FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn.  This helps a lot.

Diane

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From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers
Subject: Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth
the money?)


At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise,
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development,
and training
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RE: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-22 Thread Diane Gaskill
Thank you very much Lynn.  This helps a lot.

Diane

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; Frame Users; Free Framers
Subject: Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth
the money?)


At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise,
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development,
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284

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Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website 
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later 
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious 
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a 
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, 
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1 
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you 
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own 
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the 
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the 
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want 
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 

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FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website 
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later 
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious 
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a 
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, 
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1 
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you 
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own 
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the 
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the 
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want 
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 



Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Hedley Finger

Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
useful functionality added that makes it must have?

Regards,
Hedley

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FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi folks,

Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website about 
this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later than 4.2?  
FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious limitations.  
Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a contract to provide 
OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, we'd never have used DB 
at all. 

Thanks,
Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:49 PM
To: Writer
Cc: Frame Users; Frame Users; Free Framers
Subject: Re: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?


Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual

Regards,

Peter
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote:
> If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're
> authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.
>
> Nadine
>
> Hedley Finger wrote:
>> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is
>> worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a
>> bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly
>> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
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FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi folks,

Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website about 
this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later than 4.2?  
FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious limitations.  
Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a contract to provide 
OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, we'd never have used DB 
at all. 

Thanks,
Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
=

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:49 PM
To: Writer
Cc: Frame Users; Frame Users; Free Framers
Subject: Re: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?


Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual

Regards,

Peter
__
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KnowHow ProServices



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote:
> If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're
> authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.
>
> Nadine
>
> Hedley Finger wrote:
>> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is
>> worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a
>> bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly
>> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
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Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Cathy Arthur
Hi,

We upgraded because of the free SDL AuthorAssistant, which we are using
to improve both consistency and readability in our docs. We are too
small for an editor at this time. 

We are a group of 5, and everyone here likes the new interface. We use
both structured and unstructured docs, but not DITA. There have been no
issues with either format.  

Cathy Arthur

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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:03 PM
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Subject: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?


Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
useful functionality added that makes it must have?

Regards,
Hedley

--

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Tel: +61 3 9809 1229   Fax: (call phone first)
Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558   Skype: hedley.finger
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RE: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Cathy Arthur
Hi,

We upgraded because of the free SDL AuthorAssistant, which we are using
to improve both consistency and readability in our docs. We are too
small for an editor at this time. 

We are a group of 5, and everyone here likes the new interface. We use
both structured and unstructured docs, but not DITA. There have been no
issues with either format.  

Cathy Arthur

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From: Hedley Finger [mailto:hfin...@handholding.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:03 PM
To: Free Framers; Frame Users; Frame Users
Subject: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?


Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
useful functionality added that makes it must have?

Regards,
Hedley

--

Hedley Finger

28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel: +61 3 9809 1229   Fax: (call phone first)
Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558   Skype: hedley.finger
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Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-17 Thread Writer
If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're 
authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.

Nadine

Hedley Finger wrote:
> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
> worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
> bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
>
> Regards,
> Hedley
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Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Gold
Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote:
> If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're
> authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.
>
> Nadine
>
> Hedley Finger wrote:
>> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is
>> worth upgrading from FM8? ?I downloaded the trial and played with it a
>> bit and like the new menus. ?But was any substantially or even slightly
>> useful functionality added that makes it must have?


Re: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Gold
Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual

Regards,

Peter
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KnowHow ProServices



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote:
> If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're
> authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.
>
> Nadine
>
> Hedley Finger wrote:
>> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is
>> worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a
>> bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly
>> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
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Re: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-17 Thread Writer
If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're 
authoring in unstructured, I would say meh.

Nadine

Hedley Finger wrote:
> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
> worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
> bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
>
> Regards,
> Hedley
>
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Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-17 Thread Hedley Finger

Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is 
worth upgrading from FM8?  I downloaded the trial and played with it a 
bit and like the new menus.  But was any substantially or even slightly 
useful functionality added that makes it must have?

Regards,
Hedley

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