MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
Jeremey speaks with much truthiness! Fulsome truthiness. Mention the cost of maintenance to keep it working correctly, and the rate, and you may indeed get them to recant this heresy! Or get a lucrative gig. Scott At 6:20 PM -0800 1/9/09, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: >On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:46:51 -0800, "Rick Quatro" > wrote: > > > >access >>The granting or withholding of a service or access >>to a resource to a requestor based... > >Sure, that's what you'll get by default. But try to talk the fo//person >out of it; at least, make clear that your ongoing repair time will be >billed at full rate, not provided as a free "bug fix". ;-) > >-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > http://www.omsys.com/ >___
Re: MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
Jeremey speaks with much truthiness! Fulsome truthiness. Mention the cost of maintenance to keep it working correctly, and the rate, and you may indeed get them to recant this heresy! Or get a lucrative gig. Scott At 6:20 PM -0800 1/9/09, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: >On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:46:51 -0800, "Rick Quatro" > wrote: > > > >access >>The granting or withholding of a service or access >>to a resource to a requestor based... > >Sure, that's what you'll get by default. But try to talk the fo//person >out of it; at least, make clear that your ongoing repair time will be >billed at full rate, not provided as a free "bug fix". ;-) > >-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > http://www.omsys.com/ >___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:46:51 -0800, "Rick Quatro" wrote: >Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want more >descriptive anchor names; for example, > >access >The granting or withholding of a service or access >to a resource to a requestor based... As Michael said, this is a Very Bad Idea. The name duplications *will*, not "may", bite you with links that work but go to the wrong place. And nobody but you will ever see the anchors anyway. Dumb. >I will have to use gotolink and newlink markers to accomplish this. Since I >am inserting markers with FrameScript, this shouldn't be a problem. > >My basic question is this: Can I get this output using MIF2Go using gotolink >and newlink markers? > >access >The granting or withholding of a service or access >to a resource to a requestor based... Sure, that's what you'll get by default. But try to talk the fo//person out of it; at least, make clear that your ongoing repair time will be billed at full rate, not provided as a free "bug fix". ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Re: MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:46:51 -0800, "Rick Quatro" wrote: >Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want more >descriptive anchor names; for example, > >access >The granting or withholding of a service or access >to a resource to a requestor based... As Michael said, this is a Very Bad Idea. The name duplications *will*, not "may", bite you with links that work but go to the wrong place. And nobody but you will ever see the anchors anyway. Dumb. >I will have to use gotolink and newlink markers to accomplish this. Since I >am inserting markers with FrameScript, this shouldn't be a problem. > >My basic question is this: Can I get this output using MIF2Go using gotolink >and newlink markers? > >access >The granting or withholding of a service or access >to a resource to a requestor based... Sure, that's what you'll get by default. But try to talk the fo//person out of it; at least, make clear that your ongoing repair time will be billed at full rate, not provided as a free "bug fix". ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
As an aside, i.e. not answering the original question: I have heard such requests also, but in most cases it is a misunderstanding of the concept of an ID! I am sure you tried to talk the client out of it, but, anyway, I will give you some more reasons *not* to use descriptive IDs or anchor names: * Who guarantees the uniqueness of the anchor names, before and after translation? Or speaking in business case: Who pays for the effort needed to manage all used anchor names? * In translation tools marker content can be seen and will be translated if it is natural language text! This most probably breaks the links in other languages. * In XML there are certain limits what kind of characters an ID may consist of, like beginning with a ASCII letter (I seem to remember). So there might be problems if the oh so descriptive term starts with a digit or with an accented character from a foreign language. Even if those reasons are not applicable for your current project, it is always a good idea to see potential problems before the clients asks us to fix them. - Michael Am 09.01.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Rick Quatro: > access > > My links are like this: > > The granting or withholding of a service or href="#Xaf1003728">access to a resource to a requestor based... p> > > Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want > more > descriptive anchor names; for example, > > access > The granting or withholding of a service or href="#access">access > to a resource to a requestor based... -- ___ Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologie Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode Blog: http://cap-studio.de/ - Tel. +49 (9131) 28747
MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
I have a series of hypertext links in my document with this form: openObjectId :2 1003728 I like these kinds of links because I only have to worry about one end of the link; in other words, I don't need two markers for each link. These work nicely with MIF2Go because it can use the paragraph id for the target of the link: access My links are like this: The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want more descriptive anchor names; for example, access The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... I will have to use gotolink and newlink markers to accomplish this. Since I am inserting markers with FrameScript, this shouldn't be a problem. My basic question is this: Can I get this output using MIF2Go using gotolink and newlink markers? access The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com
Re: MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
As an aside, i.e. not answering the original question: I have heard such requests also, but in most cases it is a misunderstanding of the concept of an ID! I am sure you tried to talk the client out of it, but, anyway, I will give you some more reasons *not* to use descriptive IDs or anchor names: * Who guarantees the uniqueness of the anchor names, before and after translation? Or speaking in business case: Who pays for the effort needed to manage all used anchor names? * In translation tools marker content can be seen and will be translated if it is natural language text! This most probably breaks the links in other languages. * In XML there are certain limits what kind of characters an ID may consist of, like beginning with a ASCII letter (I seem to remember). So there might be problems if the oh so descriptive term starts with a digit or with an accented character from a foreign language. Even if those reasons are not applicable for your current project, it is always a good idea to see potential problems before the clients asks us to fix them. - Michael Am 09.01.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Rick Quatro: > access > > My links are like this: > > The granting or withholding of a service or href="#Xaf1003728">access to a resource to a requestor based... p> > > Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want > more > descriptive anchor names; for example, > > access > The granting or withholding of a service or href="#access">access > to a resource to a requestor based... -- ___ Michael Müller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologie Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode Blog: http://cap-studio.de/ - Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
MIF2Go: specifying anchor names
I have a series of hypertext links in my document with this form: openObjectId :2 1003728 I like these kinds of links because I only have to worry about one end of the link; in other words, I don't need two markers for each link. These work nicely with MIF2Go because it can use the paragraph id for the target of the link: access My links are like this: The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... Now my client has thrown me what I hope is a little curve: they want more descriptive anchor names; for example, access The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... I will have to use gotolink and newlink markers to accomplish this. Since I am inserting markers with FrameScript, this shouldn't be a problem. My basic question is this: Can I get this output using MIF2Go using gotolink and newlink markers? access The granting or withholding of a service or access to a resource to a requestor based... Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
