RE: QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-03 Thread Harro de Jong 
VLM TechSubs wrote:

 
 Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting
 character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no
 longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I
 don’t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a 
 thin
 space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a
 nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and 
 that
 will not have any adverse effect?


This shouldn't be necessary. Frame will not trip over an empty paragraph. And 
when you refer to an empty paragraph, a marker will be placed in the paragraph 
and it won't be empty anymore. 
You're better off switching on View-Text Symbols so you can see where the 
empty paragraphs (and markers) are. 

But why refer to empty headings in the first place? I assume you don't know yet 
what the title will be, but if that's the case, how can you refer to something 
if you haven't decided what you will be referring to? 


Harro de Jong
Triview
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QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-03 Thread Harro de Jong 
VLM TechSubs wrote:

> 
> Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting
> character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no
> longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I
> don?t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a 
> thin
> space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a
> nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and 
> that
> will not have any adverse effect?


This shouldn't be necessary. Frame will not trip over an empty paragraph. And 
when you refer to an empty paragraph, a marker will be placed in the paragraph 
and it won't be empty anymore. 
You're better off switching on View->Text Symbols so you can see where the 
empty paragraphs (and markers) are. 

But why refer to empty headings in the first place? I assume you don't know yet 
what the title will be, but if that's the case, how can you refer to something 
if you haven't decided what you will be referring to? 


Harro de Jong
Triview

QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs 
Thanks Scott. I haven’t moved any files, and this was mass breakage of the 
links all at once. 

Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting 
character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no 
longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don’t 
wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a thin 
space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a 
nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and 
that will not have any adverse effect?

Thanks to all,
Elchanan

 

From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM
To: VLM TechSubs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

 

I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref 
marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. 

 

Scott T.


On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, VLM TechSubs 
techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote:

Greetings!

 

I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to 
other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working 
for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that 
were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, 
generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of 
broken xrefs again. 

 

Has anyone else encountered something like this? 

 

Thanks,

Elchanan

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QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs 
Thanks Scott. I haven?t moved any files, and this was mass breakage of the 
links all at once. 

Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting 
character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no 
longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don?t 
wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a thin 
space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a 
nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and 
that will not have any adverse effect?

Thanks to all,
Elchanan



From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM
To: VLM TechSubs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking



I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref 
marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. 



Scott T.


On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, "VLM TechSubs"  wrote:

Greetings!



I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to 
other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working 
for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that 
were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, 
generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of 
broken xrefs again. 



Has anyone else encountered something like this? 



Thanks,

Elchanan

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