Re: FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-14 Thread Frank Rees

Lea,

I'm using an even older version of Frame; Frame 6.0p405 and have 
upgraded to Window 8 ( albeit without a touch screen monitor). Frame 6.0 
works fine and I have not seen any interface or other problems. O do, 
however, use the compatibility feature of Windows to launch Frame under 
Windows XP.


Frank Rees
On 5/13/2013 1:23 PM, Lea Rush wrote:

I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
fruition. :)

However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
Thoughts?

Thanks much,
Lea


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Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as ever.

I'd

really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8.


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Re: FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-14 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't think MS's new can't-call-it-Metro UI has gotten any traction
in corporate environments. If they don't want Windows 8 to be a bigger
flop than Vista, compatibility is essential.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
> decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
> like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
> fruition. :)
>
> However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
> bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
> engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
> Thoughts?
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FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Frank Rees
Lea,

I'm using an even older version of Frame; Frame 6.0p405 and have 
upgraded to Window 8 ( albeit without a touch screen monitor). Frame 6.0 
works fine and I have not seen any interface or other problems. O do, 
however, use the compatibility feature of Windows to launch Frame under 
Windows XP.

Frank Rees
On 5/13/2013 1:23 PM, Lea Rush wrote:
> I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
> decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
> like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
> fruition. :)
>
> However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
> bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
> engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks much,
> Lea
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:34 AM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
>>
>> Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as ever.
> I'd
>> really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8.
>
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FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:49 -0700, Lea Rush  wrote:

>I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
>decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
>like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
>fruition. :)

Me too.  FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate, and
I'm perfectly happy with it.  Can't stand the UI for FM9
and up, so never use those.

>However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
>bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
>engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
>Thoughts?

I think it will be several more years before you need to
worry.  XP is still around and working in many places,
and Win 7 is likely to be with us a lot longer, given
the disaster MS perpetrated with Win 8.  They really
can't make enterprise customers "upgrade" to something
as ill-conceived as 8...

I'd give FM 8 on Win 7 another five years, at least.
Not to worry.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/


Re: FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:49 -0700, Lea Rush  wrote:

>I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
>decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
>like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
>fruition. :)

Me too.  FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate, and
I'm perfectly happy with it.  Can't stand the UI for FM9
and up, so never use those.

>However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
>bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
>engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
>Thoughts?

I think it will be several more years before you need to
worry.  XP is still around and working in many places,
and Win 7 is likely to be with us a lot longer, given
the disaster MS perpetrated with Win 8.  They really
can't make enterprise customers "upgrade" to something
as ill-conceived as 8...

I'd give FM 8 on Win 7 another five years, at least.
Not to worry.  ;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
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FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't think MS's new can't-call-it-Metro UI has gotten any traction
in corporate environments. If they don't want Windows 8 to be a bigger
flop than Vista, compatibility is essential.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Lea Rush  wrote:
> I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
> decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
> like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
> fruition. :)
>
> However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
> bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
> engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
> Thoughts?


FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Lea Rush
I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
fruition. :)

However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
Thoughts?

Thanks much,
Lea

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:34 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as ever.
I'd
> really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8.


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FM8 and Win8 (Was: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only)

2013-05-13 Thread Lea Rush
I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
fruition. :)

However, I'm a little concerned about Win8. FM8 is five years old, and I'm a
bit concerned about compatibility, especially in the light of some Microsoft
engineers slipping and referring to the "legacy" desktop interface.
Thoughts?

Thanks much,
Lea

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:34 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as ever.
I'd
> really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8.


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