Re: Footnote color

2010-08-18 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Lief -

That's something I hadn't thought of trying. I'll have to see how  
insistent the client is on having a color on the footnote numbers.  
Thanks.


Pat


On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Lief Erickson wrote:

Ah, that wasn’t clear to me that he wanted just the number in the  
footnote. I thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in  
the text.


Hmmm. Yeah, I don’t know how you’d color just the number in the  
footnote itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.


I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph  
tag the color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black  
that is set to As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph  
color back to black. Be sure there is a space at the end of your  
footnote that you do not select and include when applying your  
Character tag though.


Like I said, it’s a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored  
number and black text in your footnotes.


-Lief

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number  
alone, since it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any  
changes to the paragraph format are applied to the whole footnote,  
not just the number. As far as I can see, there is no way to format  
the number differently from the text. This appears to be so whether  
you are using structured or unstructured documents. I'd be happy to  
be proved wrong...


Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net], Frame Users  
[mailto:fram...@lists.frameusers.com]

Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through  
a template or do you want each footnote to have its own color?


To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your  
Footnote tag in your template. You could also apply color on a one- 
off basis, but that creates paragraph overrides -- something most  
FrameMaker users usually want to avoid.


To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to  
create a Character tag that is the color that you want and apply  
that Character tag to the number.


-Lief

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Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat



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Footnote color

2010-08-18 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi Lief -

That's something I hadn't thought of trying. I'll have to see how  
insistent the client is on having a color on the footnote numbers.  
Thanks.

Pat


On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Lief Erickson wrote:

> Ah, that wasn?t clear to me that he wanted just the number in the  
> footnote. I thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in  
> the text.
>
> Hmmm. Yeah, I don?t know how you?d color just the number in the  
> footnote itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.
>
> I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph  
> tag the color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black  
> that is set to As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph  
> color back to black. Be sure there is a space at the end of your  
> footnote that you do not select and include when applying your  
> Character tag though.
>
> Like I said, it?s a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored  
> number and black text in your footnotes.
>
> -Lief
>
> From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
> Subject: RE: Footnote color
>
> Hello Lief
>
> The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number  
> alone, since it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any  
> changes to the paragraph format are applied to the whole footnote,  
> not just the number. As far as I can see, there is no way to format  
> the number differently from the text. This appears to be so whether  
> you are using structured or unstructured documents. I'd be happy to  
> be proved wrong...
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> Roger Shuttleworth
> Technical Documentation
> AV-BASE Systems Inc.
> 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
> London, Ontario
> N5V 3S4
> Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
> From: Lief Erickson [mailto:lief at networkinstruments.com]
> To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxenson at comcast.net], Frame Users  
> [mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com]
> Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
> Subject: RE: Footnote color
>
> Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through  
> a template or do you want each footnote to have its own color?
>
> To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your  
> Footnote tag in your template. You could also apply color on a one- 
> off basis, but that creates paragraph overrides -- something most  
> FrameMaker users usually want to avoid.
>
> To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to  
> create a Character tag that is the color that you want and apply  
> that Character tag to the number.
>
> -Lief
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- 
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Footnote color
>
> Hi -
>
> Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
> both in text and in the footnote?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pat
>
>
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RE: Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Lief Erickson
Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat


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RE: Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Lief Erickson
Ah, that wasn't clear to me that he wanted just the number in the footnote. I 
thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in the text.

Hmmm. Yeah, I don't know how you'd color just the number in the footnote 
itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.

I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph tag the 
color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black that is set to 
As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph color back to black. Be 
sure there is a space at the end of your footnote that you do not select and 
include when applying your Character tag though.

Like I said, it's a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored number and black 
text in your footnotes.

-Lief

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:fram...@lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat



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RE: Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
  _  

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:fram...@lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?
  
  To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.
  
  To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.
  
  -Lief
  
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
  To: Frame Users
  Subject: Footnote color
  
  Hi -
  
  Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
  both in text and in the footnote?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Pat
  
  
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Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Lief Erickson
Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat


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Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Lief Erickson
Ah, that wasn't clear to me that he wanted just the number in the footnote. I 
thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in the text.

Hmmm. Yeah, I don't know how you'd color just the number in the footnote 
itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.

I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph tag the 
color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black that is set to 
As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph color back to black. Be 
sure there is a space at the end of your footnote that you do not select and 
include when applying your Character tag though.

Like I said, it's a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored number and black 
text in your footnotes.

-Lief

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxenson at comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
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Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
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Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat



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Footnote color

2010-08-17 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
  _  

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxenson at comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

  To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

  To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

  -Lief

  -Original Message-
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lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
  To: Frame Users
  Subject: Footnote color

  Hi -

  Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
  both in text and in the footnote?

  Thanks.

  Pat

  
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Footnote color

2010-08-16 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?


Thanks.

Pat

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Footnote color

2010-08-16 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat