Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10)
Thanks, Monique! Yes, I found that approach mentioned in my archives for this list, and tried it. Did improve things a bit – the menu is more readable and the icons show up. Although still very small for both. I just have to be very careful with my mouse positioning when I click, but I am not using FM12 much at all, so not an issue. Also, I am using a Logitech mouse (an MX-3 Master) on that Mac that is way better than the trackpad (I like multiple buttons – not used to multiple finger pad access!). Though, I’ll just have to display the Mac on my large 27” display (it is 4K, so still will have small menus) to make things readable to my aging eyes. Z Monique Semp wrote: * My external monitor isn't a retina display, but it's a high-res (2560x1600) Dell that seems to have needed similar settings. I'm running Windows via Parallels on my 2017 MacBook Pro, and the relevant setting in my shortcut menu for starting FrameMaker (Frame 2015 -- I haven't used it in a while, but it's still installed) is in the Compatibility tab of the shortcut properties. I've selected "Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: System". That seems to have worked well for FrameMaker and a few other Windows programs that otherwise had impossibly small menu bar/icons/etc. HTH, -Monique On 8/30/20 12:12 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Hi, all. I am moving to another laptop - a Macbook Pro (older generation - not the last two hardware versions) that has a retina display and is much faster than this 2-core Lenovo I am migrating from. This is a quad-core Intel I-7 and quite faster than the Lenovo, even though it is old. My son's old laptop, recently fully refurbished by Apple - new *everything* in it for very little cost, and in beautiful condition! Since it is a Macbook, I am running Parallels (version 16) with a clean install of Windows 10 Pro, to get access to my Windows applications. The Windows applications have been running fine for a while, so today, I moved FrameMaker 12 to it (was reminded by the recent discussion on licenses)! The installation went smoothly - no licensing hiccups luckil, and I have installed all four updates too. So, it is now at 12.0.4 ... I selected large, color icons to start. However, when I start FM, I get a tiny, almost impossible to read, menu bar, and the icons do not show at all. I have tried changing to grayscale (carefully picking the menu item!) and small icons without success. The pop-up menus are a bit small too, but usable. The Mac, of course, has a 2800 x 1800 retina resolution, but Parallels runs Windows 10 with a font mag of 300% and all other Windows applications seem to run fine. Is there anybody else running FM under Parallels without these problems? Is there some setting (perhaps in the INI file for FM12) that could correct for this? Thanks! Z ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10)
My external monitor isn't a retina display, but it's a high-res (2560x1600) Dell that seems to have needed similar settings. I'm running Windows via Parallels on my 2017 MacBook Pro, and the relevant setting in my shortcut menu for starting FrameMaker (Frame 2015 -- I haven't used it in a while, but it's still installed) is in the Compatibility tab of the shortcut properties. I've selected "Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: System". That seems to have worked well for FrameMaker and a few other Windows programs that otherwise had impossibly small menu bar/icons/etc. HTH, -Monique On 8/30/20 12:12 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Hi, all. I am moving to another laptop - a Macbook Pro (older generation - not the last t wo hardware versions) that has a retina display and is much faster than this 2-c ore Lenovo I am migrating from. This is a quad-core Intel I-7 and quite faster than the Lenovo, even though it i s old. My son's old laptop, recently fully refurbished by Apple - new *everythin g* in it for very little cost, and in beautiful condition! Since it is a Macbook, I am running Parallels (version 16) with a clean install of Windows 10 Pro, to get access to my Windows applications. The Windows applications have been running fine for a while, so today, I moved F rameMaker 12 to it (was reminded by the recent discussion on licenses)! The installation went smoothly - no licensing hiccups luckil, and I have install ed all four updates too. So, it is now at 12.0.4 ... I selected large, color icons to start. However, when I start FM, I get a tiny, almost impossible to read, menu bar, and the icons do not show at all. I have tr ied changing to grayscale (carefully picking the menu item!) and small icons wit hout success. The pop-up menus are a bit small too, but usable. The Mac, of course, has a 2800 x 1800 retina resolution, but Parallels runs Wind ows 10 with a font mag of 300% and all other Windows applications seem to run fi ne. Is there anybody else running FM under Parallels without these problems? Is ther e some setting (perhaps in the INI file for FM12) that could correct for this? Thanks! Z ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [1]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [2]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [3]http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.co m/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [4]http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers -frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [5]listad...@frameusers.com References 1. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 2. http://www.frameusers.com/ 3. http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ 4. http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com 5. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10)
Thanks! I will give that a try … Z From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:55 PM To: Framers Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain Subject: Re: FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10) Hi Z, i think the solution is to run Parallels with Graphics setting ’scaled’ in stead of 'Best for Retina'. The problem is that the FM user interface is not prepared for high-resolution display. This was only resolved by the Adobe development team with version FM 2017. Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim Hooghwinkel Op 30 aug. 2020, om 22:02 heeft framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com> het volgende geschreven: Is there anybody else running FM under Parallels without these problems? Is there some setting (perhaps in the INI file for FM12) that could correct for this? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10)
Hi Z, i think the solution is to run Parallels with Graphics setting ’scaled’ in stead of 'Best for Retina'. The problem is that the FM user interface is not prepared for high-resolution display. This was only resolved by the Adobe development team with version FM 2017. Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim Hooghwinkel > Op 30 aug. 2020, om 22:02 heeft framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com het > volgende geschreven: > > Is there anybody else running FM under Parallels without these problems? Is > there some setting (perhaps in the INI file for FM12) that could correct for > this? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 12 and Parallels on a Mac (running Windows 10)
Hi, all. I am moving to another laptop - a Macbook Pro (older generation - not the last two hardware versions) that has a retina display and is much faster than this 2-core Lenovo I am migrating from. This is a quad-core Intel I-7 and quite faster than the Lenovo, even though it is old. My son's old laptop, recently fully refurbished by Apple - new *everything* in it for very little cost, and in beautiful condition! Since it is a Macbook, I am running Parallels (version 16) with a clean install of Windows 10 Pro, to get access to my Windows applications. The Windows applications have been running fine for a while, so today, I moved FrameMaker 12 to it (was reminded by the recent discussion on licenses)! The installation went smoothly - no licensing hiccups luckil, and I have installed all four updates too. So, it is now at 12.0.4 ... I selected large, color icons to start. However, when I start FM, I get a tiny, almost impossible to read, menu bar, and the icons do not show at all. I have tried changing to grayscale (carefully picking the menu item!) and small icons without success. The pop-up menus are a bit small too, but usable. The Mac, of course, has a 2800 x 1800 retina resolution, but Parallels runs Windows 10 with a font mag of 300% and all other Windows applications seem to run fine. Is there anybody else running FM under Parallels without these problems? Is there some setting (perhaps in the INI file for FM12) that could correct for this? Thanks! Z ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] [SPAM-heur] Re: FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue
Thank you for the info, Rick. A bit of a surprise for us, but good to know moving forward. Matt -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 12:37 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: [SPAM-heur] Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue You can't open a FrameMaker file created with a later version with an earlier version of FrameMaker. In other words, if you have FrameMaker 12, you can't open FrameMaker 2019 files. If you are going to work in a mixed environment, you can save the files as MIF (Maker Interchange File) and those will open in the earlier version. Or, take a look at my ConvertDocs script: http://www.frameexpert.com/store Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Harrington, Matthew (Contractor) Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue Hi Framers, A quick question if I may. I am on Adobe FrameMaker 12 and a new colleague was recently given a laptop with Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release on it. However, when I try to open his FrameMaker files on my FrameMaker 12 I receive the following error. [cid:image001.jpg@01D4F9D0.1B160A10] Conversely, he has the same issue when trying to update the book since all of the files were created with FrameMaker 12. Are Adobe FrameMaker 12 and the Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release that incompatible? In other versions I have worked with (e.g., 7.0 > 9.0) I don't remember encountering this problem. Thank you, Matt H. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6632 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20 190423/9e5c31f7/attachment.jpg> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue
You can't open a FrameMaker file created with a later version with an earlier version of FrameMaker. In other words, if you have FrameMaker 12, you can't open FrameMaker 2019 files. If you are going to work in a mixed environment, you can save the files as MIF (Maker Interchange File) and those will open in the earlier version. Or, take a look at my ConvertDocs script: http://www.frameexpert.com/store Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Harrington, Matthew (Contractor) Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue Hi Framers, A quick question if I may. I am on Adobe FrameMaker 12 and a new colleague was recently given a laptop with Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release on it. However, when I try to open his FrameMaker files on my FrameMaker 12 I receive the following error. [cid:image001.jpg@01D4F9D0.1B160A10] Conversely, he has the same issue when trying to update the book since all of the files were created with FrameMaker 12. Are Adobe FrameMaker 12 and the Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release that incompatible? In other versions I have worked with (e.g., 7.0 > 9.0) I don't remember encountering this problem. Thank you, Matt H. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6632 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20 190423/9e5c31f7/attachment.jpg> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 12 > FrameMaker 2019 release file issue
Hi Framers, A quick question if I may. I am on Adobe FrameMaker 12 and a new colleague was recently given a laptop with Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release on it. However, when I try to open his FrameMaker files on my FrameMaker 12 I receive the following error. [cid:image001.jpg@01D4F9D0.1B160A10] Conversely, he has the same issue when trying to update the book since all of the files were created with FrameMaker 12. Are Adobe FrameMaker 12 and the Adobe FrameMaker 2019 release that incompatible? In other versions I have worked with (e.g., 7.0 > 9.0) I don't remember encountering this problem. Thank you, Matt H. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6632 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20190423/9e5c31f7/attachment.jpg> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Glossary popups FrameMaker 12 to Responsive HTML
Hi all - I'm using FrameMaker 12 unstructured. In a document that will be published as Responsive HTML, I need the user to be able to point (or click) at part of a screenshot and a popup opens, explaining that feature. I've tried using the marker types Glossary and GlossaryTerm, and they work fine as long as both are in text. But when I create a text frame on top of the screenshot in the anchored frame and put the marker in the text frame, it's a no-go. I'm guessing it works when both are in the text because they're in the same flow (A:). But FrameMaker won't let me tag the text frame on the screenshot A and if I create a text frame outside the anchored frame and tag it A, FrameMaker won't let me drag it into the frame. So long story short, is there a way to get this work? Should I use something other than Glossary markers? I've noticed that the Popup marker type is available but appears to do nothing and is no longer mentioned in FrameMaker Help. Explore complimentary learning opportunities<http://corporate1.morningstar.com/Morningstar-Direct-Training/> Pat Christenson Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc. pat.christen...@morningstar.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] import xml into FrameMaker 12?
Do they actually care about FrameMaker? If they're not going to do a one-time import and going forward update the content in structured FrameMaker, it might be the wrong tool. What kind of XML files? DITA? On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Studio Smalbro <stu...@smalbro.dk> wrote: > I have a customer asking me to convert and publish xml files into FrameMaker > 12. I usually do a lot of stuff in FrameMaker Unstructured (I have the > Technical Communication Suites), but my knowledge of structured publish is > less solid. I would like to be able to help my customer out on this. Is > there a good introduction as to how to get started using structured > FrameMaker? Or can anybody offer advice as to how to handle the xml files. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] import xml into FrameMaker 12?
Thanks Lin. DITA-FMx can help you get FM files from DITA XML, although it's really intended as a replacement for the built-in DITA support in FM. Bjørn .. when you say "convert and publish xml files into FM 12," what do you mean? Does your client want to convert the XML files into FM files and stop using the XML files as the source? Or do they want to use FM as the authoring tool for the XML files? (Or something else?) In order to open/edit an XML file in FM you need a structured application designed specifically for the model in the XML files. If these XML files are a common standard (DITA, DocBook, ??), you can likely use one of the available structure applications to open those files. If not, then you'd first need to develop the structure application. Once you have a structure application that lets you open the files, you can .. - edit and save back to the original XML model (basically letting you edit the XML files in FM), - or you can save those files to an FM binary file (letting you author in the structured FM interface, but not using the XML files any more), - or you can take those structured FM files and strip the "structure" from them (resulting in unstructured FM files) Depending on the end goal, those are the basic processes. So the first thing you want to do is to clarify the end goal, and to figure out what XML model is used by the files. If it's DITA (or DocBook), you're in good shape. If something else, you've got a bit of effort (or cost) involved to develop a structure application. Here's the docs on structure application development (see the like-named section) .. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker.html If you'd like someone to make the structure application for you, I'd be happy to help .. contact me off-list. Cheers, ...scott On 5/26/16 5:21 AM, Lin Sims wrote: DITA-FMx is an excellent plugin that will let you convert the XML into structured Frame. Scott is on the list and is very, very helpful. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Studio Smalbro <stu...@smalbro.dk> wrote: I have a customer asking me to convert and publish xml files into FrameMaker 12. I usually do a lot of stuff in FrameMaker Unstructured (I have the Technical Communication Suites), but my knowledge of structured publish is less solid. I would like to be able to help my customer out on this. Is there a good introduction as to how to get started using structured FrameMaker? Or can anybody offer advice as to how to handle the xml files. Best regards Bjørn ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] import xml into FrameMaker 12?
DITA-FMx is an excellent plugin that will let you convert the XML into structured Frame. Scott is on the list and is very, very helpful. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Studio Smalbro <stu...@smalbro.dk> wrote: > I have a customer asking me to convert and publish xml files into > FrameMaker 12. I usually do a lot of stuff in FrameMaker Unstructured (I > have the Technical Communication Suites), but my knowledge of structured > publish is less solid. I would like to be able to help my customer out on > this. Is there a good introduction as to how to get started using > structured FrameMaker? Or can anybody offer advice as to how to handle the > xml files. > > Best regards > Bjørn > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] import xml into FrameMaker 12?
I have a customer asking me to convert and publish xml files into FrameMaker 12. I usually do a lot of stuff in FrameMaker Unstructured (I have the Technical Communication Suites), but my knowledge of structured publish is less solid. I would like to be able to help my customer out on this. Is there a good introduction as to how to get started using structured FrameMaker? Or can anybody offer advice as to how to handle the xml files. Best regards Bjørn ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Master Page behavior (FrameMaker 12)
Running FrameMaker 12 on Windows. In a right/left document, when we add content on the last page that runs over and creates a new page, the new page matches the layout of the previous page, instead of following the right/left convention. When you go to Master Pages and return to Body Pages, you get the message about some pages having overrides and it's always the last page. Choosing to Remove Overrides (or using Format/Page Layout/Master Page Usage) fixes it for the one instance, but the next time you add more content, it's the same problem. Any help is appreciated. Explore complimentary learning opportunities<http://corporate1.morningstar.com/Morningstar-Direct-Training/> Pat Christenson Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc. pat.christen...@morningstar.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12
I believe in MIF you could simply replace with . On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Craig, Alison <acr...@bkultrasound.com> wrote: > Couldn't this be done in the MIF file with Find/Replace? > > I'm sure there's someone out there with a lot more MIF experience than I have > who could speak to this option? (I have done a few large "fixes" in the MIF > for other issues but only after a Frame expert from this list has offered > guidance on how to go about it.) > > Alison > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On > Behalf Of Julie A Beste-Walz > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 10:12 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12 > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone has a solution for the following scenario. > I have 3 different conditional text tags in one of my files. > One of these conditional text tags was created and applied inadvertently and > should really be applied as one of the other 2 conditional text tags. > For Example this file contains Conditional Text A, Conditional Text B, and > Conditional Text C. > The information tagged as Conditional Text C should really be applied and > only tagged as Conditional Text B so that I can delete the Conditional Text > tag, Conditional Text C. > Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to Edit the conditional text tag but > that didn't work. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12
Couldn't this be done in the MIF file with Find/Replace? I'm sure there's someone out there with a lot more MIF experience than I have who could speak to this option? (I have done a few large "fixes" in the MIF for other issues but only after a Frame expert from this list has offered guidance on how to go about it.) Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Julie A Beste-Walz Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 10:12 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12 Hello, I was wondering if anyone has a solution for the following scenario. I have 3 different conditional text tags in one of my files. One of these conditional text tags was created and applied inadvertently and should really be applied as one of the other 2 conditional text tags. For Example this file contains Conditional Text A, Conditional Text B, and Conditional Text C. The information tagged as Conditional Text C should really be applied and only tagged as Conditional Text B so that I can delete the Conditional Text tag, Conditional Text C. Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to Edit the conditional text tag but that didn't work. Julie Beste-Walz Licensing Analyst ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12
Hi Julie, I think this calls for scripting, as there is no way to redefine the current conditional tags to an already existing one. the scripting environment is included in FM since version 10. If there are enough tags it might be worth your time or budget to either do the scripting yourself or get an experienced scripter to do it for you. I am too busy but you can ask Rick Quatro. He knows his way around the FM scripting jungle. I am guessing he might respond pretty quickly to this message. Good luck Jang > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:11:52 -0400 > From: Julie A Beste-Walz <<beste-wa...@dteenergy.com>> > To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12 > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone has a solution for the following scenario. > I have 3 different conditional text tags in one of my files. > One of these conditional text tags was created and applied > inadvertently and should really be applied as one of the other 2 conditional > text tags. > For Example this file contains Conditional Text A, Conditional Text B, and > Conditional Text C. > The information tagged as Conditional Text C should really be applied and > only tagged as Conditional Text B so > that I can delete the Conditional Text tag, Conditional Text C. > Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to Edit the conditional text tag but > that didn't work. > > Julie Beste-Walz > Licensing Analyst > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12
Find some text tagged with Condition B. Edit > Copy Special > Conditional Text Settings Then Edit > Find Change; Select Conditional Text from the Find list, move Condition C into the "In" window, select By Pasting in the To list, then Find & Change All. Or Find, then Change, rinse and repeat if you want to be sure you're changing the right thing. On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Julie A Beste-Walz < beste-wa...@dteenergy.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone has a solution for the following scenario. > I have 3 different conditional text tags in one of my files. > One of these conditional text tags was created and applied > inadvertently and should really be applied as one of the other 2 > conditional text tags. > For Example this file contains Conditional Text A, Conditional Text B, and > Conditional Text C. > The information tagged as Conditional Text C should really be applied and > only tagged as Conditional Text B so > that I can delete the Conditional Text tag, Conditional Text C. > Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to Edit the conditional text tag > but that didn't work. > > Julie Beste-Walz > Licensing Analyst > > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Conditional Text Question FrameMaker 12
Hello, I was wondering if anyone has a solution for the following scenario. I have 3 different conditional text tags in one of my files. One of these conditional text tags was created and applied inadvertently and should really be applied as one of the other 2 conditional text tags. For Example this file contains Conditional Text A, Conditional Text B, and Conditional Text C. The information tagged as Conditional Text C should really be applied and only tagged as Conditional Text B so that I can delete the Conditional Text tag, Conditional Text C. Is there an easy way to do this? I tried to Edit the conditional text tag but that didn't work. Julie Beste-Walz Licensing Analyst ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12: "Save as" grayed out
Hi Klaus Thank you for your reply. I've tested this again and the problem seems to occur with files which are on Dropbox. I checked Edit > Preferences > Global > Dropbox, but I didn't find any special settings there. So yes, I think we can call this a bug. My workaround is now to save the file in a non-Dropbox folder and then move it to Dropbox. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12: "Save as" grayed out
On 17 Apr 2016 at 19:00, Yves Barbion wrote: > Hi group > > I see that the "Save as" menu command is grayed out in FrameMaker 12 > (12.0.4.445, all patched up), even when I reopen and change the file. Yves, in my environment (W7, x64) FM-12.0.4.445 behaves as expected. Have tested with Read-only files also. A locked file however shows only a limited menu set and no save at all. Is it a document form a nework and connection is down now? Does it happen with other files also? Try deleting %appdata%\Adobe\FrameMaker\12 before restarting FM. Save maker.ini first in case you have special settings in maker.ini and redo these one by one later. No other ideas here. Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 12: "Save as" grayed out
Hi group I see that the "Save as" menu command is grayed out in FrameMaker 12 (12.0.4.445, all patched up), even when I reopen and change the file. Is this a known Fm12 bug? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FrameMaker 12 - RoboHelp 11 - Graphics Conversion shows bad results
We are using TCS 5 and encounter blurry graphics when we convert a FrameMaker book to HTML Help. All graphics are referenced in the FrameMaker files and are mainly Tiffs with 632x475 px at 200 dpi. Due to our layout we want to become the graphics in the on-line help enlarged to 200 %. It seems that RoboHelp converts the graphics in two stages, in the first stage the graphics will be resized to 96 dpi, 303x228 px. In the second stage this 96 dpi graphic is then scaled to 200% which results in bad image quality. Is there any way to change this conversion behaviour? If I resize such a tiff in Photoshop I get perfect quality, but it is a one stage conversion. BTW: We tested RoboHelp 2015 too, with the same result. Best Regards - Thomas Zeisig ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
FrameMaker 12 XSLT Version
Hello Framers, When using XSLT on XML import/export in FrameMaker, can I use XSLT 2.0 or is the processor limited to 1.0? Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 XSLT Version
Rick,According to the Using FrameMaker 12, page 481:FrameMaker includes an XSLT processor that allows you to associate an XSLT file with an XML structure application or XML document, and apply the transformations defined in that document when importing from or exporting to XML. FrameMaker supports W3C XSLT 1.0 recommendations. You can Upgrade to Saxon 2.0 processor by editing the maker.ini file. On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:48 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: !--#yiv6394661982 _filtered #yiv6394661982 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6394661982 {font-family:Cambria Math;panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6394661982 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6394661982 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv6394661982 #yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982MsoNormal, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982MsoNormal, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv6394661982 a:link, #yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6394661982 a:visited, #yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982MsoAcetate, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982MsoAcetate, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;}#yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982msonormal, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982msonormal, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982msochpdefault, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982msochpdefault, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982msochpdefault {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982msohyperlink {}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982emailstyle17 {}#yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982msonormal1, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982msonormal1, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982msonormal1 {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982msohyperlink1 {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982emailstyle171 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv6394661982 p.yiv6394661982msochpdefault1, #yiv6394661982 li.yiv6394661982msochpdefault1, #yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982msochpdefault1 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982EmailStyle27 {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv6394661982 span.yiv6394661982BalloonTextChar {font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;}#yiv6394661982 .yiv6394661982MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv6394661982 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv6394661982 div.yiv6394661982WordSection1 {}--Hello Framers, When using XSLT on XML import/export in FrameMaker, can I use XSLT 2.0 or is the processor limited to 1.0? Thanks. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 XSLT Version
Rick,I missed this other reference: The output is created using a parser installed on the machine and registered with FrameMaker through maker.ini settings. XALAN and SAXON are installed by default on your machine with FrameMaker. XALAN supports XSLT 1.0 and SAXON supports XSLT 2.0. Both XALAN and SAXON are JAXP compliant. Since Saxon is included, it just might be possible to use XSLT 1.0 and/or 2,0. YMMV On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:58 AM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote: Rick,According to the Using FrameMaker 12, page 481:FrameMaker includes an XSLT processor that allows you to associate an XSLT file with an XML structure application or XML document, and apply the transformations defined in that document when importing from or exporting to XML. FrameMaker supports W3C XSLT 1.0 recommendations. You can Upgrade to Saxon 2.0 processor by editing the maker.ini file. On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:48 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: #yiv1634228829 #yiv1634228829 -- filtered {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv1634228829 filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv1634228829 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1634228829 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829MsoNormal, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829MsoNormal, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 a:link, #yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1634228829 a:visited, #yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829MsoAcetate, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829MsoAcetate, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829msonormal, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829msonormal, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829msochpdefault, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829msochpdefault, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829msochpdefault {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829msohyperlink {}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829emailstyle17 {}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829msonormal1, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829msonormal1, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829msonormal1 {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829msohyperlink1 {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829emailstyle171 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1634228829 p.yiv1634228829msochpdefault1, #yiv1634228829 li.yiv1634228829msochpdefault1, #yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829msochpdefault1 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829EmailStyle27 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1634228829 span.yiv1634228829BalloonTextChar {}#yiv1634228829 .yiv1634228829MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv1634228829 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1634228829 div.yiv1634228829WordSection1 {}#yiv1634228829 Hello Framers, When using XSLT on XML import/export in FrameMaker, can I use XSLT 2.0 or is the processor limited to 1.0? Thanks. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can FrameMaker 12 run in Linux?
Ah, darn. Thanks for the info. Z -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:15 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Framers Subject: Re: Can FrameMaker 12 run in Linux? Doesn't look like it, which doesn't surprise me: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=framemakersearch=app: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search/?name=adobe+acrobatsearch=app On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Has anyone successfully run FrameMaker 12 on any version/distribution of Linux? If so, which version and what did you do to make it possible? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can FrameMaker 12 run in Linux?
Doesn't look like it, which doesn't surprise me: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=framemakersearch=app: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search/?name=adobe+acrobatsearch=app On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Has anyone successfully run FrameMaker 12 on any version/distribution of Linux? If so, which version and what did you do to make it possible? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Can FrameMaker 12 run in Linux?
Not having received any answers at all, I will generalize this question a bit. :) Has anyone successfully run FrameMaker 12 on any version/distribution of Linux? If so, which version and what did you do to make it possible? Please and Thanks! Z From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 12:13 AM Cc: Framers Subject: Can FrameMaker 12 run under Wine (on Ubuntu distribution of Linux)? Has anyone successfully done the above? i.e., installed FrameMaker and Acrobat using Wine under Ubuntu? And made it work pretty much cleanly? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. - -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker documentation Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
If you are upgrading FM from ver. 9 or earlier, there's an excellent course on Lynda.com. It's on FM10, which is where the user interface changed. Tom Beiswenger Manager, technical training documentation Bucher Emhart Glass Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Steve Madison madis...@princecastle.com wrote: In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. - -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker documentation Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tom.beiswenger%40emhartglass.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides
Of course there's always the bible of FM - Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FM 11 updated by Matt Sullivan - that's my go-to reference -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Madison Sent: December-19-14 9:23 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker 12 - Getting Started guides In follow up to Klaus' comments about FM Getting Started guides, does anyone have a recommendation on a decent learning resource on getting started with FM12? - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender via reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. - -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:16 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker documentation Can somebody please refresh my memory? In http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsS92hJ5x5UQsLn7ee6XCQTbI9EILCQTbI9EzDzqrBS4Qmn3qdNP9EVuhsvsdGWxaBok1iQpgJZJFc_-ndHhB2TSSAP_VsTVEVgZAQsIfZvCbCzBxVDHTbFFLKsephoohVqWdAklrCzB7BgY-F6lK1FJ4SMrLOtXTLuZXTdTdw0Adr8vRyu8lITzGKBvyUqeu1NJSeG_6xsxlK5LE2zVkDjDoWHXtfzjBPrXaa9InzGLzuBvyq84aSrl-4ZDaI3qr1J_z9QCLAEhIV I say: « Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's my impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe. User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box only contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your PC to the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the chaper- page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 has 660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. Some special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages or customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM. » What number I have to put in place of the ??? Are my statements in error generally? Thanks Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: http://cp.mcafee.com/d/k-Kr6xEg6jqb2bNEVuKessdTdFKnojhpvdFKnojh7f6QTbI9EIK6QrzCjhOYyU-UrlR2laME2BEOxrXrip_YKrmza5LJJ9D_OVLPhOxX9EVovW_cnd7b3PfnKnjjvsUsOyMMzORQr8EGTd7afaxVZicHs3jqpJwTvAXTLuZXTKrKrasxHp3-IjdKNRnUQbAaJMJZ0kvaAWsX7lvrFYqsKrvphhdyYtlYrQHYjh0xmPqLMDIVlwrjod_fNS ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as madis...@princecastle.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Q91MOrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrpdI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo0c-l9QVSeG-TjUQVv1dnoplqsGMFzItl-dclR2laMEfoKJ6kbvrqjf_BPrItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3rOLF2SS0kJf5 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://cp.mcafee.com/d/avndz8Qrhohud7bRNPzxKVJdOX2qbbVJdOX2q8VUSCVtxd5BMSzssOqenAn7T3qKEiFm50kJ6kbvrqjf_BPqQpgJZJFc_-nd-qekfpd7b3_nVyVEVoupWZOWqrXD3Ckm64umKzp55mVEVhVkffGhBrwqrodI6XYDuZXTLuZPtPo09SeG-TjUQVv3rItl-d2V2Hsbvg57OFeDeNRnSWv6DbCTSkkjoL7lv6Za_4Qg8lISHY9Xelo6QS3uXQ5uvyA for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation
From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com My guess is they chose Responsive HTML over WebHelp for the same reason they dropped topics, used larger type and screen shots, added page breaks, and posted a URL to pages not visible to the public. /snorts/ *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines. Sometimes the chain of machines was a block long. They have also considered issuing tablets with their machines for the operators to use. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Norton Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Thanks for the links Maxwell. The PDF looks interesting. As for the HTML, I understand Responsive HTML is cool and all that and has some applications, but I am trying to come up with a scenario where I would look up something in FrameMaker Help on my phone. If I need to research something in FrameMaker Help, I think I would open a browser in one of my two desktop monitors instead of trying to read it on a tiny phone screen (Galaxy S3). Is this capability something requested by other Frame users or is Adobe simply showing that it can be done via Frame? Michael Norton | Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
I think Google safety glasses would be a better idea. That way, you kill two birds with one stone: information and safety. =D Oh, and a third benefit: hands free. Nadine From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:28 PM Subject: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped #yiv1144396397 #yiv1144396397 -- _filtered #yiv1144396397 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1144396397 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1144396397 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv1144396397 #yiv1144396397 p.yiv1144396397MsoNormal, #yiv1144396397 li.yiv1144396397MsoNormal, #yiv1144396397 div.yiv1144396397MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1144396397 h1 {margin-top:24.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:14.0pt;color:#365F91;}#yiv1144396397 h2 {margin-top:10.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:13.0pt;color:#4F81BD;}#yiv1144396397 a:link, #yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1144396397 a:visited, #yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1144396397 p.yiv1144396397MsoAcetate, #yiv1144396397 li.yiv1144396397MsoAcetate, #yiv1144396397 div.yiv1144396397MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397Heading1Char {color:#365F91;font-weight:bold;}#yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397Heading2Char {color:#4F81BD;font-weight:bold;}#yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397BalloonTextChar {}#yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397EmailStyle21 {color:windowtext;}#yiv1144396397 span.yiv1144396397EmailStyle22 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv1144396397 .yiv1144396397MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv1144396397 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1144396397 div.yiv1144396397WordSection1 {}#yiv1144396397 I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines. Sometimes the chain of machines was a block long. They have also considered issuing tablets with their machines for the operators to use. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Norton Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Thanks for the links Maxwell. The PDF looks interesting. As for the HTML, I understand Responsive HTML is cool and all that and has some applications, but I am trying to come up with a scenario where I would look up something in FrameMaker Help on my phone. If I need to research something in FrameMaker Help, I think I would open a browser in one of my two desktop monitors instead of trying to read it on a tiny phone screen (Galaxy S3). Is this capability something requested by other Frame users or is Adobe simply showing that it can be done via Frame? …….…….…….…….…….…….…… Michael Norton | Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
Nobody walks around while using FrameMaker. My guess is they chose Responsive HTML over WebHelp for the same reason they dropped topics, used larger type and screen shots, added page breaks, and posted a URL to pages not visible to the public. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
They walk around while reading the help docs created in Framemaker. Sorry if I was unclear. The proof of concept is that FM can be used to create this sort of documentation. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Nobody walks around while using FrameMaker. My guess is they chose Responsive HTML over WebHelp for the same reason they dropped topics, used larger type and screen shots, added page breaks, and posted a URL to pages not visible to the public. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
Sure, it makes sense to generate all of the output formats and make them available as samples. But choosing Responsive HTML instead of WebHelp as the format for the primary copy of the help on adobe.com just serves to highlight its limitations. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: They walk around while reading the help docs created in Framemaker. Sorry if I was unclear. The proof of concept is that FM can be used to create this sort of documentation. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
I'm curious about one thing (well, more than just one; but one thing in the current context...): Has Adobe ever actually said that they use FrameMaker produce the FrameMaker documentation? I know that Microsoft has never made any such statement about the MS Word documentation, and for years there have been two persistent rumors about this; one is that they use a proprietary in-house tool or system, and another is that they use FrameMaker. -FR From: craig...@hotmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:19:05 -0600 They walk around while reading the help docs created in Framemaker. Sorry if I was unclear. The proof of concept is that FM can be used to create this sort of documentation. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Nobody walks around while using FrameMaker. My guess is they chose Responsive HTML over WebHelp for the same reason they dropped topics, used larger type and screen shots, added page breaks, and posted a URL to pages not visible to the public. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
You can sometimes tell from the PDF properties ... I always find it interesting when I see stuff that tells me that people don't trust their own [editing and other] tools! :) But in this case, the meta-data for Using-FrameMaker-12.pdf says it was created by Application: FrameMaker 12.0.3 using Acrobat Distiller 11.0 (Windows). Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:07 PM To: Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped I'm curious about one thing (well, more than just one; but one thing in the current context...): Has Adobe ever actually said that they use FrameMaker produce the FrameMaker documentation? I know that Microsoft has never made any such statement about the MS Word documentation, and for years there have been two persistent rumors about this; one is that they use a proprietary in-house tool or system, and another is that they use FrameMaker. -FR ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
In the old days (circa 1993), when Microsoft actually produced hard copy manuals - and they were fabulous manuals from a content standpoint - they did actually use MS Word to produce them (my husband was a Microsoft programmer at the time). Since they've gone to online help, it's more about the online than the help - unless of course you need to do something really difficult like open a file or apply a bold font style. The kind of help a seasoned writer would be looking for is pretty much non-existent. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.comhttp://www.analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:07 PM To: Craig Ede; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped I'm curious about one thing (well, more than just one; but one thing in the current context...): Has Adobe ever actually said that they use FrameMaker produce the FrameMaker documentation? I know that Microsoft has never made any such statement about the MS Word documentation, and for years there have been two persistent rumors about this; one is that they use a proprietary in-house tool or system, and another is that they use FrameMaker. -FR From: craig...@hotmail.commailto:craig...@hotmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:19:05 -0600 They walk around while reading the help docs created in Framemaker. Sorry if I was unclear. The proof of concept is that FM can be used to create this sort of documentation. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped Nobody walks around while using FrameMaker. My guess is they chose Responsive HTML over WebHelp for the same reason they dropped topics, used larger type and screen shots, added page breaks, and posted a URL to pages not visible to the public. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.commailto:craig...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
Microsoft reportedly didn't use FrameMaker or RoboHelp to create online help: http://www.techwr-l.com/archives/0308/techwhirl-0308-00155.html#.VJCxcydg6iM Microsoft Press has used FrameMaker for some books and probably still does. They did the MMoS4 in InDesign. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
I don't wanna be overly blunt, but the new online help basically looks terrible (on my Windows 7 / IE10 default setup). The fonts are enormous and you have to click through too many layers of headings to find anything, with no ToC or breadcrumb trail. The plain fact is that the printed manual trumped any of this new-fangled gubbins. If Adobe really feel it eats into their profit margin too much to include it with the software as standard, could they not consider selling a printed manual separately, as an additional option? _ David Davis *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
I agree. I downloaded the PDF instead. A lot of web content seems to be going the way of cell phone/small screen display. In the USA I see more and more sites starting to look like cell phone displays with less real information. It appears that instead of implementing responsive HTML, companies are implementing cell phone displays as the standard for all devices. I often think the information is also becoming more pedestrian, i.e less technical. I remember looking up how to install a home furnace. It said step three was the hardest; Step 3: Locating a furnace contractor. I that light, the only hard part about implementing Framemaker is locating a good FM consultant. Ed On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: I don't wanna be overly blunt, but the new online help basically looks terrible (on my Windows 7 / IE10 default setup). The fonts are enormous and you have to click through too many layers of headings to find anything, with no ToC or breadcrumb trail. The plain fact is that the printed manual trumped any of this new-fangled gubbins. If Adobe really feel it eats into their profit margin too much to include it with the software as standard, could they not consider selling a printed manual separately, as an additional option? _ David Davis *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/enodland%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
Agreed too. The online help is not great. I am using Frame 10 and am trying to make up my mind about putting through a request for 12 or wait until 13, which I’m guessing will be out next year. So I want to browse through the docs to get an idea of how helpful the new features will be. The PDF is much easier for this purpose. OTOH, either still beats the “help” in Word 2010 or 2013 which is completely useless. I just use Google when I need to find out something. Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Nodland Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:54 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF I agree. I downloaded the PDF instead. A lot of web content seems to be going the way of cell phone/small screen display. In the USA I see more and more sites starting to look like cell phone displays with less real information. It appears that instead of implementing responsive HTML, companies are implementing cell phone displays as the standard for all devices. I often think the information is also becoming more pedestrian, i.e less technical. I remember looking up how to install a home furnace. It said step three was the hardest; Step 3: Locating a furnace contractor. I that light, the only hard part about implementing Framemaker is locating a good FM consultant. Ed NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
Sorry if this is obvious to some .. I'm thinking it's not obvious to all. This Help system *is* responsive .. it's just that the response points seem to be at odd sizes (at least to me). If your browser window is around 1300px wide, you'll get the full set of features. At around 1000px you get a reduced set. Then around 700px it bumps down again. Losing the TOC at 1300px seems a bit extreme. Personally, I'd set that at 600-800px. Not everyone works with a browser at full screen, and there's no reason that you need so much room for the content pane. Keep the TOC visible until the content pane is too small to be useful. I really like the fact that this is responsive .. the problem is that a responsive layout needs to be well designed at all sizes. That does complicate things a bit, but it's worth the effort in the long run. Cheers, ...scott On 12/15/14 5:54 AM, Ed Nodland wrote: I agree. I downloaded the PDF instead. A lot of web content seems to be going the way of cell phone/small screen display. In the USA I see more and more sites starting to look like cell phone displays with less real information. It appears that instead of implementing responsive HTML, companies are implementing cell phone displays as the standard for all devices. I often think the information is also becoming more pedestrian, i.e less technical. I remember looking up how to install a home furnace. It said step three was the hardest; Step 3: Locating a furnace contractor. I that light, the only hard part about implementing Framemaker is locating a good FM consultant. Ed On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com mailto:david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: I don't wanna be overly blunt, but the new online help basically looks terrible (on my Windows 7 / IE10 default setup). The fonts are enormous and you have to click through too many layers of headings to find anything, with no ToC or breadcrumb trail. The plain fact is that the printed manual trumped any of this new-fangled gubbins. If Adobe really feel it eats into their profit margin too much to include it with the software as standard, could they not consider selling a printed manual separately, as an additional option? _ David Davis *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com http://invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 tel:%2B44%20%280%2920%203155%201200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com mailto:recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear, there's nothing you can click on to get it. Is that the default appearance of FrameMaker's / RoboHelp's Responsive HTML5 output? To me it looks amateurish and ugly, the kind of bad design that I was happy to lose when I migrated from RoboHelp to WebWorks ePublisher Pro. Viewing it on my desktop, type and icons are too big. On my Android phone, running text is SMALLER than the default, and adobe.com won't let me view the old version. Why even use responsive help for FrameMaker? It's not like anyone's running the application on a smartphone. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote: Sorry if this is obvious to some .. I'm thinking it's not obvious to all. This Help system *is* responsive .. it's just that the response points seem to be at odd sizes (at least to me). If your browser window is around 1300px wide, you'll get the full set of features. At around 1000px you get a reduced set. Then around 700px it bumps down again. Losing the TOC at 1300px seems a bit extreme. Personally, I'd set that at 600-800px. Not everyone works with a browser at full screen, and there's no reason that you need so much room for the content pane. Keep the TOC visible until the content pane is too small to be useful. I really like the fact that this is responsive .. the problem is that a responsive layout needs to be well designed at all sizes. That does complicate things a bit, but it's worth the effort in the long run. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
Robert,The previous version is installed with FrameMaker 12 as a chm. It even has the Endnotes sections.I have the PDF of the CHM. Can't remember where I found it though. If you want a copy I can forward.Dave Spreadbury On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:54 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear, there's nothing you can click on to get it. Is that the default appearance of FrameMaker's / RoboHelp's Responsive HTML5 output? To me it looks amateurish and ugly, the kind of bad design that I was happy to lose when I migrated from RoboHelp to WebWorks ePublisher Pro. Viewing it on my desktop, type and icons are too big. On my Android phone, running text is SMALLER than the default, and adobe.com won't let me view the old version. Why even use responsive help for FrameMaker? It's not like anyone's running the application on a smartphone. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote: Sorry if this is obvious to some .. I'm thinking it's not obvious to all. This Help system *is* responsive .. it's just that the response points seem to be at odd sizes (at least to me). If your browser window is around 1300px wide, you'll get the full set of features. At around 1000px you get a reduced set. Then around 700px it bumps down again. Losing the TOC at 1300px seems a bit extreme. Personally, I'd set that at 600-800px. Not everyone works with a browser at full screen, and there's no reason that you need so much room for the content pane. Keep the TOC visible until the content pane is too small to be useful. I really like the fact that this is responsive .. the problem is that a responsive layout needs to be well designed at all sizes. That does complicate things a bit, but it's worth the effort in the long run. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
I'm viewing on a monitor, not a phone. For me, the TOC button moves to the bottom of the screen when window size is reduced. Mike Wickham On 12/15/2014 12:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear, there's nothing you can click on to get it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
At around 1280 pixels or wider, there's a TOC nav tree in a left-hand pane. In the middle of the border between the TOC and the topic pane, there's a left arrow you can click to minimize the TOC. Minimized, there's a right arrow to expand it. At less than 1280, the expanded or minimized TOC disappears, and I see no way to get it. There is a button in the top left corner you can click to *replace* the current topic with a hard-to-navigate version of the TOC with huge amounts of white space. I only looked at it on my phone to see if the design choices that are awful on the desktop made any more sense. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: I'm viewing on a monitor, not a phone. For me, the TOC button moves to the bottom of the screen when window size is reduced. Mike Wickham On 12/15/2014 12:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear, there's nothing you can click on to get it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped
Thanks for the links Maxwell. The PDF looks interesting. As for the HTML, I understand Responsive HTML is cool and all that and has some applications, but I am trying to come up with a scenario where I would look up something in FrameMaker Help on my phone. If I need to research something in FrameMaker Help, I think I would open a browser in one of my two desktop monitors instead of trying to read it on a tiny phone screen (Galaxy S3). Is this capability something requested by other Frame users or is Adobe simply showing that it can be done via Frame? Michael Norton | Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF
Okay. I see now that I wasn't even seeing the TOC window at 1920 pixels wide because I have IE set to display at 150%. So I didn't know what I was missing. When I dropped down to 125% view, it popped in. Mike Wickham On 12/15/2014 1:33 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: At around 1280 pixels or wider, there's a TOC nav tree in a left-hand pane. In the middle of the border between the TOC and the topic pane, there's a left arrow you can click to minimize the TOC. Minimized, there's a right arrow to expand it. At less than 1280, the expanded or minimized TOC disappears, and I see no way to get it. There is a button in the top left corner you can click to *replace* the current topic with a hard-to-navigate version of the TOC with huge amounts of white space. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP button to try it out.) The TWEET below has link to blog with details and illustrations: NEW #FrameMaker User’s Guide: Sliced, Diced, and Enhanced [Now in HTML5 Responsive Layout!] - adobe.ly/1yGIrTH Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK PDF: http://adobe.ly/1uLhITn Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Maxwell,It would be great to be able to download the PDF or link to the HTML version but both links above don't work.My preference would be the PDF. I prefer to have a local copy.The HTML5 link does work. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP button to try it out.) The TWEET below has link to blog with details and illustrations: NEW #FrameMaker User’s Guide: Sliced, Diced, and Enhanced [Now in HTML5 Responsive Layout!] - adobe.ly/1yGIrTH Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK PDF: http://adobe.ly/1uLhITn Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Hi Maxwell I'd love to see the HTML 5 Responsive layout but neither link works for me in FF or Chrome. Linda On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP button to try it out.) The TWEET below has link to blog with details and illustrations: NEW #FrameMaker User’s Guide: Sliced, Diced, and Enhanced [Now in HTML5 Responsive Layout!] - adobe.ly/1yGIrTH Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK PDF: http://adobe.ly/1uLhITn Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as l...@qad.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lnr%40qad.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Try the non-stage versions of the URLs .. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_getstarted_gs%2Ffrm_getstarted_gs-1.htm http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/using-framemaker-12.pdf Cheers! ...scott On 12/12/14 11:17 AM, Linda Rose wrote: Hi Maxwell I'd love to see the HTML 5 Responsive layout but neither link works for me in FF or Chrome. Linda On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com mailto:mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Adobe has updated online Documentation for FrameMaker 12 (click the HELP button to try it out.) The TWEET below has link to blog with details and illustrations: NEW #FrameMaker User’s Guide: Sliced, Diced, and Enhanced [Now in HTML5 Responsive Layout!] - adobe.ly/1yGIrTH http://adobe.ly/1yGIrTH Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK PDF: http://adobe.ly/1uLhITn Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 tel:503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 tel:503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com mailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as l...@qad.com mailto:l...@qad.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lnr%40qad.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com mailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as s...@leximation.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp14%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html which is presumably your internal-only staging area. If you remove the stage. it works correctly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Robert, thank you for catching this. I will fix the link in the blog as well. Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html which is presumably your internal-only staging area. If you remove the stage. it works correctly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Folks, Here are the corrected shortened URLs to the online FrameMaker documentation outside of the stage area: HTML: http://adobe.ly/1Dokcld PDF: http://adobe.ly/1Dokp84 Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 That obfuscated link resolves to http://help.stage.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html which is presumably your internal-only staging area. If you remove the stage. it works correctly. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Here are the direct links to the documentation: HTML: http://adobe.ly/11x6zyK ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhoff...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhoffman%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Robert,Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are several sections missing in the New version.Maybe keeping both links available would be a temporary fix.Just like I keep a copy of the Framemaker 5 User Guide because the index in the pre-Adobe Framemaker was more robust in what it covered. This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
I have not looked at the content yet, but Adobe documentation should be an exemplar, and IMHO a four-level TOC is not. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would expect a lot of good stuff.Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages.That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old.I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:10 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert,Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are several sections missing in the New version.Maybe keeping both links available would be a temporary fix.Just like I keep a copy of the Framemaker 5 User Guide because the index in the pre-Adobe Framemaker was more robust in what it covered. This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Hi Robert, Thank you for your detailed feedback. I will share this and other comments early next week with the doc team manager. Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:03 PM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5 The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
The new version has larger type, more white space, more headings, and lower dpi for screen shots, so, for example, the content on page 347 of the new version takes only about 3/4 of page 230 in the old version. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote: From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would expect a lot of good stuff. Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages. That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old. I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:10 PM, David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert, Comparing the TOC of the New Using Framemaker 12 against the TOC of the one you referenced this morning (see below) concerning endnotes, there are several sections missing in the New version. Maybe keeping both links available would be a temporary fix. Just like I keep a copy of the Framemaker 5 User Guide because the index in the pre-Adobe Framemaker was more robust in what it covered. This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: The search seems to be broken, e.g. the results for footnote do not include this Create and edit footnotes topic: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS6C3D24E6-2965-48bb-B6CF-50D1439AEB01.html Or maybe you just cut some content. Searching for endnote finds nothing. Something's wrong with the word spacing, compare old and new to see what I mean: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7fff.html http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/Help/Using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-12%2Ffrm_books_bk%2Ffrm_books_bk-4.htm I prefer the smaller text in the old CSS. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Are you sure the items are missing? The blog about the new help files said: */Content organization:/* FrameMaker is a powerful product packed with rich functionality. However, not all users use all of its functionality all the time. While improving the guide, we made a conscious attempt to minimize scattering of information and keep content around related features together. For example, information about using structured authoring features forms two neat chapters in the new user's guide. This information was spread across several chapters in the earlier user's guide Mike Wickham On 12/12/2014 2:18 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would expect a lot of good stuff. Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages. That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old. I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
The word endnote does not appear in the new PDF, so that's pretty definitely gone. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: Are you sure the items are missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5
Just compare the TOC of the help file that ships with Frame 12 against the TOC of the new guide.The chapter that includes endnotes, in the current version, is missing several sections in the new version.A simple search of the new version for 'endnotes' will come back with Not Found. On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:22 PM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: Are you sure the items are missing? The blog about the new help files said: Content organization: FrameMaker is a powerful product packed with rich functionality. However, not all users use all of its functionality all the time. While improving the guide, we made a conscious attempt to minimize scattering of information and keep content around related features together. For example, information about using structured authoring features forms two neat chapters in the new user’s guide. This information was spread across several chapters in the earlier user’s guide Mike Wickham On 12/12/2014 2:18 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I would expect a lot of good stuff. Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages. That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old. I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Can FrameMaker 12 run under Wine (on Ubuntu distribution of Linux)?
Has anyone successfully done the above? i.e., installed FrameMaker and Acrobat using Wine under Ubuntu? And made it work pretty much cleanly? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
webinar recommendation: FrameMaker 12 regular expression search
Rick Quatro did a great presentation on FrameMaker 12 Regular expression search last week. I watched the archived webinar and learned quite a few things that would have taken a while to work through on my own. Highly recommended. See it at: http://tinyurl.com/mzlql6k or you can pick it from the list of archived Adobe webinars at: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J Maxwell's short presentation on FM Tables was very good, too. One of the things mentioned was the ability to navigate between the cells with the arrow keys that is part of the 12.0.3. update. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Update to FrameMaker 12 (FM 12.0.3)
Framers, Today our product management team announced a point release free upgrade for users of FrameMaker 12. You can read all about it in the blog at the following URL: http://adobe.ly/1BiFryz Categories mentioned include: Responsive HTML5 output is now faster and better Additional publishing enhancements (FM Only) == FrameMaker 12 can now publish the content in the reference pages as well for all non-PDF outputs. == The non-PDF publishing for large files with many images is now faster with 50% reduction in publishing time. Integration with other Adobe products would work without TCS license Structure View Enhancements Table Enhancements CMS Connector Enhancements We have fixed more than 25 bugs as well! Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Update to FrameMaker 12 (FM 12.0.3)
Huzzah! :-) And *do* go read the update/defect remediation list at http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/release-note/framemaker-12-0-3-readme.html There are some features I would never have even thought to look for in the Table enhancements, and *finally!!*: * Show/hide Conditional Text dialog is resize-able * Cross Reference dialog is resize-able * If a user is currently at a specific location in a document, the corresponding tags are highlighted in the following catalogs: o Paragraph o Character o Table o Object style Kudos to the development team! Grant On September 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Framers, Today our product management team announced a point release free upgrade for users of FrameMaker 12. You can read all about it in the blog at the following URL: http://adobe.ly/1BiFryz Categories mentioned include: Responsive HTML5 output is now faster and better Additional publishing enhancements (FM Only) == FrameMaker 12 can now publish the content in the reference pages as well for all non-PDF outputs. == The non-PDF publishing for large files with many images is now faster with 50% reduction in publishing time. Integration with other Adobe products would work without TCS license Structure View Enhancements Table Enhancements CMS Connector Enhancements We have fixed more than 25 bugs as well! Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12 Package function doesn't really work
Hi group I've got an Fm file with graphics imported by reference. The Fm file is in folder A and the graphics are in folder B, C and D. When I try to create a package, I get a message saying that I opted not to create [a] package if dependent file(s) are missing and that files will not be copied as they exist outside [the] containing folder of the document to be packaged. No I did not opt this and I thought that was the whole idea of creating a package: to collect all the linked graphics into a single folder (or subfolders), as the Archive plugin or the Archive ExtendScript did. So, when I click Continue after seeing the above messages, a ZIP file is created but it only contains my Fm file, no graphics. Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
If Google Ngrams is to be believed, it was first coined around 1824: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=wordmongeryear_start=1800year_end=2000 Original Message From: Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk Date: Tue, May 20, 2014 2:05 pm Ps. Word Mongers - hmm, nice name. I've been called a Word Carver. I hope it was a compliment! I thought I'd invented the term 'wordmonger' (in 1995, during a bout of more than usually furious concentration), as in 'one who sells words', but years later I discovered that the word already existed, and meant 'a writer who uses words for show or without particular regard for meaning'. Sigh. Such is life. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
That is so, I clarified that today with the guys at the Adobe booth at the STC14 Summit. On May 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: I assume, and maybe Max can enlighten us further, that any updates (or upgrades) can be triggered or refused as desired by the user (or the users administrator). That's the way it works with Adobe Creative Cloud at any rate. So I think the Really Bad Thing scenario is unlikely. Craig This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
Rick, You may want to be aware of a current product launch promotion that is about to expire. Through May 30th, (10 days left) you can subscribe to ALL of Tech Comm Suite 5 (FrameMaker, RoboHelp, Captivate, Acrobat and Presenter), for the same price of $29.99. That is one dollar per day for 5 products (yes, with a one-year commitment). This is a one-time promotion related to first 6 months of product launch and this comes to an end 11:59 PM May 30th, Pacific Time. There is an information link to the 40% off promo on the home page of FrameMaker and Tech Comm Suite. FYI -- after the one year, you can downgrade from Tech Comm Suite to only FrameMaker and continue the subscription for only $29.99 per month. Again, $1 per day. Incidentally, if a major release comes out (e.g. FrameMaker 13) during your subscription, you are automatically upgraded at no extra cost. If you would like regular updates on such promotions, follow us on Twitter at @AdobeTCS or @maxwellhoffmann Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann [blogs.adobe.com/techcomm]blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:04 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker 12 Cloud Hi Framers, Anyone using FrameMaker 12 subscription version? The price I am seeing is $29.99 per month, but it requires a 1 year commitment. If you cancel before the year is up, they charge you 50% of the remaining months. Huh? What good is a month-to-month subscription if I have to commit to a year? I am inquiring for a low-budget, non-profit client. Come on Adobe; there is enough bad will with all of the subscription stuff and high upgrade prices. Why the one-year commitment? Is it that costly to turn the subscription on or off before the year is up? Why not like my Lynda.com subscription which I can turn off and on at will? Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhoff...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhoffman%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
With all respect to Maxwell, special offers do not answer Rick's point. Adobe has generated *massive* ill-will over its licensing policies; I only hope this this is reflected in some substantive way, such as the stock price, that will cause it to rethink. Incidentally, if a major release comes out (e.g. FrameMaker 13) during your subscription, you are automatically upgraded at no extra cost. This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). Just my 10c. -- Steve Rickaby BSc MBCS CITP MISTC http://www.linkedin.com/in/steverickaby WordMongers Ltdhttp://www.wordmongers.com [FrameMaker user and evangelist since 1993] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
Don't forget that the people on the newer version will now be incompatible (unless the engineering changes) with their non-cloudy colleagues; they'll have to save as MIF until everyone is up to FM13. On May 20, 2014 7:44 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: With all respect to Maxwell, special offers do not answer Rick's point. Adobe has generated *massive* ill-will over its licensing policies; I only hope this this is reflected in some substantive way, such as the stock price, that will cause it to rethink. Incidentally, if a major release comes out (e.g. FrameMaker 13) during your subscription, you are automatically upgraded at no extra cost. This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). Just my 10c. -- Steve Rickaby BSc MBCS CITP MISTC http://www.linkedin.com/in/steverickaby WordMongers Ltdhttp://www.wordmongers.com [FrameMaker user and evangelist since 1993] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
Hi Steve, Yes, you are right, I didn't answer Rick's question. I have no answer, other than that Lynda.com provides training which wouldn't be used weekly in production as FrameMaker usually is. I do however feel that everyone should be aware that they only have 10 days left to get 5 products for $1 per day. That is a pretty big deal, and it ends forever on May 30th. I will now exit this discussion. I do appreciate your feedback. Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann [blogs.adobe.com/techcomm]blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J From: Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:43 AM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud With all respect to Maxwell, special offers do not answer Rick's point. Adobe has generated *massive* ill-will over its licensing policies; I only hope this this is reflected in some substantive way, such as the stock price, that will cause it to rethink. Incidentally, if a major release comes out (e.g. FrameMaker 13) during your subscription, you are automatically upgraded at no extra cost. This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). Just my 10c. -- Steve Rickaby BSc MBCS CITP MISTC http://www.linkedin.com/in/steverickaby WordMongers Ltdhttp://www.wordmongers.com [FrameMaker user and evangelist since 1993] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
I assume, and maybe Max can enlighten us further, that any updates (or upgrades) can be triggered or refused as desired by the user (or the users administrator). That's the way it works with Adobe Creative Cloud at any rate. So I think the Really Bad Thing scenario is unlikely. Craig This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
Right on, about automatic upgrades. They should be optional. Here's the gotcha! Should be plural, not singular: 1. Adobe suffers from the inability to cohesively deal with post sale help issues within a product by version, or by PDF's, on-line, forums, including **in-person tech support*. Adobe suffers? So do we! 2. Adobe displays an endemic nonchalance to providing focused answers to questions without misdirecting the issue to other releases, some being several years old with different interfaces. 3. Additionally, while seeking a legitimate answer to one thing or the other, it's not helpful to be smacked in the face with salubrious advertising, especially, a) if it's redundant to a current subscription. (How many times to I need to subscribe to the same products in the same suite?), or b) it's for any other product which Adobe's kaleidoscopic visionaries are favoring. **Case in point:* 1. to my pleasant surprise, twice, last week, I receive a call from Frame Tech Support in New Delhi regarding Frame 12's 2nd patch creating a shrunken pear shape when installed in Windows 8.1. 2. I was informed that my issue was not the first. (Cool, I'm not the only thorn among roses.) 3. Here's the rub! The tech, via Adobe Connect, was operating in Windows 7 Pro, a fact not provided me until the end of call number two. 1. He could see that Frame 12 and the 1st patch were not corrupted. 2. He could see the mess caused by the 2nd patch. 3. So he tweaked my registry, whereupon, I began to suspect he was not using or familiar with Windows 8.1. His pointer was from the wrong kennel. 4. He admitted failure and decided to escalate the issue and assured me I would hear from Adobe a/o yesterday. (Monday, the 19th. Tuesday in New Delhi, giving the escalator repairman an extra day to de-kink it.) 5. Meanwhile, the computer was now acting odd. So, on Sunday, I did a complete repair within 8.1 (Several hours were dedicated to repairing Adobe's well meaning but ill prepared support.) 6. FYI, I have received no contact from Adobe via email, telephone, or carrier pigeon. Today, I am running Frame 12 without any patches. It works fine. Who knows what I'm missing from the subsequent patches? Bad joke intended! Thanks, Steve, for getting on Maxwell for his well intended, though myopic, marketing pitch which sounded like: hurry up. All aboard. Train's leaving! When I take the A Train, I expect to get where I'm going. My apologies to Duke Ellington. Ted Ps. Word Mongers - hmm, nice name. I've been called a Word Carver. I hope it was a compliment! On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: With all respect to Maxwell, special offers do not answer Rick's point. Adobe has generated *massive* ill-will over its licensing policies; I only hope this this is reflected in some substantive way, such as the stock price, that will cause it to rethink. Incidentally, if a major release comes out (e.g. FrameMaker 13) during your subscription, you are automatically upgraded at no extra cost. This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although I'd like to). Just my 10c. -- Steve Rickaby BSc MBCS CITP MISTC http://www.linkedin.com/in/steverickaby WordMongers Ltdhttp://www.wordmongers.com [FrameMaker user and evangelist since 1993] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mtedsteinb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mtedsteinberg%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Ted Steinberg Management Consultant Apartado 185-7150 Turrialba, Cartago, Costa Rica 506-2556-5044 [Costa Rica] ted.steinberg5634 [Skype] mtedsteinb...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12 Cloud
Hi Framers, Anyone using FrameMaker 12 subscription version? The price I am seeing is $29.99 per month, but it requires a 1 year commitment. If you cancel before the year is up, they charge you 50% of the remaining months. Huh? What good is a month-to-month subscription if I have to commit to a year? I am inquiring for a low-budget, non-profit client. Come on Adobe; there is enough bad will with all of the subscription stuff and high upgrade prices. Why the one-year commitment? Is it that costly to turn the subscription on or off before the year is up? Why not like my Lynda.com subscription which I can turn off and on at will? Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Seminar/webinar on FrameMaker 12
The Southwestern Ontario chapter of the STC is hosting Bernard Aschwanden who is giving a talk on What's New in FrameMaker 12 on Tuesday, May 6. I know we've already discussed many of the new features on this list, but if you want the information in one tidy package, want to see a demo in real time, and ask specific questions, this seminar is for you. See http://www.stc-soc.org/calendar/2014-05-06.php for more information. Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical and Wireless Division feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2229 | Waterloo office +1 519-831-4931 | mobile +1 905-631-5724 | fax www.onsemi.comhttp://www.onsemi.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12 publish feature
I have just bought and installed FrameMaker 12 and have been playing around with the publish feature. I would like to publish some manuals to epub, but I just can't seem to make it work properly. When I publish to epub: - all embedded pictures disappear - czech characters disappear - tables and the text and pictures in them disappear There doesn't seem to be any way to handle font settings or character map settings in the settings dialogue. Publish to other formats like html etc is only marginally better. Am I missing something here? The publish features seem rather unfinished to me... regards Bjørn ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 publish feature
Have you ever created ePUB output before? Some things may not be supported by the standard - see http://www.mattrsullivan.com/blog/tcs/ebooks/ for issues that Matt Sullivan had when he turned his FM bible into ePUB. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Studio Smalbro Sent: March-12-14 10:03 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker 12 publish feature I have just bought and installed FrameMaker 12 and have been playing around with the publish feature. I would like to publish some manuals to epub, but I just can't seem to make it work properly. When I publish to epub: - all embedded pictures disappear - czech characters disappear - tables and the text and pictures in them disappear There doesn't seem to be any way to handle font settings or character map settings in the settings dialogue. Publish to other formats like html etc is only marginally better. Am I missing something here? The publish features seem rather unfinished to me... regards Bjørn ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 12: Upgrade cutoff
Does anyone know what the upgrade pricing cutoff date is? Thanks! Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Update for FrameMaker 12
Hi, There is already an update for FrameMaker 12 which fixes some bugs: 1. Generating a list or an index of references (imported graphics) results in a blank file. (Ref#: 3703081) 2. The Search and Replace feature causes any replaced text to be formatted in Times New Roman with size as 12pt Default. This is irrespective of font and font-size of the replaced text. (Ref#: 3703070) 3. Accessing WebHelp locally (not accessing the help via a Web Server) from Chrome on Mac does not show TOC search. (Ref#: 3703173) 4. When a Glossary / Glossaryterm is not present in the first .fm file of a book, the Glossary popup feature does not work for any of the .fm files in the book. (Ref#: 3703172) 5. When a window-intensive application like the Lotus Notes is open, then FrameMaker takes long time to open Publish pod or the workspace containing Publish pod. (Ref#: 3703168) 6. FrameMaker crashes on printing a book in unstructured mode. (Ref#: 3703064) Best regards Winfried This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Update for FrameMaker 12
Hi Matt, The Adobe Application Manager started to search for updates. The PDF with the release info was installed in the FrameMaker installation folder. Best regards Winfried From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:07 PM To: Reng, Dr. Winfried Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Update for FrameMaker 12 Hi Winfried, Where did you find a link to the update? I don't see anything on the website, and Help Updates is unavailable. -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11http://framemaker11book.com/ P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.commailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivanhttp://twitter.com/mattrsullivan linkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrsullivan facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan mattrsullivan.comhttp://mattrsullivan.com/ On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.commailto:wr...@tycoint.com wrote: Hi, There is already an update for FrameMaker 12 which fixes some bugs: 1. Generating a list or an index of references (imported graphics) results in a blank file. (Ref#: 3703081) 2. The Search and Replace feature causes any replaced text to be formatted in Times New Roman with size as 12pt Default. This is irrespective of font and font-size of the replaced text. (Ref#: 3703070) 3. Accessing WebHelp locally (not accessing the help via a Web Server) from Chrome on Mac does not show TOC search. (Ref#: 3703173) 4. When a Glossary / Glossaryterm is not present in the first .fm file of a book, the Glossary popup feature does not work for any of the .fm files in the book. (Ref#: 3703172) 5. When a window-intensive application like the Lotus Notes is open, then FrameMaker takes long time to open Publish pod or the workspace containing Publish pod. (Ref#: 3703168) 6. FrameMaker crashes on printing a book in unstructured mode. (Ref#: 3703064) Best regards Winfried This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.commailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RECORDING of What's new in FrameMaker 12 webinar from Jan 28 with time chart
This might be helpful to me, since I'm trying to learn my way around FM. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.comwrote: Yesterday we had huge turnout at our first FrameMaker 12 webinar, which covered many significant new features. The session is 2 hours and 15 minutes long. I am posting info on how to access the recording and also some time stops you can fast forward to for specific features and areas that interest you the most. Here is the link to the recording: http://adobe.ly/1ibB3Ku (use your Adobe.com account credentials to log-in ... once you have you won't need to log-in again as long as browser instance is running.) If you are using Chrome, I recommend that you clear your cache and restart Chrome before viewing. Here are some key time stop points that will take you to major highlights of the presentation: * 1 hour 10 min = How to publish from FM12 to EPUB, HTML5 RESPONSIVE LAYOUT and more (in answer to many questions, this is FrameMaker 12 by itself, with no plug-ins, and no assistance from RoboHelp 11 or Tech Comm Suite 5!) * 1 hour 36 min = Structure and FrameMaker XML Author 12 * 1 hour 50 min = MathML equations, including XML code view to edit * 1 hour 53 min = improved XML white space handling * 1 hour 57 min = Preview DITAMAP topic content * 12 min = user interface enhancements * 25 minutes = Regular Expressions used in Find/Change (e.g. reverse date format) * 28 min 44 sec = Generate QR code * 30 min 28 sec = background color on text level and boxed/colored paragraphs * 32 min 30 sec = improved Conditional Text control, new UI and complex expressions * 38 min 44 sec = enhanced Smart Catalogs with search/filter to narrow choices * 46 min = improved collaborative workflow with Dropbox integration and improved PDF review Many people emailed me after the webinar asking about our 40% discount offer. For a limited time, all existing customers of Adobe Technical Communication Suite, Adobe FrameMaker and Adobe RoboHelp are eligible to take advantage of this limited period promotional offer to purchase subscription licenses of Adobe Technical Communication Suite 5 at 40% off for an entire year. This would allow you to subscribe to the entire Tech Comm Suite 5 (FrameMaker 12, RoboHelp 11, Captivate 7, Acrobat Pro XI and Presenter 8) for only $29.99 per month, the same subscription price as FrameMaker. Subscriptions are now a 1 year commitment, though you are billed monthly. Perpetual (boxed DVD) licenses are still available. Here is the link to that promotion: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/promotions.html * -- * *Maxwell Hoffmann* | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com *http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann* http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann* - **http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann*http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann* blogs.adobe.com/techcomm http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm* *Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as david.h.down...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.h.downing%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RECORDING of What's new in FrameMaker 12 webinar from Jan 28 with time chart
Thanks! Does anyone know of a CIAB for FM12? I could have sworn I saw a download on amazon.com and then - poof! It was gone. The Getting Started Guide on the Adobe site won't open and doesn't appear to have the depth of training the CIAB series does. Could I simply order the FM 11 CIAB and get 90% of the basic FM 12 functionality? Your thoughts? TIA for your help. On Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:07 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Yesterday we had huge turnout at our first FrameMaker 12 webinar, which covered many significant new features. The session is 2 hours and 15 minutes long. I am posting info on how to access the recording and also some time stops you can fast forward to for specific features and areas that interest you the most. Here is the link to the recording: http://adobe.ly/1ibB3Ku (use your Adobe.com account credentials to log-in … once you have you won’t need to log-in again as long as browser instance is running.) If you are using Chrome, I recommend that you clear your cache and restart Chrome before viewing. Here are some key “time stop” points that will take you to major highlights of the presentation: • 1 hour 10 min = How to publish from FM12 to EPUB, HTML5 RESPONSIVE LAYOUT and more (in answer to many questions, this is FrameMaker 12 by itself, with no plug-ins, and no assistance from RoboHelp 11 or Tech Comm Suite 5!) • 1 hour 36 min = Structure and FrameMaker XML Author 12 • 1 hour 50 min = MathML equations, including XML code view to edit • 1 hour 53 min = improved XML white space handling • 1 hour 57 min = Preview DITAMAP topic content • 12 min = user interface enhancements • 25 minutes = Regular Expressions used in Find/Change (e.g. reverse date format) • 28 min 44 sec = Generate QR code • 30 min 28 sec = background color on text level and boxed/colored paragraphs • 32 min 30 sec = improved Conditional Text control, new UI and complex expressions • 38 min 44 sec = enhanced Smart Catalogs with search/filter to narrow choices • 46 min = improved collaborative workflow with Dropbox integration and improved PDF review Many people emailed me after the webinar asking about our 40% discount offer. For a limited time, all existing customers of Adobe Technical Communication Suite, Adobe FrameMaker and Adobe RoboHelp are eligible to take advantage of this limited period promotional offer to purchase subscription licenses of Adobe Technical Communication Suite 5 at 40% off for an entire year. This would allow you to subscribe to the entire Tech Comm Suite 5 (FrameMaker 12, RoboHelp 11, Captivate 7, Acrobat Pro XI and Presenter 8) for only $29.99 per month, the same subscription price as FrameMaker. Subscriptions are now a 1 year commitment, though you are billed monthly. Perpetual (boxed DVD) licenses are still available. Here is the link to that promotion: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/promotions.html Maxwell Hoffmann| Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann- http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as hessian...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/hessiansx4%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RECORDING of What's new in FrameMaker 12 webinar from Jan 28 with time chart
The Kindle version is still there: http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-FrameMaker-11-Classroom-Book-ebook/dp/B00AVWL9I4 Hope that helps, Lea Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific www.astoria-pacific.comhttp://www.astoria-pacific.com/ P: 800-536-3111, +1-503-657-3010 Please consider the environment before printing this email. `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸ º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸º NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of hessiansx4 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 6:08 PM To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RECORDING of What's new in FrameMaker 12 webinar from Jan 28 with time chart Thanks! Does anyone know of a CIAB for FM12? I could have sworn I saw a download on amazon.com and then - poof! It was gone. The Getting Started Guide on the Adobe site won't open and doesn't appear to have the depth of training the CIAB series does. Could I simply order the FM 11 CIAB and get 90% of the basic FM 12 functionality? Your thoughts? TIA for your help. On Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:07 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com wrote: Yesterday we had huge turnout at our first FrameMaker 12 webinar, which covered many significant new features. The session is 2 hours and 15 minutes long. I am posting info on how to access the recording and also some time stops you can fast forward to for specific features and areas that interest you the most. Here is the link to the recording: http://adobe.ly/1ibB3Ku (use your Adobe.com account credentials to log-in … once you have you won’t need to log-in again as long as browser instance is running.) If you are using Chrome, I recommend that you clear your cache and restart Chrome before viewing. Here are some key “time stop” points that will take you to major highlights of the presentation: • 1 hour 10 min = How to publish from FM12 to EPUB, HTML5 RESPONSIVE LAYOUT and more (in answer to many questions, this is FrameMaker 12 by itself, with no plug-ins, and no assistance from RoboHelp 11 or Tech Comm Suite 5!) • 1 hour 36 min = Structure and FrameMaker XML Author 12 • 1 hour 50 min = MathML equations, including XML code view to edit • 1 hour 53 min = improved XML white space handling • 1 hour 57 min = Preview DITAMAP topic content • 12 min = user interface enhancements • 25 minutes = Regular Expressions used in Find/Change (e.g. reverse date format) • 28 min 44 sec = Generate QR code • 30 min 28 sec = background color on text level and boxed/colored paragraphs • 32 min 30 sec = improved Conditional Text control, new UI and complex expressions • 38 min 44 sec = enhanced Smart Catalogs with search/filter to narrow choices • 46 min = improved collaborative workflow with Dropbox integration and improved PDF review Many people emailed me after the webinar asking about our 40% discount offer. For a limited time, all existing customers of Adobe Technical Communication Suite, Adobe FrameMaker and Adobe RoboHelp are eligible to take advantage of this limited period promotional offer to purchase subscription licenses of Adobe Technical Communication Suite 5 at 40% off for an entire year. This would allow you to subscribe to the entire Tech Comm Suite 5 (FrameMaker 12, RoboHelp 11, Captivate 7, Acrobat Pro XI and Presenter 8) for only $29.99 per month, the same subscription price as FrameMaker. Subscriptions are now a 1 year commitment, though you are billed monthly. Perpetual (boxed DVD) licenses are still available. Here is the link to that promotion: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/promotions.html Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as hessian...@yahoo.com.mailto:hessian...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
RECORDING of What's new in FrameMaker 12 webinar from Jan 28 with time chart
Yesterday we had huge turnout at our first FrameMaker 12 webinar, which covered many significant new features. The session is 2 hours and 15 minutes long. I am posting info on how to access the recording and also some time stops you can fast forward to for specific features and areas that interest you the most. Here is the link to the recording: http://adobe.ly/1ibB3Ku (use your Adobe.com account credentials to log-in ... once you have you won't need to log-in again as long as browser instance is running.) If you are using Chrome, I recommend that you clear your cache and restart Chrome before viewing. Here are some key time stop points that will take you to major highlights of the presentation: * 1 hour 10 min = How to publish from FM12 to EPUB, HTML5 RESPONSIVE LAYOUT and more (in answer to many questions, this is FrameMaker 12 by itself, with no plug-ins, and no assistance from RoboHelp 11 or Tech Comm Suite 5!) * 1 hour 36 min = Structure and FrameMaker XML Author 12 * 1 hour 50 min = MathML equations, including XML code view to edit * 1 hour 53 min = improved XML white space handling * 1 hour 57 min = Preview DITAMAP topic content * 12 min = user interface enhancements * 25 minutes = Regular Expressions used in Find/Change (e.g. reverse date format) * 28 min 44 sec = Generate QR code * 30 min 28 sec = background color on text level and boxed/colored paragraphs * 32 min 30 sec = improved Conditional Text control, new UI and complex expressions * 38 min 44 sec = enhanced Smart Catalogs with search/filter to narrow choices * 46 min = improved collaborative workflow with Dropbox integration and improved PDF review Many people emailed me after the webinar asking about our 40% discount offer. For a limited time, all existing customers of Adobe Technical Communication Suite, Adobe FrameMaker and Adobe RoboHelp are eligible to take advantage of this limited period promotional offer to purchase subscription licenses of Adobe Technical Communication Suite 5 at 40% off for an entire year. This would allow you to subscribe to the entire Tech Comm Suite 5 (FrameMaker 12, RoboHelp 11, Captivate 7, Acrobat Pro XI and Presenter 8) for only $29.99 per month, the same subscription price as FrameMaker. Subscriptions are now a 1 year commitment, though you are billed monthly. Perpetual (boxed DVD) licenses are still available. Here is the link to that promotion: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/promotions.html Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Serious FrameMaker 12 Regular Expressions Bug
Hi Rick, Can you try the Remove Override option in the Change drop-down? I realize that this should not be required. But wondering whether this will work at least for now. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Framers, I discovered a bug with the newly released FrameMaker 12. If you Find/Change with Regular Expressions checked, any literal replacement text is always inserted as Times New Roman 12 point, regardless of the paragraph it is in. This is a pretty serious bug. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gapet...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gapeterb%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Serious FrameMaker 12 Regular Expressions Bug
Rick, Thanks for your feedback and bringing this issue to our attention. We are already working on finding a fix for this and we hope to include this in the next patch. In the meanwhile, you can continue to use regular expression for searching. We welcome yours and the community's additional feedback. Thanks, Kapil Verma Sr. Product Manager - Adobe Technical Communications Products O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:19 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Serious FrameMaker 12 Regular Expressions Bug Hi Framers, I discovered a bug with the newly released FrameMaker 12. If you Find/Change with Regular Expressions checked, any literal replacement text is always inserted as Times New Roman 12 point, regardless of the paragraph it is in. This is a pretty serious bug. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as kve...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kverma%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
I don't buy that at all. DITA has major costs that are not offset unless you have substantial opportunities for reuse and publish in multiple languages. There's no rational reason to spend money on low-value upgrades. Do a cost-benefit analysis and know what you're paying for. At one old job we were using FM6. We looked at 7.0, 7.1, and 7.2, nobody thought they were worth the cost. FrameMaker's major competition is Flare, which does a pretty good job of importing FM files. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Roger Shuttleworth shutti...@gmail.com wrote: All the complaints about prices, pricing models, low-value releases, poor documentation, etc. constitute a very cogent argument for structured authoring and XML, with its independence of proprietary tools. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
Adobe says it supports DocBook and various other things besides DITA: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemakerxmlauthor/features.html On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Bernard Gagne bernyga...@rogers.com wrote: That's great as long as you use DITA. We use DocBook so FrameMaker XML Author (which should more appropriately be called FrameMaker DITA Author) is useless. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
Adobe also says it does not support DocBook: http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/framemakerxmlauthor/faq.html (see What is the difference ...) On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Adobe says it supports DocBook and various other things besides DITA: http://www.adobe.com/products/framemakerxmlauthor/features.html On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Bernard Gagne bernyga...@rogers.com wrote: That's great as long as you use DITA. We use DocBook so FrameMaker XML Author (which should more appropriately be called FrameMaker DITA Author) is useless. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Serious FrameMaker 12 Regular Expressions Bug
Hi Framers, I discovered a bug with the newly released FrameMaker 12. If you Find/Change with Regular Expressions checked, any literal replacement text is always inserted as Times New Roman 12 point, regardless of the paragraph it is in. This is a pretty serious bug. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
That's great as long as you use DITA. We use DocBook so FrameMaker XML Author (which should more appropriately be called FrameMaker DITA Author) is useless. Oxygen and XMetal have nothing to fear. Berny Gagne Senior Technical Writer Siemens Canada On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:28:02 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: My guess is Adobe's goal in creating FrameMaker XML Author and pricing it at $400 is to eliminate the cost savings incentive for structured FrameMaker users to switch to Oxygen or XMetal instead of adding more FM seats. Also, at $400, I doubt if FrameMaker XML Author is going to be able to compete with other XML editors out there. The idea is fantastic, but the cost needs to be around $100-150 a seat. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernyga...@rogers.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FREE TC CAMP Sat 25 Jan workshop Santa Clara, CA; world premiere live demo FrameMaker 12
Last CalL! TC Camp is TOMORROW at Mission College in Santa Clara, CA. TC Camp Exclusive: See Adobe's TCS5 in person and maybe win a subscription! TC Camp, the unconference for content creators, consumers, and the people who support them, is happening at Mission College in Santa Clara on Saturday 25 January 2014. I don't know if you've been to an unconference before, but they are very different from regular conferences. They are not juried. Sessions aren't presenter-decided topics. It's much more fluid and much more audience decided. All session topics are decided by the attendees on the day of the event. Everyone nominates topics; we vote on them together; and then, those sessions with enough votes get scheduled into the agenda. You can guarantee there is always a session happening that you're interested in. Unconferences are all hallway - like the hallway conversations you have between session at regular conferences. At an Unconference, you get the chance to work with other people to really wrap your arms around a topic and figure it out as it applies directly to you. The main unconference (afternoon) is Free. We have an expert panel to kick things off which Scott Abel is moderating. If you're interested, there are morning workshops that cost a modest $30. The workshops happen in the morning before the main unconference starts. There are 6 morning workshops to choose from that will help get the creative juices flowing: * Structured Authoring - lessons learned from the pioneers. Tracy Baker (F5), Wendy Shaffer and Amy Bowman (VMWare) will be giving advice for people learning DITA. All three of them were early DITA adopters and learned by fire. They are passing on their lessons learned so you can benefit from their experience. * Analytics - learn how to apply and interpret analytics to improve your content. You have a chance to hear from analytics folks (marketing folks) about some of the secrets of SEO and using analytics, it's a great opportunity. * Content Strategy - Strategy from the outside (your customer's side). Pam Noreault (ACI Worldwide) and Chip Gettinger (SDL) are presenting about thinking strategically about xml publishing projects. It's lessons learned, but from a manager's perspective. Pam's done it twice, and the second time she decided to rearchitect content from the Customer's Perspective. This is absolutely going to be a great session. * Responsive Design - learn how to improve your authoring so your content looks good anywhere. Mike Hamilton, from MadCap Software, will explain and show techniques for authoring and delivering of content that responds to the user needs whether they be handheld, mobile, or full screen PC so that it not only works from a responsive design standpoint, but increases usability and customer satisfaction. * Content Quality - improve authoring and publishing efficiency and the experience of your users. Doug Gorman from SimplyXML is talking about how to improve authoring efficiency, publishing efficiency, re-usability, and the experience of your information consumers. His workshop is doctype and tool-independent because these lessons apply universally. * Adobe - all about TCS5! This will be the first public showing of TCS5! Max Hoffmann will be here to give the world premiere demo of the product that was released on Tuesday this week It's an amazing experience - energetic, dynamic, and all about the attendees learning from each other. If you want to see what someone from the SF STC had to say about last year, he wrote up a review here for their December Newsletter: http://www.stc-sf.org/newsletter/2013-dec/tc_camp_2.html For more information about this year's event, the detail page is here: http://www.tccamp.org/2013/11/tccamp-2014/ I hope that we'll see you there! On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.comwrote: For any list members in the SF Bay Area, you have an opportunity to see the first live public demo of FrameMaker 12 this Saturday, Jan 25 at 8:45 AM, in a TC Camp workshop I’m giving at Mission College, Santa Clara. The free workshop is courtesy of Adobe’s sponsorship of TC Camp. Other portions of the TC Camp later in the day require a modest fee; I attended last year and can highly recommend it. I hope to see some of you early Saturday morning when I will be sharing new features in Tech Comm Suite 5, FrameMaker 12, FrameMaker XML Author 12 and RoboHelp 11. Information on the session, with a link to register may be found at: http://bit.ly/1cWFVh6 * -- * *Maxwell Hoffmann* | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com *http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann* http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann* - **http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann*http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann* blogs.adobe.com/techcomm http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm* *Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI