MIF to SVG
Am 07.12.2010 um 16:52 schrieb Rick Quatro: > Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a > mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We > can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to > XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, > etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick, I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript from "inside" FrameMaker documents as well as externally after turning FrameMaker files with Leximation?s MIFML converter in to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG. But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Also, as far as I remember, I stopped creating a converter for Arc objects, because the graphic model is very different between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as you like) and SVG. So, yes, it is possible with some limitations. - Michael
MIF to SVG
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:27:30 +0100, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand wrote: >I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript >from "inside" FrameMaker documents as well as externally after >turning FrameMaker files with Leximation?s MIFML converter in >to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG. An interesting approach! We just used C++, converting the Frame graphics into a DCL representation, then generating WMF from the DCL. (We created DCL and made it public domain.) So for SVG, we already have the MIF parsed, and have the WMF code we wrote as a framework. >But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Same for WMF. However, Frame does tell you where line breaks are in the text frames, so our code computes the start for each line. Of course this also requires parsing the Frame para and char formats, to determine size and spacing, so it is nontrivial. Hard to see how you could do it with XSLT. >Also, as far as I remember, I stopped creating a converter >for Arc objects, because the graphic model is very different >between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as you >like) and SVG. Yes, WMF is also more limited. So we had to compute the equivalent polylines for many Frame objects, and since WMF has no grouping, such objects are essentially uneditable thereafter. (Some line segments were only one pixel long.) We also ran into issues with rotated text, dotted lines, line weights, and much more. The results were "good enough" for use as WinHelp illustrations, but would not win prizes. >So, yes, it is possible with some limitations. Some pretty severe ones, IMHO... which is another reason we haven't rushed to do it. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
MIF to SVG
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:31:12 -0500, Art Campbell wrote: >I'm not sure because I don't use SVG (since Adobe stopped supporting >it), but I recall that MIF2go supports it as an output format for the >contents of anchored frames. May want to double check, but that may >give you a route to create the graphic files. That's correct; in mif2htm.ini, you set: [FDK] GraphicExportFormat=SVG Then Mif2Go tells Frame to use its native SVG export filter. Note that we did *not* write that filter; it is Adobe's. So if it does not match your needs, we can do nothing about it. You don't need to purchase Mif2Go to do this export. The demo version works fine. In the Export dialog, select "Write for anchored frames". To save time, you may also want to check "Write only graphics, no text". We do write our own WMF graphics, when you export to WinHelp, so those are better quality than the native Frame WMF used for the HTML/XML exports. We plan to write our own SVGs at some point too, but so far demand has not justified the substantial programming effort required. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
MIF to SVG
Rick, I'm not sure because I don't use SVG (since Adobe stopped supporting it), but I recall that MIF2go supports it as an output format for the contents of anchored frames. May want to double check, but that may give you a route to create the graphic files. Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a > mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We > can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to > XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, > etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > rick at frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: MIF to SVG
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:31:12 -0500, Art Campbell wrote: >I'm not sure because I don't use SVG (since Adobe stopped supporting >it), but I recall that MIF2go supports it as an output format for the >contents of anchored frames. May want to double check, but that may >give you a route to create the graphic files. That's correct; in mif2htm.ini, you set: [FDK] GraphicExportFormat=SVG Then Mif2Go tells Frame to use its native SVG export filter. Note that we did *not* write that filter; it is Adobe's. So if it does not match your needs, we can do nothing about it. You don't need to purchase Mif2Go to do this export. The demo version works fine. In the Export dialog, select "Write for anchored frames". To save time, you may also want to check "Write only graphics, no text". We do write our own WMF graphics, when you export to WinHelp, so those are better quality than the native Frame WMF used for the HTML/XML exports. We plan to write our own SVGs at some point too, but so far demand has not justified the substantial programming effort required. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: MIF to SVG
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:27:30 +0100, Michael Müller-Hillebrand wrote: >I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript >from "inside" FrameMaker documents as well as externally after >turning FrameMaker files with Leximation’s MIFML converter in >to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG. An interesting approach! We just used C++, converting the Frame graphics into a DCL representation, then generating WMF from the DCL. (We created DCL and made it public domain.) So for SVG, we already have the MIF parsed, and have the WMF code we wrote as a framework. >But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Same for WMF. However, Frame does tell you where line breaks are in the text frames, so our code computes the start for each line. Of course this also requires parsing the Frame para and char formats, to determine size and spacing, so it is nontrivial. Hard to see how you could do it with XSLT. >Also, as far as I remember, I stopped creating a converter >for Arc objects, because the graphic model is very different >between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as you >like) and SVG. Yes, WMF is also more limited. So we had to compute the equivalent polylines for many Frame objects, and since WMF has no grouping, such objects are essentially uneditable thereafter. (Some line segments were only one pixel long.) We also ran into issues with rotated text, dotted lines, line weights, and much more. The results were "good enough" for use as WinHelp illustrations, but would not win prizes. >So, yes, it is possible with some limitations. Some pretty severe ones, IMHO... which is another reason we haven't rushed to do it. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: MIF to SVG
Am 07.12.2010 um 16:52 schrieb Rick Quatro: > Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a > mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We > can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to > XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, > etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick, I have done some work in this direction, both using FrameScript from "inside" FrameMaker documents as well as externally after turning FrameMaker files with Leximation’s MIFML converter in to MIF-as-XML. I then used XSLT to create SVG. But: SVG has no real support for text frames, just text lines. Also, as far as I remember, I stopped creating a converter for Arc objects, because the graphic model is very different between FrameMaker (where you can rotate any object as you like) and SVG. So, yes, it is possible with some limitations. - Michael ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MIF to SVG
Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
Re: MIF to SVG
Rick, I'm not sure because I don't use SVG (since Adobe stopped supporting it), but I recall that MIF2go supports it as an output format for the contents of anchored frames. May want to double check, but that may give you a route to create the graphic files. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a > mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We > can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to > XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, > etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > r...@frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MIF to SVG
Is anyone aware of a tool for converting MIF files to SVG? My client has a mix of imported graphics and FrameMaker objects in their anchored frames. We can preserve them by using MIF for the anchored frame content when saving to XML, but now they want to see if the MIF representation of the graphics, etc., can be converted to SVG. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
