Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham

Rick,


Zip and send me a sample document so I can see what you see. Thanks.


Will do.

Mike Wickham


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Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Mike,

Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made 
it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same 
problem with FM8?


1. Click in a sample body text paragraph.

2. In the Paragraph Designer, set alignment to justified. Extra space is 
added between words to make the text line reach the right-hand margin. It 
works as expected.


3. Now, in the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, check the Allow 
Automatic Letter Spacing checkbox. Some lines in the paragraph jump back 
from the right-hand margin, and are no longer justified! (You may have to 
change your zoom level to see it, and it's more obvious in narrow columns 
than wide ones.) FM applies letter spacing to words on some lines, and 
those are the lines that lose justification.


Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, 
only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?


Mike Wickham
FrameMaker 8.0p236 (trial version)
Windows XP Pro

P.S. I have DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On in maker.ini, but the problem 
exists whether it's on or off. PDFs match what I see on screen.


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Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, 
only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?


 Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP.

Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is important enough to me 
that I'm going to have to hold off on buying the FM8 upgrade until then.


Mike Wickham


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FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Rick,

> Zip and send me a sample document so I can see what you see. Thanks.

Will do.

Mike Wickham





FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Mike,

Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

>I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made 
>it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same 
>problem with FM8?
>
> 1. Click in a sample body text paragraph.
>
> 2. In the Paragraph Designer, set alignment to justified. Extra space is 
> added between words to make the text line reach the right-hand margin. It 
> works as expected.
>
> 3. Now, in the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, check the Allow 
> Automatic Letter Spacing checkbox. Some lines in the paragraph jump back 
> from the right-hand margin, and are no longer justified! (You may have to 
> change your zoom level to see it, and it's more obvious in narrow columns 
> than wide ones.) FM applies letter spacing to words on some lines, and 
> those are the lines that lose justification.
>
> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, 
> only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?
>
> Mike Wickham
> FrameMaker 8.0p236 (trial version)
> Windows XP Pro
>
> P.S. I have DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On in maker.ini, but the problem 
> exists whether it's on or off. PDFs match what I see on screen.




FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
>> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, 
>> only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?

 > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP.

Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is important enough to me 
that I'm going to have to hold off on buying the FM8 upgrade until then.

Mike Wickham





FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Mike Wickham  wrote:
> >> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used
> to work together. Now, 
> >> only one or the other works. Is anyone else
> seeing this?
> 
>  > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8
> on Windows XP.
> 
> Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is
> important enough to me 
> that I'm going to have to hold off on buying the FM8
> upgrade until then.

This bug would seem to indicate that there's still
lots of spaghettic code remaining in FM8. Given the
short time between Beta testing and the release date,
it seems likely that, even if this bug had been
discovered during Beta testing, it would not have been
fixed in the released version. 

Let us hope this bug is not an omen that FM8 will
repeat the FM5.5 fisaco (the first full release
produced by Adobe). That version had more bugs than a
termite-riddled house.




FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-08 Thread Mike Wickham
I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made 
it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same 
problem with FM8?


1. Click in a sample body text paragraph.

2. In the Paragraph Designer, set alignment to justified. Extra space is 
added between words to make the text line reach the right-hand margin. It 
works as expected.


3. Now, in the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, check the Allow 
Automatic Letter Spacing checkbox. Some lines in the paragraph jump back 
from the right-hand margin, and are no longer justified! (You may have to 
change your zoom level to see it, and it's more obvious in narrow columns 
than wide ones.) FM applies letter spacing to words on some lines, and those 
are the lines that lose justification.


Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, only 
one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?


Mike Wickham
FrameMaker 8.0p236 (trial version)
Windows XP Pro

P.S. I have DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On in maker.ini, but the problem 
exists whether it's on or off. PDFs match what I see on screen.




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FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-08 Thread Mike Wickham
I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made 
it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same 
problem with FM8?

1. Click in a sample body text paragraph.

2. In the Paragraph Designer, set alignment to justified. Extra space is 
added between words to make the text line reach the right-hand margin. It 
works as expected.

3. Now, in the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, check the Allow 
Automatic Letter Spacing checkbox. Some lines in the paragraph jump back 
from the right-hand margin, and are no longer justified! (You may have to 
change your zoom level to see it, and it's more obvious in narrow columns 
than wide ones.) FM applies letter spacing to words on some lines, and those 
are the lines that lose justification.

Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, only 
one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this?

Mike Wickham
FrameMaker 8.0p236 (trial version)
Windows XP Pro

P.S. I have DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On in maker.ini, but the problem 
exists whether it's on or off. PDFs match what I see on screen.