Re: Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Rogers

Peter Rule wrote:


You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and
the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no
effect on the paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.



You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to 
suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the 
mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity 
enormously over time.


For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your 
copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just 
to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too 
-- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext.


HTH,

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Rule

-Original message-
From: "Peter Rule" li...@indite.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000
To: "Fred Ridder" docudoc at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else).  

You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, 
otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the 
paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.

Cheers,

Pete


-Original message-
From: "Fred Ridder" docu...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000
To: kethier at travelthepath.com
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

> Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
> Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.
> 
> Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
> and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
> content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
> an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
> the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.
> 
> The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
> affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
> paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
> The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
> use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
> of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
> is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
> list.
> The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
> items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
> the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
> to use Paste Special as often.
> 
> It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
> version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
> useless on that platform.
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> >From: "Sales at Bright Path" 
> >Reply-To: kethier at travelthepath.com
> >To: "'Peter Rule'" ,
> >Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400
> >
> >Hi Pete:
> >
> >This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install
> >folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
> >like Notepad and edit it.
> >
> >By moving TEXT to the start of the line:
> >
> >ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
> >
> >you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
> >as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >
> >Kay
> >
> >PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.
> >
> >.K.
> >
> >
> >Kay Ethier
> >Senior Trainer & Consultant
> >Bright Path Solutions
> >FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Peter Rule
> >
> >Hello framers,
> >
> >Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
> >"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
> >would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Pete
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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Peter Rule wrote:

> You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and
> the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no
> effect on the paste special order in this context.
> 
> Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.
> 

You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to 
suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the 
mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity 
enormously over time.

For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your 
copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just 
to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too 
-- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The Alt key is your friend."


Get Firefox!
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Fw: RE: paste special ...text option

2006-10-10 Thread Peter Rule

-Original message-
From: Peter Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000
To: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else).  

You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, 
otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the 
paste special order in this context.

Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click.

Cheers,

Pete


-Original message-
From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paste special ...text option

 Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee,
 Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs.
 
 Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog,
 and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting
 content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from
 an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard,
 the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list.
 
 The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only
 affects pasting from the Windows clipboard.  It does *not* affect the
 paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file.
 The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to
 use Paste Special.  And that's why Peter wants to change the order
 of items in that dialog's list.  Unfortunately, I don't believe that there
 is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive 
 list.
 The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of
 items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of
 the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have
 to use Paste Special as often.
 
 It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac
 version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is
 useless on that platform.
 
 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsippany, NJ
 
 From: Sales at Bright Path [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Peter Rule' [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: paste special ...text option
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400
 
 Hi Pete:
 
 This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install
 folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
 like Notepad and edit it.
 
 By moving TEXT to the start of the line:
 
 ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
 
 you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
 as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Kay
 
 PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.
 
 .K.
 
 
 Kay Ethier
 Senior Trainer  Consultant
 Bright Path Solutions
 FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Rule
 
 Hello framers,
 
 Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the
 paste-special option box.  text is currently third in the list and I
 would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pete
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