PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread karyn . smith

What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling it
to a PDF vs the Save as PDF option? Thanks.

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Re: PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Art Campbell
SaveAs uses hidden job settings that differ from the standard
Distiller job settings and for many people don't work as well -- it
just tends to be more problematic to produce consistent results.  How
well it works varies a lot depending on your FM and Acrobat versions,
and whether you use the limited Distiller instance shipped with Frame
or the full version.

Saving as a PS file and then distilling keeps the entire production
inside Acrobat itself where it's more easily controlled -- there are
no hidden settings.

That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
produces the PS file and distills it in one step.

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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:29 AM,  karyn.sm...@aero.bombardier.com wrote:

 What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling it
 to a PDF vs the Save as PDF option? Thanks.

 Karyn R Smith
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 Training Program Developer
 2929 West Airfield Drive
 P.O. Box 619011
 DFW Airport TX 75261
 469-791-4386 w
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Re: PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote:
...
 That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
 when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
 produces the PS file and distills it in one step.
 
 Art Campbell

For some workflows, there is a reason -- if you set up multiple watched 
folders with different job options and 'out' folders associated with 
them.  Printing to a .ps file destined for one of those folders can be a 
useful automation in the background while you do other things.


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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Wickham
 What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling 
 it
 to a PDF vs the Save as PDF option? Thanks.

If you read this board regularly, you'll see that almost all problems 
relating to PDF production result from using Save as PDF. Just avoid it. 
Instead, print to the Adobe PDF virtual printer. It always works and does 
the same thing as creating a PS file and then manually distilling it-- all 
in one step.

There is one time, however, that you might want to print to PS, and that's 
if you create watched folders in Acrobat. These are folders that Acrobat 
monitors. When a PS file appears in them, Acrobat automatically distills the 
file. The cool thing is that you can set up multiple watched folders, and 
assign one of Acrobat's .joboptions settings files to each. So when you 
create a PS file in that folder, it will be distilled with the particular 
joboptions set for the folder. If you find yourself needing to change the 
joboptions settings regularly, it can useful.

Mike Wickham


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Re: PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Art Campbell
That's true, but the OP was comparing PSDistill to SaveAs.  No
mention of watched folders.
Because SaveAs also wouldn't be used in a watched folder workflow, I
assumed that watched folders weren't involved and so didn't go down
that path.

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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stuart Rogers
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:
 Art Campbell wrote:
 ...

 That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
 when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
 produces the PS file and distills it in one step.

 Art Campbell

 For some workflows, there is a reason -- if you set up multiple watched
 folders with different job options and 'out' folders associated with them.
  Printing to a .ps file destined for one of those folders can be a useful
 automation in the background while you do other things.


 --
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 Toronto, ON, Canada
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

 srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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 beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge.

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RE: PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Fred Ridder

Mike Wickham wrote:

 There is one time, however, that you might want to print to PS, and that's 
 if you create watched folders in Acrobat. These are folders that Acrobat 
 monitors. When a PS file appears in them, Acrobat automatically distills the 
 file. The cool thing is that you can set up multiple watched folders, and 
 assign one of Acrobat's .joboptions settings files to each. So when you 
 create a PS file in that folder, it will be distilled with the particular 
 joboptions set for the folder. If you find yourself needing to change the 
 joboptions settings regularly, it can useful.


Yes, watched folders can be extremely useful. But note that this feature is 
only available if you have Adobe Acrobat Professional. The feature is not 
available if you have the Standard version of Acrobat or if you are only using 
the version of Distiller that is bundled with FrameMaker.

-Fred Ridder

 

 
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PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Art Campbell
SaveAs uses hidden job settings that differ from the standard
Distiller job settings and for many people don't work as well -- it
just tends to be more problematic to produce consistent results.  How
well it works varies a lot depending on your FM and Acrobat versions,
and whether you use the limited Distiller instance shipped with Frame
or the full version.

Saving as a PS file and then distilling keeps the entire production
inside Acrobat itself where it's more easily controlled -- there are
no hidden settings.

That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
produces the PS file and distills it in one step.

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:29 AM,   wrote:
>
> What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling it
> to a PDF vs the "Save as PDF" option? Thanks.
>
> Karyn R Smith
> Bombardier Customer Services - Customer Training DFW
> Training Program Developer
> 2929 West Airfield Drive
> P.O. Box 619011
> DFW Airport TX 75261
> 469-791-4386 w
> 817-528-1434 cell
>
> Ask me about Toastmasters!
> http://goldentriangle.freetoasthost.net
>
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PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote:
...>
> That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
> when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
> produces the PS file and distills it in one step.
> 
> Art Campbell

For some workflows, there is a reason -- if you set up multiple watched 
folders with different job options and 'out' folders associated with 
them.  Printing to a .ps file destined for one of those folders can be a 
useful automation in the background while you do other things.


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor 
to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."

--Anatole France



PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Wickham
> What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling 
> it
> to a PDF vs the "Save as PDF" option? Thanks.

If you read this board regularly, you'll see that almost all problems 
relating to PDF production result from using Save as PDF. Just avoid it. 
Instead, print to the Adobe PDF virtual printer. It always works and does 
the same thing as creating a PS file and then manually distilling it-- all 
in one step.

There is one time, however, that you might want to print to PS, and that's 
if you create "watched folders" in Acrobat. These are folders that Acrobat 
monitors. When a PS file appears in them, Acrobat automatically distills the 
file. The cool thing is that you can set up multiple watched folders, and 
assign one of Acrobat's .joboptions settings files to each. So when you 
create a PS file in that folder, it will be distilled with the particular 
joboptions set for the folder. If you find yourself needing to change the 
joboptions settings regularly, it can useful.

Mike Wickham




PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Art Campbell
That's true, but the OP was comparing PS>Distill to SaveAs.  No
mention of watched folders.
Because SaveAs also wouldn't be used in a watched folder workflow, I
assumed that watched folders weren't involved and so didn't go down
that path.

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
> ...>
>>
>> That said, there's no reason to do a two-step PS-then-distill process
>> when you can just Print to the Adobe PDF printer instance, which
>> produces the PS file and distills it in one step.
>>
>> Art Campbell
>
> For some workflows, there is a reason -- if you set up multiple watched
> folders with different job options and 'out' folders associated with them.
> ?Printing to a .ps file destined for one of those folders can be a useful
> automation in the background while you do other things.
>
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to
> beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."
>
> --Anatole France
>
>


PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-11 Thread Fred Ridder

Mike Wickham wrote:

> There is one time, however, that you might want to print to PS, and that's 
> if you create "watched folders" in Acrobat. These are folders that Acrobat 
> monitors. When a PS file appears in them, Acrobat automatically distills the 
> file. The cool thing is that you can set up multiple watched folders, and 
> assign one of Acrobat's .joboptions settings files to each. So when you 
> create a PS file in that folder, it will be distilled with the particular 
> joboptions set for the folder. If you find yourself needing to change the 
> joboptions settings regularly, it can useful.


Yes, watched folders can be extremely useful. But note that this feature is 
only available if you have Adobe Acrobat Professional. The feature is not 
available if you have the Standard version of Acrobat or if you are only using 
the version of Distiller that is bundled with FrameMaker.

-Fred Ridder






PS vs Save as PDF

2009-09-09 Thread karyn.sm...@aero.bombardier.com

What are the advantages/disadvantages of making a PS file and distilling it
to a PDF vs the "Save as PDF" option? Thanks.

Karyn R Smith
Bombardier Customer Services - Customer Training DFW
Training Program Developer
2929 West Airfield Drive
P.O. Box 619011
DFW Airport TX 75261
469-791-4386 w
817-528-1434 cell

Ask me about Toastmasters!
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