Key combo for Keep with Next?
Jenny, You wrote: >One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. >Is there a key combination to perform this task? > >I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key >combinations, but didn't see this one. -- adding to the fine suggestions made by Rick Quatro and Matt Sullivan -- The "keep with next pgf" property does not have a built-in shortcut (and as far as I know it cannot be assigned a custom one). However, if you happen to have FrameScript, you can easily set-up a shortcut which turns this property on, or toggles its current state (I will gladly send you the necessary script/instructions, if needed). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" web-based training sessions
Key combo for Keep with Next?
Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Jenny Greenleaf wrote: > One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. > Is there a key combination to perform this task? > > I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key > combinations, but didn't see this one. > > I'm using Frame 9. > > Thanks! > > Jenny > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Key combo for Keep with Next?
Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to > the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a > shortcut key for. Actually, it *is* the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for, but apparently didn't. There are shortcuts for placing a pgf at top of: Page (Esc j P) Column (Esc j C) Left Page (Esc j L) Right page (Esc j R) and for aligning: centre (Esc j c) left (Esc j l) right (Esc j r) full (Esc j f) -- all of which are overrides. But oddly, there doesn't seem to be a shortcut for Keep With Next. Not that it matters to me. I don't use overrides except in one-offs like brochure layouts; they cause too much trouble in books. best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 "He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand your words." -- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)
Key combo for Keep with Next?
You can look for keystroke commands in the *.cfg files in your FrameMaker installation directory. There may be one for applying Keep With Next Paragraph. You can learn about customizing these files here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/pdfs/Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf If it's not available through a customized menu, and you don't want to use a dedicated paragraph format, you can try a kludge like this: NOTE: Tap the keys in order, one by one. Case is important. NOTE: ! means the Escape key ! o p d (opens paragraph designer with the current paragraph style active) Page Down or Page Up to the Pagination properties panel of the designer Tab through the panel to the Keep With area and select the Next option Tab through the panel to Apply (not Update All) It's probably more work than you'd like. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to > the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a > shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding > a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define > it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text > to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you > could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style.
Key combo for Keep with Next?
... and if you get into the paragraph designer, but you want to jump back to your active document without making changes, press SHIFT+F7. This will work from most FrameMaker dialogs. I hope they haven't changed any of these for FM 9. Ian Ian Hawkins wrote: > Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier > than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the > right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER. > >
Key combo for Keep with Next?
As others have said, there isn't a key combination that will do this directly. However, you can ease the pain a little. - Type either CTRL+M (single key combination) or ESC o p d (four separate characters) to open the paragraph designer. - Select the Pagination tab. If you are doing a lot of this, just leave the paragraph designer open on that tab. - Type ALT+n to toggle the Next Pgf selection. - By default, the Apply button should be active, with a bold outline. If so, press ENTER. Otherwise press ALT+a. Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER. Ian
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
... and if you get into the paragraph designer, but you want to jump back to your active document without making changes, press SHIFT+F7. This will work from most FrameMaker dialogs. I hope they haven't changed any of these for FM 9. Ian Ian Hawkins wrote: > Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier > than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the > right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
As others have said, there isn't a key combination that will do this directly. However, you can ease the pain a little. - Type either CTRL+M (single key combination) or ESC o p d (four separate characters) to open the paragraph designer. - Select the Pagination tab. If you are doing a lot of this, just leave the paragraph designer open on that tab. - Type ALT+n to toggle the Next Pgf selection. - By default, the Apply button should be active, with a bold outline. If so, press ENTER. Otherwise press ALT+a. Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER. Ian ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to > the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a > shortcut key for. Actually, it *is* the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for, but apparently didn't. There are shortcuts for placing a pgf at top of: Page (Esc j P) Column (Esc j C) Left Page (Esc j L) Right page (Esc j R) and for aligning: centre (Esc j c) left (Esc j l) right (Esc j r) full (Esc j f) -- all of which are overrides. But oddly, there doesn't seem to be a shortcut for Keep With Next. Not that it matters to me. I don't use overrides except in one-offs like brochure layouts; they cause too much trouble in books. best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 "He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand your words." -- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
You can look for keystroke commands in the *.cfg files in your FrameMaker installation directory. There may be one for applying Keep With Next Paragraph. You can learn about customizing these files here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/pdfs/Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf If it's not available through a customized menu, and you don't want to use a dedicated paragraph format, you can try a kludge like this: NOTE: Tap the keys in order, one by one. Case is important. NOTE: ! means the Escape key ! o p d (opens paragraph designer with the current paragraph style active) Page Down or Page Up to the Pagination properties panel of the designer Tab through the panel to the Keep With area and select the Next option Tab through the panel to Apply (not Update All) It's probably more work than you'd like. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to > the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a > shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding > a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define > it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text > to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you > could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
Jenny, You wrote: >One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. >Is there a key combination to perform this task? > >I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key >combinations, but didn't see this one. -- adding to the fine suggestions made by Rick Quatro and Matt Sullivan -- The "keep with next pgf" property does not have a built-in shortcut (and as far as I know it cannot be assigned a custom one). However, if you happen to have FrameScript, you can easily set-up a shortcut which turns this property on, or toggles its current state (I will gladly send you the necessary script/instructions, if needed). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" web-based training sessions ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?
Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Jenny Greenleaf wrote: > One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. > Is there a key combination to perform this task? > > I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key > combinations, but didn't see this one. > > I'm using Frame 9. > > Thanks! > > Jenny > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmue...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Key combo for Keep with Next?
Hi Jenny, If you prefer to control settings like this with a small, floating palette, see my PageBreaks plugin at http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/pagebreaks/index.htm Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com www.frameexpert.com One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny
RE: Key combo for Keep with Next?
I don't know the key combo, as I try to keep para format overrides out of my doc's at all costs. I'd recommend a "Body (Keep with Next)" tag & apply as needed. I rely quite heavily on the ability to import formats & remove overrides, so anything put in manually would be erased on each such import. -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@grafixtraining.com www.grafixtraining.com office 714 960-6840 cell & txt 714 585-2335 sms message skype: mattrsullivan twitter: mattrsullivan linkedin facebook -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Greenleaf Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:10 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Key combo for Keep with Next? One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Key combo for Keep with Next?
Hi Jenny, If you prefer to control settings like this with a small, floating palette, see my PageBreaks plugin at http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/pagebreaks/index.htm Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com www.frameexpert.com One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Key combo for Keep with Next?
I don't know the key combo, as I try to keep para format overrides out of my doc's at all costs. I'd recommend a "Body (Keep with Next)" tag & apply as needed. I rely quite heavily on the ability to import formats & remove overrides, so anything put in manually would be erased on each such import. -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training matt at grafixtraining.com www.grafixtraining.com office 714 960-6840 cell & txt 714 585-2335 sms message skype: mattrsullivan twitter: mattrsullivan linkedin facebook -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Greenleaf Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:10 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Key combo for Keep with Next? One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as matt at grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Key combo for Keep with Next?
One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Key combo for Keep with Next?
One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next. Is there a key combination to perform this task? I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key combinations, but didn't see this one. I'm using Frame 9. Thanks! Jenny
