Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-26 Thread Soeren Rievers
The following text is from the adobe site (
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew)


"Importing of comments from PDF files

Easily gather and incorporate review comments from subject matter experts 
and other colleagues. Use the Track Text Edits feature and a new user 
interface to efficiently manage review processes."


So it is possible according to the "new feature list".

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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite






>> I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
>> share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
>> that
>> feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I 
have
>> CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
>> and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
>> versions, too.

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
> makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
> and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste 
them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
"PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 

user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in 
FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS 
version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
I was using Acrobat 8 Professional that came with Adobe Design Premium
CS3. 

-Original Message-
From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM
To: Art Campbell; John Sgammato
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to
Accept/Reject the delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
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and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions, 
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete 
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two

> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it 
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and 
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it
in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back

> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew
>
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Lief Erickson
My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers
apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it
in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew
>
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Art Campbell
John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew
>
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
It can. 
I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night. 
I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature. 
Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
sticky notes appeared as markers.
I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me. 

john  

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
wrote:
> Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling

> it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in 
> the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
menu item in FM9.
> I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
> Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back 
> the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import

> the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only 
> in the TCS version of FM9.
>
> Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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2009-01-22 Thread Lin Sims
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:
> Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it
> "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9
> user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9.
> I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review,
> so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes,
> but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes
> directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version
> of FM9.
>
> Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


-- 
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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
I was using Acrobat 8 Professional that came with Adobe Design Premium
CS3. 

-Original Message-
From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:51 PM
To: Art Campbell; John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to
Accept/Reject the delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers
apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions, 
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete 
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two

> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it 
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and 
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it
in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back

> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew
>
>
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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Lief Erickson
My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro (or
even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:49 PM
To: John Sgammato
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Mike Wickham; Lin Sims
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I
think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers
apply.
  DoD 358


On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato
wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the
PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are
calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it
in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can
import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available
only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it
can.
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Soeren Rievers
The following text is from the adobe site (
http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew)


"Importing of comments from PDF files

Easily gather and incorporate review comments from subject matter experts 
and other colleagues. Use the Track Text Edits feature and a new user 
interface to efficiently manage review processes."


So it is possible according to the "new feature list".

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>> I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
>> share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
>> that
>> feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I 
have
>> CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
>> and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
>> versions, too.

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
> makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
> and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste 
them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
"PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 

user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in 
FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS 
version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Art Campbell
John,
I'm not positive because I haven't played with it yet myself, but I think
the next step is to use Frame's Track Changes tool to Accept/Reject the
delete / insert comments that you've imported.

Art

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, John Sgammato wrote:

> It can.
> I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night.
> I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
> using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature.
> Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
> insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
> Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
> comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
> sticky notes appeared as markers.
> I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
> will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: Mike Wickham
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
> newAdobeeLearningSuite
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
> wrote:
> > Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling
>
> > it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in
> > the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
> menu item in FM9.
> > I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared
> > Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back
> > the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import
>
> > the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only
> > in the TCS version of FM9.
> >
> > Mike Wickham
>
>
> According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew
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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread John Sgammato
It can. 
I downloaded the FM9 demo and tested it last night. 
I opened my Appliance Guide book and all chapters and generated the PDF
using the Save as PDF (Send for review)... Feature. 
Then I opened the PDF and made some various edits (deletions,
insertions, sticky notes, and highlighting).
Then in the Book file, I imported PDF comments. The insert/delete
comments appeared as conditional text in different colors, and the two
sticky notes appeared as markers.
I do not see an MS Word-style "accept-reject comment" option, but it
will still save a lot of time to have them all in place for me. 

john  

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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:05 PM
To: Mike Wickham
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham 
wrote:
> Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling

> it "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in 
> the FM9 user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review)
menu item in FM9.
> I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared 
> Review, so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back 
> the changes, but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import

> the changes directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only 
> in the TCS version of FM9.
>
> Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Lin Sims
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:
> Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it
> "PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9
> user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9.
> I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review,
> so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes,
> but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes
> directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version
> of FM9.
>
> Mike Wickham


According to the Adobe web site listing the new features of FM9, it can.

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features/?view=topnew


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Mike Wickham
>> I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
>> share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
>> that
>> feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
>> CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
>> and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
>> versions, too.

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
> makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
> and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
"PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 
user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham




Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Mike Wickham
>> I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
>> share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
>> that
>> feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
>> CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
>> and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
>> versions, too.

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
> makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
> and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
"PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 
user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Flato, Gillian
When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Flato, Gillian
When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

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