Indexes - a bit off topic
ASI may have an official document out supporting indexes and differentiating between indexes and indices, but with all due respect, there is nothing wrong with using "indices" in any context. I have seen no dictionary or language authority that makes a differentiation in definition between the spellings. Secondly playing the grammarian on an e-mail list is usually bad netiquette. It's particularly fraught with danger when the audience of the list is international. The opinions of the ASI may carry little to no weight with the British, Canadian , or other equivalent national bodies. Just as the "preferred" spelling in dictionaries is more dependant on the nationality/locale of the publisher than it is of "correct" usage. Further more, their power over the individual is non-existent. As their opinions carry no weight out side their own organisations, no matter how they may pretend otherwise. I won't argue the pluses or minuses of "-exes" or "-ices". Only that I use "-ices" and try to spell consistently using "-our" and not simply "-or" except when writing for an American audience. When reading, I will flinch at neither. As long as the document is consistent in its usage. Just as the thread was progressing happily with both accepted and valid spellings without complaint. I also endeavour to teach my children to use kid, calf, gosling, chick, et al instead of baby . Same goes for murder, gaggle, and flock. Even if one day these usages/terms all fall from "preferred" dictionary status. Let's go back to discussing FrameMaker please... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ppresley at sbcglobal.net wrote on 09/27/2006 10:07:41 AM: > As a member of the American Society of Indexers (ASI), > I have to put in a plug for the word "indexes." > > This is the preferred spelling in most dictionaries > for the lists of terms with locators that are found, > ususally, in the backs of books. ASI also promotes the > use of "indexes" as the plural of "index." > > Likewise for appendix/appendixes. > > "Indices" is used by financial and meteorlogical > folks. I don't remember who uses "appendices" except > my colleagues who are thoroughly familiar with church > Latin. ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou prot?g?s et est destin? ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez re?u par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et d?truire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilis?e afin d'assurer la s?curit? de nos systems d'information et qu'elle fur?tera les courriels entrant. Merci. _
Indexes - a bit off topic
Not very. The dictionaries I have consulted (Webster's, American Heritage, and MS Encarta) all show "appendixes" as the preferred spelling, with "appendices" as an acceptable alternate spelling. The same applies to "indexes" and "indices". There is no differentiation offered in meaning between the two spellings. FWIW, Chuck -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:02 PM To: ppresley at sbcglobal.net Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Charles.Beck at infor.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charles.beck%40infor .com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexes - a bit off topic
ASI may have an official document out supporting indexes and differentiating between indexes and indices, but with all due respect, there is nothing wrong with using "indices" in any context. I have seen no dictionary or language authority that makes a differentiation in definition between the spellings. Secondly playing the grammarian on an e-mail list is usually bad netiquette. It's particularly fraught with danger when the audience of the list is international. The opinions of the ASI may carry little to no weight with the British, Canadian , or other equivalent national bodies. Just as the "preferred" spelling in dictionaries is more dependant on the nationality/locale of the publisher than it is of "correct" usage. Further more, their power over the individual is non-existent. As their opinions carry no weight out side their own organisations, no matter how they may pretend otherwise. I won't argue the pluses or minuses of "-exes" or "-ices". Only that I use "-ices" and try to spell consistently using "-our" and not simply "-or" except when writing for an American audience. When reading, I will flinch at neither. As long as the document is consistent in its usage. Just as the thread was progressing happily with both accepted and valid spellings without complaint. I also endeavour to teach my children to use kid, calf, gosling, chick, et al instead of baby . Same goes for murder, gaggle, and flock. Even if one day these usages/terms all fall from "preferred" dictionary status. Let's go back to discussing FrameMaker please... Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/27/2006 10:07:41 AM: > As a member of the American Society of Indexers (ASI), > I have to put in a plug for the word "indexes." > > This is the preferred spelling in most dictionaries > for the lists of terms with locators that are found, > ususally, in the backs of books. ASI also promotes the > use of "indexes" as the plural of "index." > > Likewise for appendix/appendixes. > > "Indices" is used by financial and meteorlogical > folks. I don't remember who uses "appendices" except > my colleagues who are thoroughly familiar with church > Latin. ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Indexes - a bit off topic
Not very. The dictionaries I have consulted (Webster's, American Heritage, and MS Encarta) all show "appendixes" as the preferred spelling, with "appendices" as an acceptable alternate spelling. The same applies to "indexes" and "indices". There is no differentiation offered in meaning between the two spellings. FWIW, Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charles.beck%40infor .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexes - a bit off topic
Is the list in Jeopardy mode now? This post seems to be the question to an unsolicited answer that was posted by Paula Pressley this morning. >From: Pat Christenson >To: ppresley at sbcglobal.net >CC: framers at frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:01:44 -0700 > >I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book >appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in >your body. > >I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. > >Pat > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ The next generation of Search?say hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG
Indexes - a bit off topic
Fred Ridder wrote: > Is the list in Jeopardy mode now? > > This post seems to be the question to an unsolicited answer > that was posted by Paula Pressley this morning. I'll take "Approaching Friday" for $300, Fred! ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: Indexes - a bit off topic
Fred Ridder wrote: > Is the list in Jeopardy mode now? > > This post seems to be the question to an unsolicited answer > that was posted by Paula Pressley this morning. I'll take "Approaching Friday" for $300, Fred! ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexes - a bit off topic
Is the list in Jeopardy mode now? This post seems to be the question to an unsolicited answer that was posted by Paula Pressley this morning. From: Pat Christenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:01:44 -0700 I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ The next generation of Searchsay hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&FORM=WLMTAG ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Indexes - a bit off topic
Hate to say it, but according to both Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary and the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), "appendix" is pluralized using either "-ices" or "-ixes," regardless of definition. Popular usage and preference may dictate differently, but the English language does not differentiate. Cheers! Nicole -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexes - a bit off topic
Hate to say it, but according to both Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary and the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), "appendix" is pluralized using either "-ices" or "-ixes," regardless of definition. Popular usage and preference may dictate differently, but the English language does not differentiate. Cheers! Nicole -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers .com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:02 PM To: ppresley at sbcglobal.net Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexes - a bit off topic I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat
Re: Indexes - a bit off topic
I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexes - a bit off topic
I was recently told by an editor that the plural of appendix (a book appendix) is appendixes. Appendices is the plural of appendix, the organ in your body. I've never heard that before and wonder how true it is. Pat
Indexes - a bit off topic
As a member of the American Society of Indexers (ASI), I have to put in a plug for the word "indexes." This is the preferred spelling in most dictionaries for the lists of terms with locators that are found, ususally, in the backs of books. ASI also promotes the use of "indexes" as the plural of "index." Likewise for appendix/appendixes. "Indices" is used by financial and meteorlogical folks. I don't remember who uses "appendices" except my colleagues who are thoroughly familiar with church Latin. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexes - a bit off topic
As a member of the American Society of Indexers (ASI), I have to put in a plug for the word "indexes." This is the preferred spelling in most dictionaries for the lists of terms with locators that are found, ususally, in the backs of books. ASI also promotes the use of "indexes" as the plural of "index." Likewise for appendix/appendixes. "Indices" is used by financial and meteorlogical folks. I don't remember who uses "appendices" except my colleagues who are thoroughly familiar with church Latin.
