Help with footnote numbers
Tina, I will not repeat what others have already suggested, but in addition to that, you always have the option of applying a Character Format (Tag) to your footnotes or parts of them. Bodvar On 8/27/07, Tina Ricks wrote: > I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference > is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body > is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. > > > > I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote > Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference > (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the > reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from > the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply > a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character > styles don't seem to have any effect. > > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > > > > Tina > > > > tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina, I will not repeat what others have already suggested, but in addition to that, you always have the option of applying a Character Format (Tag) to your footnotes or parts of them. Bodvar On 8/27/07, Tina Ricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference > is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body > is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. > > > > I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote > Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference > (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the > reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from > the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply > a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character > styles don't seem to have any effect. > > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > > > > Tina > > > > tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Help with footnote numbers
Tina, You set the size of the footnote reference in Format>Document>Text Options. This dialog allows you to set the size of superscripted text in relation to the associated body text. Ron >Message: 20 >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:58:34 -0700 >From: "Tina Ricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Help with footnote numbers >To: >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference >is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body >is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. >I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote >Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference >(in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the >reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from >the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply >a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character >styles don't seem to have any effect. >Any ideas? Thanks in advance. >Tina >tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of Framers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26 *** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: > I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference > is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body > is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. > > > > I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote > Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference > (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the > reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from > the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply > a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character > styles don't seem to have any effect. > Size of Footnote references is governed by two things: the size of the default font defined in the pgf tag containing the reference, and the Format > Document > Text Options percentage for superscripts. Lower that percentage, and (all) your superscripts will shrink. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." ? from a foreign sales contract
Help with footnote numbers
Tina, You set the size of the footnote reference in Format>Document>Text Options. This dialog allows you to set the size of superscripted text in relation to the associated body text. Ron >Message: 20 >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:58:34 -0700 >From: "Tina Ricks" >Subject: Help with footnote numbers >To: >Message-ID: <001f01c7e8f5$6a9b9080$0201a8c0 at D3NVXM81> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference >is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body >is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. >I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote >Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference >(in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the >reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from >the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply >a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character >styles don't seem to have any effect. >Any ideas? Thanks in advance. >Tina >tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of Framers Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26 ***
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Size of Footnote references is governed by two things: the size of the default font defined in the pgf tag containing the reference, and the Format > Document > Text Options percentage for superscripts. Lower that percentage, and (all) your superscripts will shrink. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods." — from a foreign sales contract ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: "I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. " No, the reference numeral's attributes in the main text are controlled by the default font settings of the paragraph in the main text. Change the default font to a dingbat font and you'll see what I mean -- it's independent of what you choose for the text of the footnote So far as I know -- I'd love to learn I'm wrong -- the only way to change the number's attributes is to change the default font attributes in the Para Designer. In your case, set the default para fontsize to 9 points, apply, and the footnote reference number will shrink too. But, you say, I don't want the regular text of the body paragraph to be 9 points. Solution: override. I did this with a book I prepared proofs of a couple of years ago. I wanted old-style figures for the footnote reference numbers in the main text and at the start of the footnote. So I made an "Expert variant" format for every type of paragraph in the main text that could have a footnote number in it, and made Kepler Expert the default for the footnote text paragraph. Then I created two formats for overriding the unwanted Expert (i.e., all characters except the reference numbers), one to use in footnotes and one to use in body text. This is not as painful as it sounds, unless you're changing a paragraph that's already been done in the old format, and it already contains a variety of Character Format overrides, as mine often did (math symbolism). Applying the format to change all the text in Expert (small caps for letters) back to the standard one overrides those other overrides if you apply it to all the paratext -- so either you do that, then go back and restore the original overrides, or else you apply the "regular text" override to segments between original character overrides. It's a whole lot better if you can anticipate in advance if your para is going to have a footnote in it, set the variant format, type space at the end, then start typing ahead of the space with the special override applied. But a lot of the time you can't anticipate this. For at least 14 years people have been asking the owners of FrameMaker to fix the many problems with the footnoting facility, some of which require workarounds even uglier than the above. Don't hold your breath. Graeme Forbes
Re: Help with footnote numbers
Tina Ricks wrote: "I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. " No, the reference numeral's attributes in the main text are controlled by the default font settings of the paragraph in the main text. Change the default font to a dingbat font and you'll see what I mean -- it's independent of what you choose for the text of the footnote So far as I know -- I'd love to learn I'm wrong -- the only way to change the number's attributes is to change the default font attributes in the Para Designer. In your case, set the default para fontsize to 9 points, apply, and the footnote reference number will shrink too. But, you say, I don't want the regular text of the body paragraph to be 9 points. Solution: override. I did this with a book I prepared proofs of a couple of years ago. I wanted old-style figures for the footnote reference numbers in the main text and at the start of the footnote. So I made an "Expert variant" format for every type of paragraph in the main text that could have a footnote number in it, and made Kepler Expert the default for the footnote text paragraph. Then I created two formats for overriding the unwanted Expert (i.e., all characters except the reference numbers), one to use in footnotes and one to use in body text. This is not as painful as it sounds, unless you're changing a paragraph that's already been done in the old format, and it already contains a variety of Character Format overrides, as mine often did (math symbolism). Applying the format to change all the text in Expert (small caps for letters) back to the standard one overrides those other overrides if you apply it to all the paratext -- so either you do that, then go back and restore the original overrides, or else you apply the "regular text" override to segments between original character overrides. It's a whole lot better if you can anticipate in advance if your para is going to have a footnote in it, set the variant format, type space at the end, then start typing ahead of the space with the special override applied. But a lot of the time you can't anticipate this. For at least 14 years people have been asking the owners of FrameMaker to fix the many problems with the footnoting facility, some of which require workarounds even uglier than the above. Don't hold your breath. Graeme Forbes ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233
