RE: Frame reference book and Word -- FrameMaker
Hi, Sue. My FrameMaker training included Adobe's Classroom in a Book ( http://tinyurl.com/b3moea ), and FrameMaker's Help system. The Classroom in a Book series is excellent because it's a tutorial that forces you to bump into functionality that you might not otherwise be aware of. It comes with files on which to perform the tasks. If you sit down and do all the exercises in the book in one day, you will become an intermediate FrameMaker user overnight. Over the years, a lot of coworkers have praised FrameMaker: The Complete Reference ( http://tinyurl.com/b3xd7z ) for solving various issues, but not as initial training. Adobe has some decent training resources on their website too, such as this video: https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p29205929/ As to converting Word documents to FrameMaker, it's generally a painful process because most Word documents are not carefully structured using paragraph and character styles. Word 2007 and FrameMaker 7 (and later versions) have good structured authoring features, so it's possible to use XML DTDs to bring structured Word content into FrameMaker. A Word -- RTF or PDF -- FrameMaker path may help bring in formatted content. If your Word content is not structured, you're probably better off just converting them to plain text, pasting it into your FrameMaker template as Body text, and then reapplying the appropriate paragraph and character styles. Thanks, --Jared Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:27:51 -0800 From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Subject: RE: Frame reference book To: Raymond, Michael mike.raym...@ingenix.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: cfe9c43fe145fe49acca41586ff1918d462...@entmbx05.invmc.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I will be watching for replies to this request. I am also rebuilding my knowledge with Frame. I could share this with my coworker, we both have been using Word for too long and now converting our files to Frame. Any easy reference books about Frame would be helpful. Thank You. Sue ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book and Word --> FrameMaker
Hi, Sue. My FrameMaker training included Adobe's Classroom in a Book ( http://tinyurl.com/b3moea ), and FrameMaker's Help system. The Classroom in a Book series is excellent because it's a tutorial that forces you to bump into functionality that you might not otherwise be aware of. It comes with files on which to perform the tasks. If you sit down and do all the exercises in the book in one day, you will become an intermediate FrameMaker user overnight. Over the years, a lot of coworkers have praised FrameMaker: The Complete Reference ( http://tinyurl.com/b3xd7z ) for solving various issues, but not as initial training. Adobe has some decent training resources on their website too, such as this video: https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p29205929/ As to converting Word documents to FrameMaker, it's generally a painful process because most Word documents are not carefully structured using paragraph and character styles. Word 2007 and FrameMaker 7 (and later versions) have good structured authoring features, so it's possible to use XML DTDs to bring structured Word content into FrameMaker. A Word --> RTF or PDF --> FrameMaker path may help bring in formatted content. If your Word content is not structured, you're probably better off just converting them to plain text, pasting it into your FrameMaker template as Body text, and then reapplying the appropriate paragraph and character styles. Thanks, --Jared Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:27:51 -0800 From: "Susan Curtzwiler" <susa...@vmc.com> Subject: RE: Frame reference book To: "Raymond, Michael" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" I will be watching for replies to this request. I am also rebuilding my knowledge with Frame. I could share this with my coworker, we both have been using Word for too long and now converting our files to Frame. Any easy reference books about Frame would be helpful. Thank You. Sue
RE: Frame reference book
Although outdated, my pick is The Masters Series: FrameMaker 6 by Thomas Neuburger, published by Twelfth Night Books. This book is both a teaching aid and a fine reference. Hopefully a newer edition is available. I use Frame 7 so this book is all I need. Regards, Barry Technical Writer Commercial Military Aviation Portland, Oregon ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book
Although outdated, my pick is "The Masters Series: FrameMaker 6" by Thomas Neuburger, published by Twelfth Night Books. This book is both a teaching aid and a fine reference. Hopefully a newer edition is available. I use Frame 7 so this book is all I need. Regards, Barry Technical Writer Commercial & Military Aviation Portland, Oregon
RE: Frame reference book
I will be watching for replies to this request. I am also rebuilding my knowledge with Frame. I could share this with my coworker, we both have been using Word for too long and now converting our files to Frame. Any easy reference books about Frame would be helpful. Thank You. Sue From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Raymond, Michael Sent: Wed 2/4/2009 1:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame reference book I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mike This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as susa...@vmc.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/susancu%40vmc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book
I will be watching for replies to this request. I am also rebuilding my knowledge with Frame. I could share this with my coworker, we both have been using Word for too long and now converting our files to Frame. Any easy reference books about Frame would be helpful. Thank You. Sue From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Raymond, Michael Sent: Wed 2/4/2009 1:47 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame reference book I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mike This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as susancu at vmc.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/susancu%40vmc.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book
I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mike This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame reference book
Hi Mike, For me, hands down, the best was Classroom in a Book, Framemaker 7.0. It took me about two weeks to go through all the unstructured lessons, and it was worth its price in gold. I highly recommend it. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Raymond, Michael Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame reference book I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mike This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as l...@astoria-pacific.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacific.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame reference book
I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? I recommend Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 8, by Sarah S. O'Keefe and Sheila A. Loring. You can get the printed book and the PDF, from www.scriptorium.com. This is an excellent book, even if you are using FrameMaker 7 and not version 8. Their previous book on 7 called Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7 is available too, but might as well get this new one instead, IMHO. My only strong disappoint is that they decided not to publish the planned (and announced) companion book on Structured FrameMaker! I hope this decision gets reversed in the future. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame reference book
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:47:43 -0600, Raymond, Michael mike.raym...@ingenix.com wrote: I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Yes. Get O'Keefe and Loring, FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference, ISBN 0-07-222361-8, published by Osborne/McGraw Hill, which has now been republished as Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7, ISBN 0970473338, at: http://www.scriptorium.com/books/fm7/index.html They also have an excellent book on Frame 8, Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 8, ISBN 9780970473349, at: http://www.scriptorium.com/books/fm8/unstrfm8.html In addition, they offer their workbooks for free on a wiki: http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book
Hi Mike, For me, hands down, the best was Classroom in a Book, Framemaker 7.0. It took me about two weeks to go through all the unstructured lessons, and it was worth its price in gold. I highly recommend it. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Raymond, Michael > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:48 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Frame reference book > > I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me > sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame > 7.1. Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. > > Mike > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as lea at astoria-pacific.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacific.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame reference book
> I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? I recommend "Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 8", by Sarah S. O'Keefe and Sheila A. Loring. You can get the printed book and the PDF, from www.scriptorium.com. This is an excellent book, even if you are using FrameMaker 7 and not version 8. Their previous book on 7 called "Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7" is available too, but might as well get this new one instead, IMHO. My only strong disappoint is that they decided not to publish the planned (and announced) companion book on Structured FrameMaker! I hope this decision gets reversed in the future. Z
Frame reference book
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:47:43 -0600, "Raymond, Michael" wrote: >I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me >sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame >7.1. Any suggestions? Yes. Get O'Keefe and Loring, "FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference", ISBN 0-07-222361-8, published by Osborne/McGraw Hill, which has now been republished as "Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7", ISBN 0970473338, at: http://www.scriptorium.com/books/fm7/index.html They also have an excellent book on Frame 8, "Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 8", ISBN 9780970473349, at: http://www.scriptorium.com/books/fm8/unstrfm8.html In addition, they offer their workbooks for free on a wiki: http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Frame reference book
I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have Frame 7.1. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Mike This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
