FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
Nope, I didn't SHIFT-click. Clicked on the tag and clicked CTRL-m to open
the Paragraph Designer. and I did click a bunch of other places as well -
even the usual "outside the text flow" click trick didn't work. Sigh.

Thanks Jeremy.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
info at spectrumwritingllc.com


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Cc: info at spectrumwritingllc.com
Subject: Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:25:14 -0600, "Spectrum Writing" 
 wrote:

>I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
>issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
>disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
>approach and see what happens.

As Rick correctly pointed out, this is a Mif2Go feature working
as designed.  However, if you did not SHIFT-click, it should
not be invoked.  And if you click anywhere else, it should clear
immediately.  If either of those statements are not true, it is
a *Frame* bug, not a Mif2Go bug, and indicates further breakage
in the FDK control over the UI.

I'm as frustrated as the others who have posted here recently
about the severe damage to FDK functionality introduced in 9.
We can only hope that FM 10, whenever it comes out, fixes some
of these new Frame bugs.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/



RE: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
Nope, I didn't SHIFT-click. Clicked on the tag and clicked CTRL-m to open
the Paragraph Designer. and I did click a bunch of other places as well -
even the usual "outside the text flow" click trick didn't work. Sigh.

Thanks Jeremy.

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
i...@spectrumwritingllc.com


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Cc: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Subject: Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:25:14 -0600, "Spectrum Writing" 
 wrote:

>I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
>issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
>disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
>approach and see what happens.

As Rick correctly pointed out, this is a Mif2Go feature working
as designed.  However, if you did not SHIFT-click, it should
not be invoked.  And if you click anywhere else, it should clear
immediately.  If either of those statements are not true, it is
a *Frame* bug, not a Mif2Go bug, and indicates further breakage
in the FDK control over the UI.

I'm as frustrated as the others who have posted here recently
about the severe damage to FDK functionality introduced in 9.
We can only hope that FM 10, whenever it comes out, fixes some
of these new Frame bugs.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

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FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Rick Quatro
This from the Mif2Go User Guide (may not be the latest):

4.4.2 Working with FrameMaker ObjectIDs

You can view the ObjectID of a paragraph, table, or graphic on the
FrameMaker status bar:

Paragraph: Click the paragraph, then Shift-click without moving the mouse.
The ObjectID shows on the status bar as the ParaID, a six-digit decimal
integer.

Table: Shift-click the table. The ObjectID appears on the status line as the
TableID, a six-digit decimal integer. (Use Ctrl-click to see the information
FrameMaker normally shows on the status bar for Shift-click.)

Graphic: Select the anchored frame or named reference-page frame. The
ObjectID appears on the status bar as the FrameID, a six-digit hexadecimal
number.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com






Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:25:14 -0600, "Spectrum Writing" 
 wrote:

>I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
>issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
>disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
>approach and see what happens.

As Rick correctly pointed out, this is a Mif2Go feature working
as designed.  However, if you did not SHIFT-click, it should
not be invoked.  And if you click anywhere else, it should clear
immediately.  If either of those statements are not true, it is
a *Frame* bug, not a Mif2Go bug, and indicates further breakage
in the FDK control over the UI.

I'm as frustrated as the others who have posted here recently
about the severe damage to FDK functionality introduced in 9.
We can only hope that FM 10, whenever it comes out, fixes some
of these new Frame bugs.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:25:14 -0600, "Spectrum Writing" 
 wrote:

>I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
>issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
>disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
>approach and see what happens.

As Rick correctly pointed out, this is a Mif2Go feature working
as designed.  However, if you did not SHIFT-click, it should
not be invoked.  And if you click anywhere else, it should clear
immediately.  If either of those statements are not true, it is
a *Frame* bug, not a Mif2Go bug, and indicates further breakage
in the FDK control over the UI.

I'm as frustrated as the others who have posted here recently
about the severe damage to FDK functionality introduced in 9.
We can only hope that FM 10, whenever it comes out, fixes some
of these new Frame bugs.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm not seeing the same problem with FM9, fully patched, on Windows XP. I 
have seen spurious "Frame ID <#>" messages in the past, though. You can 
report a bug here: 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform. You might want 
to specify whether you are using structured or unstructured view and list 
panels/pods that are open.

Mike Wickham




FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
approach and see what happens.

Thanks!

TVB


Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
info at spectrumwritingllc.com


-Original Message-
From: Mike Wickham [mailto:i...@mikewickham.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:13 AM
To: info at spectrumwritingllc.com; Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

I'm not seeing the same problem with FM9, fully patched, on Windows XP. I 
have seen spurious "Frame ID <#>" messages in the past, though. You can 
report a bug here: 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform. You might want

to specify whether you are using structured or unstructured view and list 
panels/pods that are open.

Mike Wickham





RE: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Rick Quatro
This from the Mif2Go User Guide (may not be the latest):

4.4.2 Working with FrameMaker ObjectIDs

You can view the ObjectID of a paragraph, table, or graphic on the
FrameMaker status bar:

Paragraph: Click the paragraph, then Shift-click without moving the mouse.
The ObjectID shows on the status bar as the ParaID, a six-digit decimal
integer.

Table: Shift-click the table. The ObjectID appears on the status line as the
TableID, a six-digit decimal integer. (Use Ctrl-click to see the information
FrameMaker normally shows on the status bar for Shift-click.)

Graphic: Select the anchored frame or named reference-page frame. The
ObjectID appears on the status bar as the FrameID, a six-digit hexadecimal
number.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com




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RE: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
I received an offlist reply from a very knowledgeable list member that this
issue might be caused by Mif2go being installed and that I might try
disabling Mif2Go to see if it makes the issue go away. So, I will try this
approach and see what happens.

Thanks!

TVB


Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
i...@spectrumwritingllc.com


-Original Message-
From: Mike Wickham [mailto:i...@mikewickham.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:13 AM
To: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com; Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

I'm not seeing the same problem with FM9, fully patched, on Windows XP. I 
have seen spurious "Frame ID <#>" messages in the past, though. You can 
report a bug here: 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform. You might want

to specify whether you are using structured or unstructured view and list 
panels/pods that are open.

Mike Wickham



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Re: FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm not seeing the same problem with FM9, fully patched, on Windows XP. I 
have seen spurious "Frame ID <#>" messages in the past, though. You can 
report a bug here: 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform. You might want 
to specify whether you are using structured or unstructured view and list 
panels/pods that are open.


Mike Wickham


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FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
Ok,



To avoid a firestorm and using the word "bug" in the title, has anyone
noticed this annoying behavior in FM 9.0 ( all patched, Win 7, 64-bit just
to cover all bases).



Click in a paragraph style. Notice that in the lower left hand corner of the
file/chapter display, you see the expected message:  Flow A: 

FM 9.0 bug/quirk/limitation?

2010-08-06 Thread Spectrum Writing
Ok,

 

To avoid a firestorm and using the word "bug" in the title, has anyone
noticed this annoying behavior in FM 9.0 ( all patched, Win 7, 64-bit just
to cover all bases).

 

Click in a paragraph style. Notice that in the lower left hand corner of the
file/chapter display, you see the expected message:  Flow A: