RE: Anchored Frame Problem

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Hi Lea,

It's when you use the "Anchoring Position: At Insertion Point" option - that 
causes a new Distance above Baseline field to appear.

You don't need to do structured FM to use the FM to RH help generation. I'd 
recommend that you check out RJ Jacquez's blog 
(http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez/) for some good demos of how stuff flows from 
FM to RH.  

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Galanter, Lea
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:49 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Anchored Frame Problem

Hi Framers,

 

I'm hoping you can help me with a small problem. I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 
7, but I've had this problem with previous versions of Frame as well, so it's 
not new. When using anchored frames, I am unable to fix the distance of the 
frame from the surrounding text. The online Help indicates that the Anchored 
Frame dialog box has a Distance above Baseline option, but I see no such option 
in that dialog box. Not sure why Adobe says that such an option exists when it 
clearly doesn't. Does anyone know where this option may really be hiding.

 

I did have a thought that the option may be available only when using 
structured Frame, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. I have not yet 
made the transition to structured Frame - no time to transition the old files I 
inherited. But while I'm on the subject, we bought TechCommSuite 2 and I'm 
going to use RoboHelp to create Help files we never had for our product - 
should I transition my files to structured Frame if I'm going to link my files 
to RoboHelp?

 

TIA!

 

Lea Galanter

Lead Technical Editor and Writer

F T I Technology 

lea.galan...@fticonsulting.com  

www.ftitechnology.com  

Phone: 206-689-4438 

 

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have more of it today, one reason is that we have more half-educated people in 
a position to afflict the public with their words -- and, as often as not, a 
wish to hide something." Dwight Bolinger, Language: The Loaded Weapon 134 (1980)

 

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RE: Anchored Frame Problem

[Fred Ridder]

Lea Galanter wrote:

> I'm hoping you can help me with a small problem. I'm using Frame 9 on
> Windows 7, but I've had this problem with previous versions of Frame as
> well, so it's not new. When using anchored frames, I am unable to fix
> the distance of the frame from the surrounding text. The online Help
> indicates that the Anchored Frame dialog box has a Distance above
> Baseline option, but I see no such option in that dialog box. Not sure
> why Adobe says that such an option exists when it clearly doesn't. Does
> anyone know where this option may really be hiding.


The option you are looking for is only presented in the Anchored Frame 
properties dialog when it is relevant, and that depends on the current setting 
of the Anchoring Position property. When you use the At Insertion Point, 
Outside Column, or Outside Text Frame position, you will indeed see a Distance 
above Baseline property. If you are using the Below Current Line, At Top of 
Column, At Bottom of Column, or Run into Paragraph position, you will *not* see 
Distance above Baseline because that property is irrelevant or meaningless.

What anchoring position are you using? And how does the behavior you see vary 
from the behavior you desire?

-Fred Ridder

 

 
  
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RE: Anchored Frame Problem

[Galanter, Lea]

Thanks, Jeff. I'll check out RJ's blog (I keep forgetting about that!).

Thanks to Rick Quattro for calling me and discussing At Insertion Point.
Based on his suggestion for working with graphics, I'm creating a new
Graphic Insert paragraph style, which the docs have not had before. This
is also going to solve my problem with the distance between the graphic
and its caption.

Thanks!

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
F T I Technology 
lea.galan...@fticonsulting.com
www.ftitechnology.com
Phone: 206-689-4438 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:01 PM
To: Galanter, Lea; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Anchored Frame Problem

Hi Lea,

It's when you use the "Anchoring Position: At Insertion Point" option -
that causes a new Distance above Baseline field to appear.

You don't need to do structured FM to use the FM to RH help generation.
I'd recommend that you check out RJ Jacquez's blog
(http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez/) for some good demos of how stuff
flows from FM to RH.  

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Galanter, Lea
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:49 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Anchored Frame Problem

Hi Framers,

 

I'm hoping you can help me with a small problem. I'm using Frame 9 on
Windows 7, but I've had this problem with previous versions of Frame as
well, so it's not new. When using anchored frames, I am unable to fix
the distance of the frame from the surrounding text. The online Help
indicates that the Anchored Frame dialog box has a Distance above
Baseline option, but I see no such option in that dialog box. Not sure
why Adobe says that such an option exists when it clearly doesn't. Does
anyone know where this option may really be hiding.

 

I did have a thought that the option may be available only when using
structured Frame, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. I have not
yet made the transition to structured Frame - no time to transition the
old files I inherited. But while I'm on the subject, we bought
TechCommSuite 2 and I'm going to use RoboHelp to create Help files we
never had for our product - should I transition my files to structured
Frame if I'm going to link my files to RoboHelp?

 

TIA!

 

Lea Galanter

Lead Technical Editor and Writer

F T I Technology 

lea.galan...@fticonsulting.com <mailto:asincla...@attenex.com> 

www.ftitechnology.com <http://www.attenex.com/> 

Phone: 206-689-4438 

 

"Jargon at its worst is partly a product of unfinished education, and if
we have more of it today, one reason is that we have more half-educated
people in a position to afflict the public with their words -- and, as
often as not, a wish to hide something." Dwight Bolinger, Language: The
Loaded Weapon 134 (1980)

 

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Re: Anchored Frame Problem

[Stuart Rogers]

On 08/02/2010 5:00 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> Hi Lea,
>
> It's when you use the "Anchoring Position: At Insertion Point" option
> - that causes a new Distance above Baseline field to appear.
>

...or when you use Anchoring Position: Outside Column or Outside Text Frame.

Lea, a tip that I picked up from this list in my early days with FM is 
to put anchored frames in their own dedicated paragraphs.  This approach 
gives you a lot of control over positioning and spacing, keeping 
captions with their figures, etc. because you have all the options of 
the pgf tag definition at your disposal.  You can create various tags 
with different alignments, indentations, Next Pgf specifications, space 
above/below, etc. as needed.

HTH.

>
> -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Galanter,
> Lea Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:49 PM To:
> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Anchored Frame Problem
>
> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping you can help me with a small problem. I'm using Frame 9 on
> Windows 7, but I've had this problem with previous versions of Frame
> as well, so it's not new. When using anchored frames, I am unable to
> fix the distance of the frame from the surrounding text. The online
> Help indicates that the Anchored Frame dialog box has a Distance
> above Baseline option, but I see no such option in that dialog box.
> Not sure why Adobe says that such an option exists when it clearly
> doesn't. Does anyone know where this option may really be hiding.
>


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