RE: Converting Word doc to Frame.
At 10:25 -0500 11/5/11, Pinkham, Jim wrote: BTW, Jack Lyon, over on the Editorium, has a Delete Unused Styles macro that's very helpful for getting rid of the detritus in a Word doc or template so that the Word doc you're importing into Frame with your File-Import command only has the limited set of styles that you want and need. SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plug-ins have the respective 'Delete unused styles' commands too. Ok, you have to buy these, but they're not costly, and have a load of other useful commands as well. It's somehow really satisfying to see the para style palette shrink before your eyes ;-) I've had a document (which had clearly 'been around a bit') go from over 100 para styles to about six before now. Their Table Tools plug-in does the same thing for unused table styles. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame.
I'm a big fan of those two plug-ins on the FM side. Good point :) -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:54 AM To: Pinkham, Jim; Flato, Gillian; Yorke, Carl; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Converting Word doc to Frame. At 10:25 -0500 11/5/11, Pinkham, Jim wrote: BTW, Jack Lyon, over on the Editorium, has a Delete Unused Styles macro that's very helpful for getting rid of the detritus in a Word doc or template so that the Word doc you're importing into Frame with your File-Import command only has the limited set of styles that you want and need. SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plug-ins have the respective 'Delete unused styles' commands too. Ok, you have to buy these, but they're not costly, and have a load of other useful commands as well. It's somehow really satisfying to see the para style palette shrink before your eyes ;-) I've had a document (which had clearly 'been around a bit') go from over 100 para styles to about six before now. Their Table Tools plug-in does the same thing for unused table styles. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame.
Many thanks to all who responded to my plea for help. I'm better off now that I was before. Thanks! Carl Carl Yorke Documentation Manager ActiveVideo Networks, Inc. 333 W. San Carlos Street, Suite 400 San Jose, CA 95110 408.931.9085 www.avnetworks.com -Original Message- From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:46 AM To: Steve Rickaby; Flato, Gillian; Yorke, Carl; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Converting Word doc to Frame. I'm a big fan of those two plug-ins on the FM side. Good point :) -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:54 AM To: Pinkham, Jim; Flato, Gillian; Yorke, Carl; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Converting Word doc to Frame. At 10:25 -0500 11/5/11, Pinkham, Jim wrote: BTW, Jack Lyon, over on the Editorium, has a Delete Unused Styles macro that's very helpful for getting rid of the detritus in a Word doc or template so that the Word doc you're importing into Frame with your File-Import command only has the limited set of styles that you want and need. SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plug-ins have the respective 'Delete unused styles' commands too. Ok, you have to buy these, but they're not costly, and have a load of other useful commands as well. It's somehow really satisfying to see the para style palette shrink before your eyes ;-) I've had a document (which had clearly 'been around a bit') go from over 100 para styles to about six before now. Their Table Tools plug-in does the same thing for unused table styles. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame.
Second that. And to further elaborate: On Page 5 of that document, Tim Murray notes, Frame could care less if a heading is named Heading 1 or Fred_Flintstone, so you don't really have to mess with Word's style names before the conversion unless you want to change the style names to match the target template. When I've used Tim's document, I did exactly that: I defined styles in Word that matched what I had and wanted in the Frame template. Then I styled the Word doc so that it had only the same-named styles as Frame and then did the import. BTW, Jack Lyon, over on the Editorium, has a Delete Unused Styles macro that's very helpful for getting rid of the detritus in a Word doc or template so that the Word doc you're importing into Frame with your File-Import command only has the limited set of styles that you want and need. HTH, Jim From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Flato, Gillian Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:30 PM To: Yorke, Carl; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Converting Word doc to Frame. When I've done in the past, after prepping the file with Word2Frame.pdf, I have opened the Word file in Frame, letting Frame convert it. Then I go to a paragraph style, change it to what I want, and then do an update all in the paragraph designer. Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.com mailto:gfl...@nanometrics.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yorke, Carl Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:21 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Converting Word doc to Frame. I know I've seen this on the board before, but I can't find it. I'm using Frame 9 on XP. I'm moving some big docs from Word to Frame. I did all the preparation from word2frame.pdf, but that doc never says how to actually import the Word doc into the file with the Frame template I've prepared. When I do bring the Word file over, everything marked Normal stays Normal. When I do a global update from Normal to Body, all the 'Normal' text becomes '*Body', but the font does not change to what I have for Body. Then I have to go through one paragraph at a time and assign Default Font. So what's the point of Global Update? Help? Thanks, Carl Yorke Documentation Manager ActiveVideo Networks, Inc. 333 W. San Carlos Street, Suite 400 San Jose, CA 95110 408.931.9085 www.avnetworks.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame.
When I've done in the past, after prepping the file with Word2Frame.pdf, I have opened the Word file in Frame, letting Frame convert it. Then I go to a paragraph style, change it to what I want, and then do an update all in the paragraph designer. Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 *408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.commailto:gfl...@nanometrics.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yorke, Carl Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:21 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Converting Word doc to Frame. I know I've seen this on the board before, but I can't find it. I'm using Frame 9 on XP. I'm moving some big docs from Word to Frame. I did all the preparation from word2frame.pdf, but that doc never says how to actually import the Word doc into the file with the Frame template I've prepared. When I do bring the Word file over, everything marked Normal stays Normal. When I do a global update from Normal to Body, all the 'Normal' text becomes '*Body', but the font does not change to what I have for Body. Then I have to go through one paragraph at a time and assign Default Font. So what's the point of Global Update? Help? Thanks, Carl Yorke Documentation Manager ActiveVideo Networks, Inc. 333 W. San Carlos Street, Suite 400 San Jose, CA 95110 408.931.9085 www.avnetworks.comhttp://www.avnetworks.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame
Jeez, now you're going to test my memory, because most of the conversion work I did was more than five years ago when I migrated our pubs group from Word to FrameMaker as our standard tool. Our docs were all in Word 95, which meant the macros were written in Word Basic rather than Visual Basic for Applications, which I am much less familiar with. I had a flock of separate small macros that each did relatively simple operations like: - removing manual page breaks - removing empty paragraphs - searching for paragraph styles that were not part of the standard template - searching for manually applied character formatting (i.e. not using our template's defined character styles) - removing all autonumbering (done by SEQ codes in Word) - dealing with annotations, hidden text, and other background content - replacing linked graphics with placeholders that identified the source file - removing irrelevant field codes (including *lots* of empty index entry fields) - deleting the Word TOC, LOT, LOF, and index Then I had a couple of more complex macros that did things like renaming all the Word styles to the new names that were defined in the FrameMaker templates, and converting some of the fancy stuff we had done on our API reference pages from the Word implementation to a FrameMaker way of doing things. The final macro burst the monolithic Word docs into a series of separate files on chapter boundaries. The end result was a set of small, clean files that could be imported into the FrameMaker templates with a minimum of muss and fuss. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Robotti Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Converting Word doc to Frame I've converted thousands of pages using only Word (with macros to do a bunch of clean-up pre conversion) and FrameMaker. Fred, could you elaborate on these macros? What do they do, and how do they work? Thanks, Anne ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting Word doc to Frame
I've converted thousands of pages using only Word (with macros to do a bunch of clean-up pre conversion) and FrameMaker. But my process only worked well because the Word documents all followed the template/stylesheet very closely. I did find that the conversion worked better by opening a copy of the FrameMaker template and using FileImportFileCopy Into Document rather than trying to open the Word document directly. Tables converted reasonably well, and with the use of Rick Quatro's excellent TableCleaner plug-in they became well-behaved Frame tables with only a little work. Figures, on the other hand, I removed before conversion (using a macro) and re-inserted by reference after conversion. Trying to convert figures directly was more trouble than it was worth. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:29 PM To: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Converting Word doc to Frame Guys, I know this has been discussed before, but what is the best tool to use to convert a word doc (with text, tables and images) to a Frame doc. Thanks, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) NANOmetrics, Inc. 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.435.9600 x 316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.