Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-08 Thread Ben Hechter
Nadine,

Paint Shop Pro has a simple Add Borders function (Image>Add Borders) that can 
easily be applied repetitively to an entire set of images.

HTH,

Ben

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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-08 Thread Ben Hechter
Nadine,

Paint Shop Pro has a simple Add Borders function (Image>Add Borders) that can 
easily be applied repetitively to an entire set of images.

HTH,

Ben

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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-07 Thread Tim Lewis
Nadine,

I do this frequently for some of my clients. As the engineer who gave you
the SolidWorks drawing, to save the file as an .easm file, open the eDrawing
in SolidWorks eDrawings (a free viewer from SolidWorks) and then print the
drawing to PDF. Then open the PDF in Illustrator.

If you get the free eDrawings you can then just ask for the .easm file and
turn the object around, position it any way you need it and even hide parts
of the object. It gives you a lot of control of your illustrations.

Tim Lewis
Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.
ltc.writer at comcast.net

> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; David Spreadbury
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> 
> 
> I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I
> can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if
> he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again.
> 
> Thanks, folks.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> 
> > From: David Spreadbury 
> > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
> > SolidWorks PDF
> > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
> > image.
> >
> > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
> > the line width to
> > the desired thickness.
> >
> > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
> > for.
> >



RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-07 Thread Writer

The engineer provided me with dxf drawings, which I open in Illustrator. This 
has worked out well for me.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and helped reach a workable solution.

Nadine


--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Tim Lewis  wrote:

> From: Tim Lewis 
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 11:36 AM
> Nadine,
> 
> I do this frequently for some of my clients. As the
> engineer who gave you
> the SolidWorks drawing, to save the file as an .easm file,
> open the eDrawing
> in SolidWorks eDrawings (a free viewer from SolidWorks) and
> then print the
> drawing to PDF. Then open the PDF in Illustrator.
> 
> If you get the free eDrawings you can then just ask for the
> .easm file and
> turn the object around, position it any way you need it and
> even hide parts
> of the object. It gives you a lot of control of your
> illustrations.
> 
> Tim Lewis
> Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.
> ltc.wri...@comcast.net
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:49 AM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; David Spreadbury
> > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
> line drawing
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored
> drawing, because I
> > can't seem to select individual parts of the
> illustration. I'll see if
> > he can do that, and then I'll try it in
> Illustrator again.
> > 
> > Thanks, folks.
> > 
> > Nadine
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury
>  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: David Spreadbury 
> > > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations -
> Outlining a line drawing
> > > To: generic...@yahoo.ca,
> framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> > > Since you said that you have Illustrator
> available. Open the
> > > SolidWorks PDF
> > > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it
> as a vector
> > > image.
> > >
> > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and
> increase
> > > the line width to
> > > the desired thickness.
> > >
> > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you
> are looking
> > > for.
> > >
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-07 Thread Writer

The engineer provided me with dxf drawings, which I open in Illustrator. This 
has worked out well for me.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and helped reach a workable solution.

Nadine


--- On Thu, 5/7/09, Tim Lewis  wrote:

> From: Tim Lewis 
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Received: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 11:36 AM
> Nadine,
> 
> I do this frequently for some of my clients. As the
> engineer who gave you
> the SolidWorks drawing, to save the file as an .easm file,
> open the eDrawing
> in SolidWorks eDrawings (a free viewer from SolidWorks) and
> then print the
> drawing to PDF. Then open the PDF in Illustrator.
> 
> If you get the free eDrawings you can then just ask for the
> .easm file and
> turn the object around, position it any way you need it and
> even hide parts
> of the object. It gives you a lot of control of your
> illustrations.
> 
> Tim Lewis
> Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.
> ltc.writer at comcast.net
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:49 AM
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; David Spreadbury
> > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
> line drawing
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored
> drawing, because I
> > can't seem to select individual parts of the
> illustration. I'll see if
> > he can do that, and then I'll try it in
> Illustrator again.
> > 
> > Thanks, folks.
> > 
> > Nadine
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury
>  wrote:
> > 
> > > From: David Spreadbury 
> > > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations -
> Outlining a line drawing
> > > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca,
> framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> > > Since you said that you have Illustrator
> available. Open the
> > > SolidWorks PDF
> > > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it
> as a vector
> > > image.
> > >
> > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and
> increase
> > > the line width to
> > > the desired thickness.
> > >
> > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you
> are looking
> > > for.
> > >


RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-07 Thread Tim Lewis
Nadine,

I do this frequently for some of my clients. As the engineer who gave you
the SolidWorks drawing, to save the file as an .easm file, open the eDrawing
in SolidWorks eDrawings (a free viewer from SolidWorks) and then print the
drawing to PDF. Then open the PDF in Illustrator.

If you get the free eDrawings you can then just ask for the .easm file and
turn the object around, position it any way you need it and even hide parts
of the object. It gives you a lot of control of your illustrations.

Tim Lewis
Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.
ltc.wri...@comcast.net

> -Original Message-
> From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; David Spreadbury
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> 
> 
> I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I
> can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if
> he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again.
> 
> Thanks, folks.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> 
> > From: David Spreadbury 
> > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> > To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
> > SolidWorks PDF
> > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
> > image.
> >
> > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
> > the line width to
> > the desired thickness.
> >
> > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
> > for.
> >

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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a vector graphic 
and you can relatively easily edit it in most drawing programs. (After 
you open the WMF you need to ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the 
engineer has some patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple 
formats in case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open DXF 
directly in CorelDraw.

Good luck. If you need more details, let me know.

-- 
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Technical Writer
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Writer wrote:
> I should have offered more information:
>
> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this 
> illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
>
> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the 
> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 
>
> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, 
> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
>> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
>> What format are they in?
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>> Technical Writer
>> 052-763-7133
>>
>> 
>>
>> Writer wrote:
>> 
>>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
>>>   
>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
>> 
>>> I have some line drawings of our product to include in
>>>   
>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
>> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>> 
>>> Thank you for your indulgence,
>>>
>>> Nadine
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Art Campbell
I'd open the supplied PDF in Illustrator, select the object (you may
need to select lines and create an object), then bump the line width.
Or Live trace may work. Then SaveAs to create a new PDF.

As Fred and others pointed out, avoid JPG at all costs. You're already
in one of the most correct formats for what you want to do, so don't
mess with that part of it.

As

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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using 
> Framemaker as your authoring tool.
>
> You can do this in several ways:
> If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the 
> Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the 
> Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line 
> width from the Graphics tools as well.
>
> If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, 
> Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and 
> then position the graphic within the rectangle.
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer  wrote:
>
> From: Writer 
> Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM
>
> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where
> else to ask this question.
>
> I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide.
> I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how
> to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech 
> illustrators
> here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe
> Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>
> Thank you for your indulgence,
>
> Nadine
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
David Spreadbury wrote:
> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.

Sounds like good advice, except for the JPEG part.  JPEG (Joint 
Photographic Experts Group) is a format optimized for photographs, and 
should NEVER be used for any other graphic type (especially not for line 
drawings).  Better choices would be PNG, TIFF, PDF, or EPS.


-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote:

> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.


That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. 
Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. 

The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF 
graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is 
fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It 
prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but 
uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display).

Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector 
formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality.

Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster 
image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise 
scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless.

Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was 
designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the 
image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced 
by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly 
ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts 
(a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a 
drawing.

-Fred Ridder








OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Fred,
I was going with what the original poster mentioned, assuming the customer
was specifying JPEG. I recently ran into this issue and am not having any
problems with the Illustrator-to-JPEG graphics.

Personally, I would opt for GIF, but not from Illustrator. I would export
the Illustrator file to Photoshop and then use Photoshop to create the GIG.
I have run into too many issues with GIFs from Illustrator.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:50 AM
To: generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing


Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote:

> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks
PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.


That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step.
Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. 

The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF
graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is
fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It
prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine,
but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display).

Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are
vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality.

Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are
raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise
scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless.

Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was
designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the
image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably
produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is
particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it
produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text
or alongside lines in a drawing.

-Fred Ridder






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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.

In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
the desired thickness.

Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing


I should have offered more information:

I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in
this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg

The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the
engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 

I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro,
but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> What format are they in?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >
> > I have some line drawings of our product to include in
> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >
> > Thank you for your indulgence,
> >
> > Nadine
> > ___
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Jona Steenbrink
If you can't select individual lines from the pdf in illustrator, try  
using the Live Trace tool (technical illustration preset) to create a  
new vector version of the illustration. Expand the result and you can  
select and modify the stroke of individual lines.

Live Trace may be CS3 and newer only.

Jona


On May 6, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Writer wrote:

>
> I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I  
> can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see  
> if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again.
>
> Thanks, folks.
>
> Nadine
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:
>
>> From: David Spreadbury 
>> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
>> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
>> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
>> SolidWorks PDF
>> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
>> image.
>>
>> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
>> the line width to
>> the desired thickness.
>>
>> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
>> for.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Writer
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line
>> drawing
>>
>>
>> I should have offered more information:
>>
>> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to
>> the "box" in
>> this illustration:
>> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
>>
>> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then
>> received from the
>> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg.
>>
>> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel
>> Paintshop Pro,
>> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
>>
>> Nadine
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
>> line drawing
>>> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
>>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
>>> What format are they in?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shmuel Wolfson
>>> Technical Writer
>>> 052-763-7133
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Writer wrote:
>>>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question,
>> but I
>>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
>>>>
>>>> I have some line drawings of our product to
>> include in
>>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
>> illustrations
>>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it
>> in a
>>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
>>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
>> their
>>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
>> Photoshop,
>>> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your indulgence,
>>>>
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Art Campbell
I'd open the supplied PDF in Illustrator, select the object (you may
need to select lines and create an object), then bump the line width.
Or Live trace may work. Then SaveAs to create a new PDF.

As Fred and others pointed out, avoid JPG at all costs. You're already
in one of the most correct formats for what you want to do, so don't
mess with that part of it.

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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David Spreadbury  wrote:
> Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using 
> Framemaker as your authoring tool.
>
> You can do this in several ways:
> If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the 
> Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the 
> Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line 
> width from the Graphics tools as well.
>
> If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, 
> Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and 
> then position the graphic within the rectangle.
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer  wrote:
>
> From: Writer 
> Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM
>
> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where
> else to ask this question.
>
> I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide.
> I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how
> to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech 
> illustrators
> here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe
> Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>
> Thank you for your indulgence,
>
> Nadine
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RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Fred,
I was going with what the original poster mentioned, assuming the customer
was specifying JPEG. I recently ran into this issue and am not having any
problems with the Illustrator-to-JPEG graphics.

Personally, I would opt for GIF, but not from Illustrator. I would export
the Illustrator file to Photoshop and then use Photoshop to create the GIG.
I have run into too many issues with GIFs from Illustrator.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:50 AM
To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing


Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote:

> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks
PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.


That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step.
Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. 

The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF
graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is
fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It
prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine,
but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display).

Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are
vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality.

Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are
raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise
scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless.

Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was
designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the
image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably
produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is
particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it
produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text
or alongside lines in a drawing.

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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
David Spreadbury wrote:
> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.

Sounds like good advice, except for the JPEG part.  JPEG (Joint 
Photographic Experts Group) is a format optimized for photographs, and 
should NEVER be used for any other graphic type (especially not for line 
drawings).  Better choices would be PNG, TIFF, PDF, or EPS.


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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Jona Steenbrink
If you can't select individual lines from the pdf in illustrator, try  
using the Live Trace tool (technical illustration preset) to create a  
new vector version of the illustration. Expand the result and you can  
select and modify the stroke of individual lines.

Live Trace may be CS3 and newer only.

Jona


On May 6, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Writer wrote:

>
> I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I  
> can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see  
> if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again.
>
> Thanks, folks.
>
> Nadine
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:
>
>> From: David Spreadbury 
>> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
>> To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
>> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
>> SolidWorks PDF
>> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
>> image.
>>
>> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
>> the line width to
>> the desired thickness.
>>
>> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
>> for.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Writer
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line
>> drawing
>>
>>
>> I should have offered more information:
>>
>> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to
>> the "box" in
>> this illustration:
>> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
>>
>> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then
>> received from the
>> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg.
>>
>> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel
>> Paintshop Pro,
>> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
>>
>> Nadine
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
>> line drawing
>>> To: generic...@yahoo.ca
>>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
>>> What format are they in?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shmuel Wolfson
>>> Technical Writer
>>> 052-763-7133
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Writer wrote:
>>>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question,
>> but I
>>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
>>>>
>>>> I have some line drawings of our product to
>> include in
>>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
>> illustrations
>>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it
>> in a
>>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
>>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
>> their
>>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
>> Photoshop,
>>> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your indulgence,
>>>>
>>>> Nadine
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

Thanks, Shmuel. 

You guys are awesome (and patient).

Nadine


--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic...@yahoo.ca, "Framers" 
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:50 AM
> Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a
> vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most
> drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to
> ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some
> patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in
> case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open
> DXF directly in CorelDraw.
> 
> Good luck. If you need more details, let me know.
> 
> -- Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I should have offered more information:
> > 
> > I want to create an outline to the actual object
> similar to the "box" in this illustration:
> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
> > 
> > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I
> then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted
> the PDF to .jpg. 
> > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in
> Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth
> outline to work with.
> > 
> > Nadine
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>  wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations -
> Outlining a line drawing
> >> To: generic...@yahoo.ca
> >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> >> What format are they in?
> >> 
> >> -- Regards,
> >> Shmuel Wolfson
> >> Technical Writer
> >> 052-763-7133
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Writer wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this
> question, but I
> >>>   
> >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >> 
> >>> I have some line drawings of our product to
> include in
> >>>   
> >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
> illustrations
> >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do
> it in a
> >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any
> tech
> >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
> their
> >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
> Photoshop,
> >> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >> 
> >>> Thank you for your indulgence,
> >>> 
> >>> Nadine
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

Thanks, Shmuel. 

You guys are awesome (and patient).

Nadine


--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, "Framers" 
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:50 AM
> Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a
> vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most
> drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to
> ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some
> patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in
> case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open
> DXF directly in CorelDraw.
> 
> Good luck. If you need more details, let me know.
> 
> -- Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I should have offered more information:
> > 
> > I want to create an outline to the actual object
> similar to the "box" in this illustration:
> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
> > 
> > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I
> then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted
> the PDF to .jpg. 
> > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in
> Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth
> outline to work with.
> > 
> > Nadine
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>  wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations -
> Outlining a line drawing
> >> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> >> What format are they in?
> >> 
> >> -- Regards,
> >> Shmuel Wolfson
> >> Technical Writer
> >> 052-763-7133
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Writer wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this
> question, but I
> >>>   
> >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >> 
> >>> I have some line drawings of our product to
> include in
> >>>   
> >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
> illustrations
> >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do
> it in a
> >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any
> tech
> >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
> their
> >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
> Photoshop,
> >> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >> 
> >>> Thank you for your indulgence,
> >>> 
> >>> Nadine
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a vector graphic 
and you can relatively easily edit it in most drawing programs. (After 
you open the WMF you need to ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the 
engineer has some patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple 
formats in case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open DXF 
directly in CorelDraw.

Good luck. If you need more details, let me know.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Writer wrote:
> I should have offered more information:
>
> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this 
> illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
>
> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the 
> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 
>
> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, 
> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
>> To: generic...@yahoo.ca
>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
>> What format are they in?
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> Shmuel Wolfson
>> Technical Writer
>> 052-763-7133
>>
>> 
>>
>> Writer wrote:
>> 
>>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
>>>   
>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
>> 
>>> I have some line drawings of our product to include in
>>>   
>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
>> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
>> 
>>> Thank you for your indulgence,
>>>
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RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote:

> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.


That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. 
Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. 

The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF 
graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is 
fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It 
prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but 
uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display).

Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector 
formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality.

Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster 
image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise 
scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless.

Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was 
designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the 
image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced 
by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly 
ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts 
(a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a 
drawing.

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RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I can't seem 
to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if he can do that, and 
then I'll try it in Illustrator again.

Thanks, folks.

Nadine


--- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:

> From: David Spreadbury 
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
> SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
> image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
> the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
> for.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Writer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line
> drawing
> 
> 
> I should have offered more information:
> 
> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to
> the "box" in
> this illustration:
> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
> 
> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then
> received from the
> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 
> 
> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel
> Paintshop Pro,
> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
> line drawing
> > To: generic...@yahoo.ca
> > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> > What format are they in?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Shmuel Wolfson
> > Technical Writer
> > 052-763-7133
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Writer wrote:
> > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question,
> but I
> > wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> > >
> > > I have some line drawings of our product to
> include in
> > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
> illustrations
> > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it
> in a
> > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
> their
> > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
> Photoshop,
> > and Corel Paintshop Pro.
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I can't seem 
to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if he can do that, and 
then I'll try it in Illustrator again.

Thanks, folks.

Nadine


--- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury  wrote:

> From: David Spreadbury 
> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM
> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the
> SolidWorks PDF
> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector
> image.
> 
> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase
> the line width to
> the desired thickness.
> 
> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking
> for.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Writer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line
> drawing
> 
> 
> I should have offered more information:
> 
> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to
> the "box" in
> this illustration:
> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg
> 
> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then
> received from the
> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 
> 
> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel
> Paintshop Pro,
> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson
>  wrote:
> 
> > From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a
> line drawing
> > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> > What format are they in?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Shmuel Wolfson
> > Technical Writer
> > 052-763-7133
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Writer wrote:
> > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question,
> but I
> > wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> > >
> > > I have some line drawings of our product to
> include in
> > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the
> illustrations
> > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it
> in a
> > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on
> their
> > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
> Photoshop,
> > and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your indulgence,
> > >
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RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF
in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image.

In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to
the desired thickness.

Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing


I should have offered more information:

I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in
this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg

The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the
engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 

I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro,
but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic...@yahoo.ca
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> What format are they in?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >
> > I have some line drawings of our product to include in
> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >
> > Thank you for your indulgence,
> >
> > Nadine
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I should have offered more information:

I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this 
illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg

The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the 
engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 

I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but 
it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic...@yahoo.ca
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> What format are they in?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >
> > I have some line drawings of our product to include in
> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >
> > Thank you for your indulgence,
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I should have offered more information:

I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this 
illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg

The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the 
engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. 

I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but 
it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM
> What format are they in?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> 
> 
> Writer wrote:
> > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I
> wasn't sure where else to ask this question.
> >
> > I have some line drawings of our product to include in
> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations
> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a
> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech
> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their
> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
> and Corel Paintshop Pro.
> >
> > Thank you for your indulgence,
> >
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using 
Framemaker as your authoring tool.
 
You can do this in several ways:
If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the 
Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the 
Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line 
width from the Graphics tools as well.
 
If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, 
Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and 
then position the graphic within the rectangle.

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer  wrote:

From: Writer 
Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM

I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where
else to ask this question.

I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide.
I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how
to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators
here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe
Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.

Thank you for your indulgence,

Nadine
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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread David Spreadbury
Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using 
Framemaker as your authoring tool.
?
You can do this in several ways:
If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the 
Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the 
Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line 
width from the Graphics tools as well.
?
If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, 
Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and 
then position the graphic within the rectangle.

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer  wrote:

From: Writer 
Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM

I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where
else to ask this question.

I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide.
I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how
to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators
here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe
Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.

Thank you for your indulgence,

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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to 
ask this question.

I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. 
I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to 
do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators 
here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe 
Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.

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OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing

2009-05-06 Thread Writer

I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to 
ask this question.

I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. 
I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to 
do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators 
here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe 
Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro.

Thank you for your indulgence,

Nadine