Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-04 Thread Writer 
Can you get an FM upgrade? You can track changes with newer versions of 
FM (starting with version 8, I think).


Nadine

On 04/06/2010 6:36 PM, Jim Duszynski wrote:

Hello Framers,

I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I 
haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all 
input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.

TIA!

Jim Duszynski
Skyline Products, Inc
Colorado Springs, CO
Technical Writer
(719) 392-9046, Ext. 311


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Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-05 Thread Steve Johnson 
Unless all of your reviewers has Frame, it doesn't make sense.
Alternate suggestions:

1) PDF comments

2) Code Collaborator or a similar application that enables everyone to
mark up the document (i.e., PDF) in a central location. IOW, everyone
can see everyone else's comments. Code Collaborator is intended for
code reviews but it worked well for us reviewing documentation.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Jim Duszynski
 wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
> I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I 
> haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all 
> input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.
>
> TIA!
>
> Jim Duszynski
> Skyline Products, Inc
> Colorado Springs, CO
> Technical Writer
> (719) 392-9046, Ext. 311
>
>
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Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-05 Thread David Spreadbury 
If you are delivering documents as PDF, using Adobe Acrobat, then you have a 
tool.
 
Just enable commenting in your review PDFs. Your reviewers, using Acrobat 
Reader, can insert comments, redline, mar out, etc. You can then combine all of 
the comments received into one file, with the comments annotated as to who each 
came from.
 
Look around Adobe's site. There are numerous articles, and  tutorials, on how 
to implement an Acrobat Review strategy.

--- On Sat, 6/5/10, Steve Johnson  wrote:


From: Steve Johnson 
Subject: Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?
To: "Jim Duszynski" 
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 9:35 AM


Unless all of your reviewers has Frame, it doesn't make sense.
Alternate suggestions:

1) PDF comments

2) Code Collaborator or a similar application that enables everyone to
mark up the document (i.e., PDF) in a central location. IOW, everyone
can see everyone else's comments. Code Collaborator is intended for
code reviews but it worked well for us reviewing documentation.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Jim Duszynski
 wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
> I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I 
> haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all 
> input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.
>
> TIA!
>
> Jim Duszynski
> Skyline Products, Inc
> Colorado Springs, CO
> Technical Writer
> (719) 392-9046, Ext. 311
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RE: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-05 Thread Fred Ridder 

But note that you must have Adobe Acrobat Pro (or Pro Extended) to enable 
commenting from Adobe Reader. The Standard edition of Acrobat lacks this 
feature (among others). 

 

-Fred Ridder
 
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:53:32 -0700
> From: dspre...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?
> To: jimduszyn...@skylineproducts.com; dr_go...@pobox.com
> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> 
> If you are delivering documents as PDF, using Adobe Acrobat, then you have a 
> tool.
>  
> Just enable commenting in your review PDFs. Your reviewers, using Acrobat 
> Reader, can insert comments, redline, mar out, etc. You can then combine all 
> of the comments received into one file, with the comments annotated as to who 
> each came from.
>  
> Look around Adobe's site. There are numerous articles, and  tutorials, on how 
> to implement an Acrobat Review strategy.
  
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Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-05 Thread David Creamer 
> I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I
> haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all
> input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.

InTech  used to sell one for Frame 7.
I don't know if they still sell it, but you could ask.

If I recall, it cost about two hundred dollars--about the same as the
upgrade to Frame 8 at the time, which had track changes as one of the new
features. 


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Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-05 Thread Art Campbell 
Could you clarify your question? I'm reading it two ways:
Either you need to flag changes in FM since the previous rev so they stand
out to reviewers. OR... you want to let people record comments in the text,
for which others are recommending (correctly) to use Acrobat to track
comments.

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jim Duszynski <
jimduszyn...@skylineproducts.com> wrote:

> Hello Framers,
>
> I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.
>  I haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and
> all input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.
>
> TIA!
>
> Jim Duszynski
> Skyline Products, Inc
> Colorado Springs, CO
> Technical Writer
> (719) 392-9046, Ext. 311
>
>
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RE: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-07 Thread Jim Duszynski 
The former. My reviewers want to see the changes from the previous version.

Jim Duszynski
Techniczny Autor
(719) 884-3787

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:54 PM
To: Jim Duszynski
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

Could you clarify your question? I'm reading it two ways:
Either you need to flag changes in FM since the previous rev so they stand out 
to reviewers. OR... you want to let people record comments in the text, for 
which others are recommending (correctly) to use Acrobat to track comments.

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com<mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jim Duszynski 
mailto:jimduszyn...@skylineproducts.com>> 
wrote:
Hello Framers,

I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I 
haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all 
input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.

TIA!

Jim Duszynski
Skyline Products, Inc
Colorado Springs, CO
Technical Writer
(719) 392-9046, Ext. 311


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RE: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

2010-06-07 Thread David Spreadbury 
Then, if you aren't using Frame 8, or greater, about the only way you can get 
what you want is by using conditional text, which is what Frame 8 really uses.
 
Just set up a condition code for new/replaced and old/changed, or whatever 
names you want to call them. Then distribute with the condition(s) tuened on.

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Jim Duszynski  wrote:


From: Jim Duszynski 
Subject: RE: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?
To: "Art Campbell" 
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 8:55 AM


The former. My reviewers want to see the changes from the previous version.

Jim Duszynski
Techniczny Autor
(719) 884-3787

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:54 PM
To: Jim Duszynski
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Change Tracking in FM 7.1 for doc review?

Could you clarify your question? I'm reading it two ways:
Either you need to flag changes in FM since the previous rev so they stand out 
to reviewers. OR... you want to let people record comments in the text, for 
which others are recommending (correctly) to use Acrobat to track comments.

Art Campbell                                                                    
      art.campb...@gmail.com<mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                                                     No disclaimers apply.
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jim Duszynski 
mailto:jimduszyn...@skylineproducts.com>> 
wrote:
Hello Framers,

I've been asked to provide Word-like change tracking for document review.  I 
haven't been down this road with FM before, so I would appreciate any and all 
input how I can provide this type of document or something similar.

TIA!

Jim Duszynski
Skyline Products, Inc
Colorado Springs, CO
Technical Writer
(719) 392-9046, Ext. 311
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