Re: Background with JPEG
I come back to what you both said about transparency after reading this technical note by Adobe : Transparent Color in Images Is White in FrameMaker Adobe FrameMaker doesn't support transparency in image files (for example, EPS, TIFF, GIF, or JPEG). When you import an image, FrameMaker maps any transparent pixels to white to enable irregular text runarounds. If FrameMaker did not map transparent areas of images to white, text runarounds would not work correctly with the image (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317850) So, does FrameMaker support transparency at all or not ? Apparently, versions affected by this technical note are 5.0 to 7.0...WAs it fixed with the 7.2 version ? Thank you for you help, Mathieu. From: Sean Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:18:06 + EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the larger file size. --Sean Pollock UGS Corp. From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500 The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported. If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the background from your subject and set it to white and still use .jpg. If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another... Art On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ -- Art Campbell[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Background with JPEG
Well, No, FM doesn't support transparency. However, you might run into a disagreement on whether it's broken or not. As whoever you quoted mentioned, the tradeoff seems to be support for runarounds or transparency, and they picked runarounds. Art On 3/20/07, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I come back to what you both said about transparency after reading this technical note by Adobe : Transparent Color in Images Is White in FrameMaker Adobe FrameMaker doesn't support transparency in image files (for example, EPS, TIFF, GIF, or JPEG). When you import an image, FrameMaker maps any transparent pixels to white to enable irregular text runarounds. If FrameMaker did not map transparent areas of images to white, text runarounds would not work correctly with the image (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317850) So, does FrameMaker support transparency at all or not ? Apparently, versions affected by this technical note are 5.0 to 7.0...WAs it fixed with the 7.2 version ? Thank you for you help, Mathieu. From: Sean Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:18:06 + EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the larger file size. --Sean Pollock UGS Corp. From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500 The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported. If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the background from your subject and set it to white and still use .jpg. If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another... Art On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ -- Art Campbell[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Background with JPEG
And we all know how well it works when you leave runarounds turned on. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:15 AM To: mathieu jacquet Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Well, No, FM doesn't support transparency. However, you might run into a disagreement on whether it's broken or not. As whoever you quoted mentioned, the tradeoff seems to be support for runarounds or transparency, and they picked runarounds. Art On 3/20/07, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I come back to what you both said about transparency after reading this technical note by Adobe : Transparent Color in Images Is White in FrameMaker Adobe FrameMaker doesn't support transparency in image files (for example, EPS, TIFF, GIF, or JPEG). When you import an image, FrameMaker maps any transparent pixels to white to enable irregular text runarounds. If FrameMaker did not map transparent areas of images to white, text runarounds would not work correctly with the image (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317850) So, does FrameMaker support transparency at all or not ? Apparently, versions affected by this technical note are 5.0 to 7.0...WAs it fixed with the 7.2 version ? Thank you for you help, Mathieu. From: Sean Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:18:06 + EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the larger file size. --Sean Pollock UGS Corp. From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500 The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported. If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the background from your subject and set it to white and still use .jpg. If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another... Art On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotm ail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bgagne%40husky.ca Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Background with JPEG
The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported. If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the background from your subject and set it to white and still use .jpg. If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another... Art On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Background with JPEG
EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the larger file size. --Sean Pollock UGS Corp. __ From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Background with JPEG Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500 The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported. If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the background from your subject and set it to white and still use .jpg. If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another... Art On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live.com http://www.windowslive.fr/livecom/ ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotmail.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Background with JPEG
Hi Mathieu, Actually, despite what one other list member said, JPEG does support transparency if you set it. However, I would not use JPG format in any case. It supports a high number of colors, but it is considered a lossy format, meaning it does not render solid-colored spaces accurately; rather, it introduces subtle but noticeable variations. If you are doing graphics with a very limited number of colors, GIF would be OK. But, by far, my preference is for PNG (Portable Networking Graphics) format. It supports the high number of colors like JPG, but it is not lossy. It also supports transparency, though I believe older browsers might not render transparency correctly with this format. In any case, the answer to your problem is to make sure you are working with a graphics program that supports transparency for a selected (usually background) color. If you need more help/information, please feel free to contact me offline if you want. HTH, Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Subject: Background with JPEG Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Background with JPEG
Charles, You may want to mention this to the independent JPG group at www.jpg.org people... they don't think their format supports transparency. See question 12 in the http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg-faq/ JPG2000 does, however. Art On 2/27/07, Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mathieu, Actually, despite what one other list member said, JPEG does support transparency if you set it. However, I would not use JPG format in any case. It supports a high number of colors, but it is considered a lossy format, meaning it does not render solid-colored spaces accurately; rather, it introduces subtle but noticeable variations. If you are doing graphics with a very limited number of colors, GIF would be OK. But, by far, my preference is for PNG (Portable Networking Graphics) format. It supports the high number of colors like JPG, but it is not lossy. It also supports transparency, though I believe older browsers might not render transparency correctly with this format. In any case, the answer to your problem is to make sure you are working with a graphics program that supports transparency for a selected (usually background) color. If you need more help/information, please feel free to contact me offline if you want. HTH, Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Subject: Background with JPEG Hi all, when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ? Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the background disappear ? Thank you all, Mathieu. ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
