My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-06 Thread Baruch Brodersen
By removing the ImportFormatsSpecial.dll and .ini from /fminit/Plugins
directory I was able to duplicate the issue Verner had and that Richard's
test confirmed.

I then made two test files which I saved as MIF files: one importing
Document Properties with FrameMaker's native import formats function; the
other with Rick Quattro's ImportFormatSpecial plug-in, and then compared the
resulting files.

The native FrameMaker import function apparently has a bug that adds a
 tag to the 
 
  # end of Notes

Import Document Properties with native FrameMaker Import Formats function:


 
 
  # end of Notes


Baruch Brodersen


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Baruch Brodersen; Andersen, Verner Engell VEA;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for
severalfiles where it is unwanted

Baruch Brodersen wrote:

> My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by
importing
> any
> or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however,
did.

Column layout and room for side heads are two different issues.

I did some testing, too. I opened an index file, which has a two-column
layout with no room for side heads. I selected File > Import > Formats.
In the dialog, I made sure Document Properties was the only item
selected, and then I imported from a chapter file, which has a
one-column layout with room for side heads. 

The index file retained its two-column layout, but room for side heads
became turned on. Interestingly, the master pages were unchanged --
their text frames still did not have room for side heads. But the main
body flow did, confirming that room for side heads is a flow property,
not a text frame property. 

I reverted to saved and repeated the experiment, this time importing
only Page Layouts. Except for the first page (which uses a custom
master page unique to my index files), the index file lost its
two-column layout. But room for side heads did _not_ turn on. The
default master pages were replaced by the single-column ones from the
chapter file, and they had room for side heads turned on. But the main
body flow did not.

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-06 Thread Baruch Brodersen
By removing the ImportFormatsSpecial.dll and .ini from /fminit/Plugins
directory I was able to duplicate the issue Verner had and that Richard's
test confirmed.

I then made two test files which I saved as MIF files: one importing
Document Properties with FrameMaker's native import formats function; the
other with Rick Quattro's ImportFormatSpecial plug-in, and then compared the
resulting files.

The native FrameMaker import function apparently has a bug that adds a
 tag to the 
 
  # end of Notes

Import Document Properties with native FrameMaker Import Formats function:


 
 
  # end of Notes


Baruch Brodersen


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Baruch Brodersen; Andersen, Verner Engell VEA;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for
severalfiles where it is unwanted

Baruch Brodersen wrote:
 
> My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by
importing
> any
> or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however,
did.

Column layout and room for side heads are two different issues.

I did some testing, too. I opened an index file, which has a two-column
layout with no room for side heads. I selected File > Import > Formats.
In the dialog, I made sure Document Properties was the only item
selected, and then I imported from a chapter file, which has a
one-column layout with room for side heads. 

The index file retained its two-column layout, but room for side heads
became turned on. Interestingly, the master pages were unchanged --
their text frames still did not have room for side heads. But the main
body flow did, confirming that room for side heads is a flow property,
not a text frame property. 

I reverted to saved and repeated the experiment, this time importing
only Page Layouts. Except for the first page (which uses a custom
master page unique to my index files), the index file lost its
two-column layout. But room for side heads did _not_ turn on. The
default master pages were replaced by the single-column ones from the
chapter file, and they had room for side heads turned on. But the main
body flow did not.
 
Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-04 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Richard, 

You wrote:

 That's right, it's Document Properties, not Page
Layout. Sorry 'bout that.

***

My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by importing any
or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however, did.

Baruch Brodersen


Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
> in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
> Glossary, Date page, Inner front.




My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Baruch Brodersen wrote:

> My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by
importing
> any
> or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however,
did.

Column layout and room for side heads are two different issues.

I did some testing, too. I opened an index file, which has a two-column
layout with no room for side heads. I selected File > Import > Formats.
In the dialog, I made sure Document Properties was the only item
selected, and then I imported from a chapter file, which has a
one-column layout with room for side heads. 

The index file retained its two-column layout, but room for side heads
became turned on. Interestingly, the master pages were unchanged --
their text frames still did not have room for side heads. But the main
body flow did, confirming that room for side heads is a flow property,
not a text frame property. 

I reverted to saved and repeated the experiment, this time importing
only Page Layouts. Except for the first page (which uses a custom
master page unique to my index files), the index file lost its
two-column layout. But room for side heads did _not_ turn on. The
default master pages were replaced by the single-column ones from the
chapter file, and they had room for side heads turned on. But the main
body flow did not.

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--







RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Baruch Brodersen wrote:
 
> My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by
importing
> any
> or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however,
did.

Column layout and room for side heads are two different issues.

I did some testing, too. I opened an index file, which has a two-column
layout with no room for side heads. I selected File > Import > Formats.
In the dialog, I made sure Document Properties was the only item
selected, and then I imported from a chapter file, which has a
one-column layout with room for side heads. 

The index file retained its two-column layout, but room for side heads
became turned on. Interestingly, the master pages were unchanged --
their text frames still did not have room for side heads. But the main
body flow did, confirming that room for side heads is a flow property,
not a text frame property. 

I reverted to saved and repeated the experiment, this time importing
only Page Layouts. Except for the first page (which uses a custom
master page unique to my index files), the index file lost its
two-column layout. But room for side heads did _not_ turn on. The
default master pages were replaced by the single-column ones from the
chapter file, and they had room for side heads turned on. But the main
body flow did not.
 
Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-04 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Richard, 

You wrote:

 That's right, it's Document Properties, not Page
Layout. Sorry 'bout that.

***

My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by importing any
or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however, did.

Baruch Brodersen


Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
> in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
> Glossary, Date page, Inner front.


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My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-03 Thread Combs, Richard
Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
> in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
> Glossary, Date page, Inner front.

 That's right, it's Document Properties, not Page
Layout. Sorry 'bout that. 

Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-03 Thread Combs, Richard
Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
> in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
> Glossary, Date page, Inner front.

 That's right, it's Document Properties, not Page
Layout. Sorry 'bout that. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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