Re: Maybe OT: Frame XML InDesign
I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? Another option, if the Frame docs are not structured to begin with, is to contact DTPtools.com and as to check out the MIF Filter plug-in. The InDesign version is in beta right now, but I'm sure they would love to have it tested. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified (since 1995) for ALL Print and Web Publishing-related software Authorized Quark Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Certified Consultant (since 1990) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
> I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good > results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line > when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting > these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? > Another option, if the Frame docs are not structured to begin with, is to contact DTPtools.com and as to check out the MIF Filter plug-in. The InDesign version is in beta right now, but I'm sure they would love to have it tested. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified (since 1995) for ALL Print and Web Publishing-related software Authorized Quark Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Certified Consultant (since 1990)
Re: Maybe OT: Frame XML InDesign
At 05:35 AM 4/21/2006, Yves Barbion wrote: Hello Framers, I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? Yves, I can't tell you anything about how InDesign treats line breaks. You ca always remove the line breaks with XSLT. If your FM files are structured, you can control the line breaking behavior with r/w rules. Without a preserve line break rule, FM treats line breaks within text like spaces. When you save a structured document to XML, FM attempts to keep lines shorter than 80 characters. You can change the length with the rule: writer line break is n characters; If you specify a large enough value of n, this rule can effectively prevent line breaks within a text range. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Maybe OT: Frame XML InDesign
Yves Barbion wrote: Hello Framers, I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? Hi Yves InDesign XML import is sensitive to carriage-return types. To the best of my recollection, it imports fine with Mac carriage-returns but doesn't like PC/Unix ones. Or it may just be that each version likes the carriage-return convention associated with the platform it lives on. Like Mark Poston, we found the InDesign XML import fairly rubbish and resorted to converting from XML to InDesign tags, which worked well and reliably. -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] web http://www.textmatters.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
Hello Framers, I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? Best regards -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
We had a similar requirement to get XML into InDesign (not via FrameMaker) but found the XML import into InDesign to be lacking. We therefore wrote XSLT to create InDesign Tagged Text which is much more flexible. Regards Mark Poston Mekon Limited www.mekon.com Tel: +44 (0)20 8722 8461 Skype: mark_mekon.com (work) XML Content Management? XML Publishing? Visit www.x-pubs.com Europe's largest XML Publishing conference, 20-21st June 2006 > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+mark.poston=mekon.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+mark.poston=mekon.com at lists.frameusers.com] On > Behalf Of Yves Barbion > Sent: 21 April 2006 13:35 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign > > Hello Framers, > > I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty > good > results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each > line > when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting > these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? > > Best regards > > > > > -- > Yves Barbion > Technical Writer > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > > > U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) > Molenaarsstraat 111 > B-9000 Gent > Belgium > Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 > Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 > www.uni-learning.com >
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
Hi, Yves: I think the option in ID's XML import to ignore white-space-only elements is worth a try. If this doesn't help, try posting on the Adobe InDesign User-to-User forums and on the InDesign Talk list at blueworld.com. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices At 2:35 PM +0200 4/21/06, Yves Barbion wrote: >Hello Framers, > >I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good >results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line >when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting >these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? > >Best regards > > > > >-- >Yves Barbion >Technical Writer >Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > > >U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) >Molenaarsstraat 111 >B-9000 Gent >Belgium >Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 >Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 >www.uni-learning.com > > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
At 05:35 AM 4/21/2006, Yves Barbion wrote: >Hello Framers, I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via >XML. Pretty good results so far, except that I get a carriage return at >the end of each line when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or >InDesign that's inserting these carriage returns and, more importantly, >how can I avoid this? Yves, I can't tell you anything about how InDesign treats line breaks. You ca always remove the line breaks with XSLT. If your FM files are structured, you can control the line breaking behavior with r/w rules. Without a preserve line break rule, FM treats line breaks within text like spaces. When you save a structured document to XML, FM attempts to keep lines shorter than 80 characters. You can change the length with the rule: writer line break is n characters; If you specify a large enough value of n, this rule can effectively prevent line breaks within a text range. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
Maybe OT: Frame > XML > InDesign
Yves Barbion wrote: > Hello Framers, > > I'm trying to convert some FrameMaker files to InDesign via XML. Pretty good > results so far, except that I get a carriage return at the end of each line > when I place the XML in InDesign. Is it Frame or InDesign that's inserting > these carriage returns and, more importantly, how can I avoid this? Hi Yves InDesign XML import is sensitive to carriage-return types. To the best of my recollection, it imports fine with Mac carriage-returns but doesn't like PC/Unix ones. Or it may just be that each version likes the carriage-return convention associated with the platform it lives on. Like Mark Poston, we found the InDesign XML import fairly rubbish and resorted to converting from XML to InDesign tags, which worked well and reliably. -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email markb at textmatters.com web http://www.textmatters.com
