Re: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
I believe there is no real support for Swedish, is it (I forget, as I have not used FM8 since Beta testing)? Did you try to set the language to None for the paragraph tags? After that you can manually hyphenate. I tried running Dashes Pro on rtf files and it worked except that their support for Icelandic was not acceptable. You can try the Swedish version, maybe that one is OK. Then import the rtf into FM8 (with all paragraph tags set to language None), and it should be OK. Unless, of course, that FM8 should not recognize a-umlaut as a regular character and mistake it for some kind of space or punctuation as it does with eth and thorn. What Dashes Pro does is basically to insert soft hyphens everywhere allowed. Not nice to have all the extra characters, but an OK workaround -- if it plays by the rules of the language. There is a 30 day full trial on it. Really funny that Adobe does not support more languages in FM which originates with the UNIX environment where you have both aspell and ispell to work from. Both have excellent support for most languages. Both have been GPL (General Public License) for a long time, but maybe Adobe thinks that is stooping too low? Also Adobe have much better language support in InDesign, but then, Adobe and Adobe, are they really the same company after all? Often it really does seem they are not. Bodvar On 10/1/07, Rolf Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, Advanced tab, like Shortest prefix/suffix are ignored. Any work-around or other settings to do? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slöjdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SV: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
Thanks for your answer! There has been a Swedish dictionary since version 2.1 (at least) and all previous versions of FrameMaker works as expected. Setting the language to None and hyphenate manually is a work-around, but not acceptable if you have thousands of pages. And, on the other hand, the Spelling checker will not work if you don't set a language. It seems to me this is a major bug? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slöjdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 2 oktober 2007 11:42 Till: Rolf Clausen Kopia: framers@lists.frameusers.com Ämne: Re: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8 I believe there is no real support for Swedish, is it (I forget, as I have not used FM8 since Beta testing)? Did you try to set the language to None for the paragraph tags? After that you can manually hyphenate. I tried running Dashes Pro on rtf files and it worked except that their support for Icelandic was not acceptable. You can try the Swedish version, maybe that one is OK. Then import the rtf into FM8 (with all paragraph tags set to language None), and it should be OK. Unless, of course, that FM8 should not recognize a-umlaut as a regular character and mistake it for some kind of space or punctuation as it does with eth and thorn. What Dashes Pro does is basically to insert soft hyphens everywhere allowed. Not nice to have all the extra characters, but an OK workaround -- if it plays by the rules of the language. There is a 30 day full trial on it. Really funny that Adobe does not support more languages in FM which originates with the UNIX environment where you have both aspell and ispell to work from. Both have excellent support for most languages. Both have been GPL (General Public License) for a long time, but maybe Adobe thinks that is stooping too low? Also Adobe have much better language support in InDesign, but then, Adobe and Adobe, are they really the same company after all? Often it really does seem they are not. Bodvar On 10/1/07, Rolf Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, Advanced tab, like Shortest prefix/suffix are ignored. Any work-around or other settings to do? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slöjdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
I believe there is no real support for Swedish, is it (I forget, as I have not used FM8 since Beta testing)? Did you try to set the language to "None" for the paragraph tags? After that you can manually hyphenate. I tried running Dashes Pro on rtf files and it worked except that their support for Icelandic was not acceptable. You can try the Swedish version, maybe that one is OK. Then import the rtf into FM8 (with all paragraph tags set to language "None"), and it should be OK. Unless, of course, that FM8 should not recognize "a-umlaut" as a regular character and mistake it for some kind of space or punctuation as it does with "eth" and "thorn". What Dashes Pro does is basically to insert soft hyphens everywhere allowed. Not nice to have all the extra characters, but an OK workaround -- if it plays by the rules of the language. There is a 30 day full trial on it. Really funny that Adobe does not support more languages in FM which originates with the UNIX environment where you have both aspell and ispell to work from. Both have excellent support for most languages. Both have been GPL (General Public License) for a long time, but maybe Adobe thinks that is stooping too low? Also Adobe have much better language support in InDesign, but then, Adobe and Adobe, are they really the same company after all? Often it really does seem they are not. Bodvar On 10/1/07, Rolf Clausen wrote: > We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker > 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, > Advanced tab, like "Shortest prefix/suffix" are ignored. > > Any work-around or other settings to do? > > /Rolf > > -- > Rolf Clausen > Mallverkstan AB E-mail: rolf at mallverkstan.se > Sl?jdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 > SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 > SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se > -- > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
SV: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
Thanks for your answer! There has been a Swedish dictionary since version 2.1 (at least) and all previous versions of FrameMaker works as expected. Setting the language to "None" and hyphenate manually is a work-around, but not acceptable if you have thousands of pages. And, on the other hand, the Spelling checker will not work if you don't set a language. It seems to me this is a major bug? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: rolf at mallverkstan.se Sl?jdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- -Ursprungligt meddelande- Fr?n: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bodvar at gmail.com] Skickat: den 2 oktober 2007 11:42 Till: Rolf Clausen Kopia: framers at lists.frameusers.com ?mne: Re: Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8 I believe there is no real support for Swedish, is it (I forget, as I have not used FM8 since Beta testing)? Did you try to set the language to "None" for the paragraph tags? After that you can manually hyphenate. I tried running Dashes Pro on rtf files and it worked except that their support for Icelandic was not acceptable. You can try the Swedish version, maybe that one is OK. Then import the rtf into FM8 (with all paragraph tags set to language "None"), and it should be OK. Unless, of course, that FM8 should not recognize "a-umlaut" as a regular character and mistake it for some kind of space or punctuation as it does with "eth" and "thorn". What Dashes Pro does is basically to insert soft hyphens everywhere allowed. Not nice to have all the extra characters, but an OK workaround -- if it plays by the rules of the language. There is a 30 day full trial on it. Really funny that Adobe does not support more languages in FM which originates with the UNIX environment where you have both aspell and ispell to work from. Both have excellent support for most languages. Both have been GPL (General Public License) for a long time, but maybe Adobe thinks that is stooping too low? Also Adobe have much better language support in InDesign, but then, Adobe and Adobe, are they really the same company after all? Often it really does seem they are not. Bodvar On 10/1/07, Rolf Clausen wrote: > We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker > 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, > Advanced tab, like "Shortest prefix/suffix" are ignored. > > Any work-around or other settings to do? > > /Rolf > > -- > Rolf Clausen > Mallverkstan AB E-mail: rolf at mallverkstan.se > Sl?jdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 > SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 > SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se > -- > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, Advanced tab, like Shortest prefix/suffix are ignored. Any work-around or other settings to do? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slöjdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Hyphenation in Swedish FM 8
We have discovered that hyphenation in Swedish does not work in FrameMaker 8.0. Words are randomly hyphenated and all settings in Paragraph Designer, Advanced tab, like "Shortest prefix/suffix" are ignored. Any work-around or other settings to do? /Rolf -- Rolf Clausen Mallverkstan AB E-mail: rolf at mallverkstan.se Sl?jdgatan 2Phone: +46 46 23 52 50 SE-227 36 LUND Fax: +46 46 23 52 51 SWEDEN http://www.mallverkstan.se --