RE: Deleting Color Definitions
The extra colors are used in some graphic(s) in the template that uses an 'indexed color' model instead of a full true color palette. This could be a logo on a master page, icons on reference pages, etc. If the output is to be grayscale and one spot color, replace any images with grayscale equivalents if at all possible. Or get true color versions of the images, which do not add items to Frame's color catalog. Once you have replaced the images, you either will not see the extra color definitions, or can readily deleted those not wanted in the production version of the template. On Friday, July 11, 2008 10:41, Howard Rauch wrote: | Frame 7.0p76 | Windows XP | I am creating a template for the third version of a catalog that is | to be printed in grayscale and one spot color. Since the catalog has | involved quite a number of drafts to establish the layout and has | gradually evolved over time, it has a goodly number of useless RGB | and CMYK color definitions. Although these appear to be harmless | and are, for the most part, labeled Don't Print, I would prefer | to delete them, particularly since the catalog is commercially | printed and the printing firm setup crew complains about the RGB | color definitions. Besides, in my view, they unnecessarily consume | resources. | | I have attempted to delete these colors (View/Color/Definitions), | but they are not eliminated after I delete them. A message that | they are being used in the template also does not appear. What | am I overlooking? | | Howard Rauch - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Deleting Color Definitions
Howard Rauch wrote: I am creating a template for the third version of a catalog that is to be printed in grayscale and one spot color. Since the catalog has involved quite a number of drafts to establish the layout and has gradually evolved over time, it has a goodly number of useless RGB and CMYK color definitions. Although these appear to be harmless and are, for the most part, labeled Don't Print, I would prefer to delete them, particularly since the catalog is commercially printed and the printing firm setup crew complains about the RGB color definitions. Besides, in my view, they unnecessarily consume resources. I have attempted to delete these colors (View/Color/Definitions), but they are not eliminated after I delete them. A message thet they are being used in the template also does not appear. What am I overlooking? Howard Rauch Lester is probably right about the source of the colors. We had some docs that contained 256-color PNGs, and those added hundreds of RGB x, y, z colors. We replaced the graphics with 24-bit (true color) PNGs, and then ran a script to delete the RGB colors, but they wouldn't go away. What got rid of them was a MIF wash (save FM file as MIF, open that, and save back to FM). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Deleting Color Definitions
I said: We replaced the graphics with 24-bit (true color) PNGs, and then ran a script to delete the RGB colors, but they wouldn't go away. What got rid of them was a MIF wash (save FM file as MIF, open that, and save back to FM). I should have added that, IIRC, the deleting first wasn't even necessary. Once the offending graphics were gone, the MIF wash alone got rid of the RGB colors. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: deleting color definitions
The free version of Toolbox has an option to either Delete All or Delete Unused colors from either a file or book. You can also do the same with paragraph character formats, user-defined variables, x-ref formats, and table formats. http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php The paid version includes many, many more useful features, and either version is highly recommended. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: deleting color definitions
Jon Harvey wrote: I have a few dozen FM documents that each have at least 100 color definitions that I would love to delete. Is there a way to delete them all at once for a given document? Better yet, delete them at the book level? I've tried saving the doc as a MIF file and opening it in notepad but only the default color definitions appear. Strange but true. Carla suggested a tool that may solve your problem. But I'm wondering about your not finding these colors in the MIF. Do they by any chance have names like RGB 080,067,143? If so, the source is probably imported PNG graphics that use indexed color. Each such graphic contains a palette of 256 colors, defined by their RGB values, as in the name example. For some reason, FM adds all these palette colors to its color definitions list. As long as you have 256-color PNGs in your docs, you won't be able to get rid of these color definitions -- you can delete them, but they'll keep coming back. The solution is to open the PNGs in a graphics program and save them as 24-bit (16 million colors) PNGs. Surprisingly, you'll find that the file sizes increase relatively little. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting color definitions
Hello friends, FM 7.2 p158: There is no problem with PNG graphics with a pixel depth of 24 bits (16 mill of colours). However PNG graphics with 8bit pixel depth (256 colours) fill the colour catalogue with numbers of colours named RGB xxx,xxx.xxx. Although you can eleminate these definitions by saving as MIF (they will not be present in the MIF) or Klaus Müllers script Delete Unused Colours, these definitions are back after opening the MIF or saving the cleaned file ⦠IMHO the filter not only fails for these files on import but is invoked also when displaying the file. Klaus Daube Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper Phone: +41-44-422 86 25 FAX: +41-44-422 82 78 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.daube.ch/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting color definitions
Use the CleanImport plugin by electropubs.com. Art On 8/23/06, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to delete multiple color definitions? I am working with a legacy file that has about 50 color definitions in it and they are completely useless. I want to get the file down to about 10. I tried to delete them in the Color Definitions dialog but you can only delete them one at a time there. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Deleting color definitions
Well, if they are spurious colors with names like RGB Color 255, 255, 255, saving the file to MIF and then re-opening it in FrameMaker (or using the Wash via MIF command that comes with the Mif2Go tool) will scrub them out in one operation. But if they are real color definitions, I think you may be stuck with the one-at-a-time method or seeing if it can be scripted via FrameScript. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:52 PM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Deleting color definitions Is there an easy way to delete multiple color definitions? I am working with a legacy file that has about 50 color definitions in it and they are completely useless. I want to get the file down to about 10. I tried to delete them in the Color Definitions dialog but you can only delete them one at a time there. Thanks, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) NANOmetrics, Inc. 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.435.9600 x 316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting color definitions
Ridder, Fred wrote: Well, if they are spurious colors with names like RGB Color 255, 255, 255, saving the file to MIF and then re-opening it in FrameMaker (or using the Wash via MIF command that comes with the Mif2Go tool) will scrub them out in one operation. But if they are real color definitions, I think you may be stuck with the one-at-a-time method or seeing if it can be scripted via FrameScript. ...or you could save the file as MIF and open it in a text editor. Then delete the colour definitions, which appear all together near the top of the mif. Save, close, reopen in FM. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
