Re: FM 8 to ePub?
I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won’t be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don’t want to invest any more than needed. So… some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? Thanks in advance. Tina Others have offered many suggestions that I won't duplicate, although I do concur that using Calibre is probably your best bet if you don't want to buy something like WebWorks that has direct FM support. You might consider buying a copy of How to Format Your eBook for Kindle, Nook, Smashwords, and Everything Else, by Paul Salvette. While the approach the author takes for the initial formatting (converting Word to plain HTML) isn't suitable for you, he does offer a lot of advice on how to use Calibre as well as lots of detail on the ePub format, including how to work around or resolve many formatting problems that you might run into. The book is only $3.00 in Kindle format. (I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was available in ePub from BN). Regards Keith -- Keith Soltys Senior Technical Writer Architecture TMX Group (416) 947-4397 http://www.tmx.com/ -- NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT� Le pr�sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin�s uniquement � l'usage interne du destinataire pr�vu. Si vous avez re�u le pr�sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm�diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim� de fa�on permanente de vos syst�mes; veuillez �galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8 to ePub?
InDesign actually has quite a bit of Frame-like features, including straddled heads. Not everything, of course, but a lot and more with each version. Some things, like tables, typography, graphics, and ePubs are much more advanced in InDesign. Generally, it is RTF as the middle man that lacks the functionally. I should have mentioned the excellent Mif2Go. A must have utility. Another option for converting Frame files to InDesign is DTPtool's Mif Filter for InDesign. David Creamer IDEAS Training BTW, many of our customers have used the Word RTF output to get to InDesign. You don't get to keep all Frame features, since ID doesn't have them, but it's a good start. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8 to ePub?
What is the cost of ePublisher? (It's not listed on the site.) The OP was looking for a low-cost solution. David Creamer IDEAS Training I would take WebWorks ePublisher: www.webworks.com http://www.webworks.com It works with FM 7, 8, 9, 10 with Word and DITA. After this conversion, we won't be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don't want to invest any more than needed. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8 to ePub?
At 07:28 AM 7/11/2011, David Creamer wrote: What is the cost of ePublisher? (It's not listed on the site.) The OP was looking for a low-cost solution. http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Pricing_Advantage/ ePublisher Subscription Pricing ePublisher comes with four releases each year and includes premium support. ePublisher Pro logo Designer: $795 (12 months) ePublisher Express logo Express: $295 (12 months) Hellish website to navigate, what! Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8 to ePub?
I actually knew the price. My main point is that the OP did not want to invest any more than needed--the price should have been noted. Of course, than needed is a vague term, since $795 for conversion of 10 books is certainly not that much per book. I think the RTF to InDesign method should work for basic ePub books, but I have not seen the Frame files or the type of formatting involved. I have not used the commercial ePublisher, but I really dislike renewable licenses. I know you usually get updates when renewing, but how many people are still using Frame 7? I like purchased licenses with the USER option to upgrade or not. David Creamer IDEAS Training David, Ben quoted a price in this post: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2011-November/024296.html As an ePublisher user, I have to agree that the time it saves makes it worth the cost overall. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 to ePub?
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:42:29 -0700, Tina Ricks t...@trialguides.com wrote: Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won't be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don't want to invest any more than needed. As David Creamer mentioned, the best tool for ePub, and other ebook formats, is Calibre, which is free or low cost as you choose (by donation). You can feed Calibre either HTML or RTF. The native forms produced by Frame leave a lot to be desired. Mif2Go produces both with high quality, quickly and simply. BTW, many of our customers have used the Word RTF output to get to InDesign. You don't get to keep all Frame features, since ID doesn't have them, but it's a good start. Ordinarily, Mif2Go is $295 for a *perpetual* (not one-year!) license that includes all upgrades for the first year, with upgrades and support renewable annually for $75. However, for many years we've been offering it for free to the unemployed, underemployed consultants, academics, Open Source providers, and many nonprofits. Reading your mission statement, we see: Trial Guides is a different kind of company. We don’t help the defense bar. Period. We only publish books for plaintiff’s lawyers, and we will never publish any product aimed at helping the defense, to damage a member of society who has already been damaged. Bravo! we say. So we'll be happy to provide Mif2Go free of charge, with full support, should you want it. So. some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? No. Please don't. We support Frame 6 up, even 5.5.6 in most respects. Newer versions are **not** better. --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? No, but a donation to the Calibre folks would be a nice touch. ;-) --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? Again, I'd have a look at what's available from Calibre: http://calibre-ebook.com/ All the best to you! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 to ePub?
Well, you know what they say: Cost, Quality, Time...choose any two. Nadine From: David Creamer ideasli...@ideastraining.com To: 'Nadine Murray' nadinemur...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 5:04:57 PM Subject: RE: FM 8 to ePub? I actually knew the price. My main point is that the OP did not want to invest any more than needed--the price should have been noted. Of course, than needed is a vague term, since $795 for conversion of 10 books is certainly not that much per book. I think the RTF to InDesign method should work for basic ePub books, but I have not seen the Frame files or the type of formatting involved. I have not used the commercial ePublisher, but I really dislike renewable licenses. I know you usually get updates when renewing, but how many people are still using Frame 7? I like purchased licenses with the USER option to upgrade or not. David Creamer IDEAS Training David, Ben quoted a price in this post: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2011-November/024296.html As an ePublisher user, I have to agree that the time it saves makes it worth the cost overall. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 to ePub?
On 11/4/2011 11:42 AM, Tina Ricks wrote: Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won’t be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don’t want to invest any more than needed. Tina, NOTE: I work for WebWorks. There are various options available to you. It may come down to a trade-off of time versus money. WebWorks ePublisher can create ePUB books from FrameMaker sources. It runs $795 for a renewable license (1 year of use and support). You can format the ePUB book with ePublisher's Style Designer. Other options may exist, though you might have to spend more time creating the ePUB books than would be worth the effort. Ben Allums all...@webworks.com 512-381-8885 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Re: FM 8 to ePub?
I exported some Frame 7 files out as HTML and converted to basic ePub using Calibre (donation-ware) for a client. I also tuned up the ePub in Sigil. As long as your formatting needs are basic, it worked OK. Another option is to save as RTF and use Calibre or import into InDesign. If you show import options when placing the RTF file, you can include graphics. By the way, InDesign 5.5 is a must-have upgrade for ePubs. David Creamer IDEAS Training Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won't be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don't want to invest any more than needed. So. some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 to ePub?
Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won't be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don't want to invest any more than needed. So. some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? Thanks in advance. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina @ trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 to ePub?
Hi Tina... Since ePub is an output format, it seems that you should be migrating from FM to whatever you're going to use for authoring/maintenance, then figure out how to get from that format to ePub. Unless these books are just to be published to ePub and never touched again. With ePub, it really depends on what you want to deliver (from a layout and formatting perspective) and what type of content you're working with. Certain types of content are better suited for ePub than others. The simplest option is to export each book to HTML (using any number of tools that can produce very simple HTML), then use one of the free converters available to convert the HTML into ePub. This will give you an ePub file, but may not really be be what you want to deliver. In theory you could upgrade to FM10 and RH9 (or TCS) which gives you a path to ePub, but if this is just a one-time shot, that seems like overkill. I just wrote an article for tcworld magazine that gives an overview of ePubs and related processes. It might give you some useful info .. http://www.tcworld.info/tcworld/content-strategies/article/is-there-an-epub-in-your-future/ Cheers, ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Tina Ricks wrote: Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won’t be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don’t want to invest any more than needed. So… some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? Thanks in advance. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina @ trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
