RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with commenting enabled for Adobe Reader. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: Export a FM book to single Word file? I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled. OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File Save Book As. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:38 -0700, Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. That's possible, but not a good idea. Word has numerous problems with large files, and a typical Frame book would produce a *very* large Word file. Nonetheless, if you still feel the need to do it, you can make up a new Frame document and import by reference all of the files in your book as insets. You will lose any differences in master pages, and your numbering will be continuous, so any use of $chapnum will not work as expected. But you can then convert the file to a single Word file. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. If it's only a little weird, you've done remarkably well! ;-) If you want the Word files to look almost exactly like the Frame files, with features like sideheads and hyperlinks preserved, have a look at Mif2Go. There's a free, unlimited demo version at: http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm We're the developers of Mif2Go, so we may be biased g, but we don't know of any other tool that gives such a close rendering of Frame files in Word. In addition, Mif2Go produces top-quality HTML and XML (including DocBook and DITA), plus numerous Help formats, from unstructured as well as structured Frame, and can be fully automated. It's also fast and inexpensive. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?
You may want to see if MIF2Go will write a FM book file out as a single .RTF file. I know it'll process books, but I don't know what the output options are. At the same time, you may want to make sure that your reviewers can handle the file in Word, because it's large file / long doc handling is still one of its big weaknesses. I think it's unlikely that Word can handle it. About the third or fourth time that Word chokes on it would be about the time that the reviewers give up, I'd guess. Also, Acrobat 8 Standard is pretty cheap and available for a 30-day eval And enabling reviews is actually the least of its review features. Handling and tracking the review comments is more important, and it excels at that. Cheers, Art On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled. OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File Save Book As. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader? A. Yes, if this functionality has been rights-enabled by the PDF author. Adobe Acrobat or Adobe LiveCycle software lets PDF authors turn on special commenting tools in Adobe Reader on a document-by-document basis. This capability enables Adobe Reader 7.0 users to easily review and mark up PDF files with a variety of commenting and markup tools. You can add sticky notes; indicate text edits; and highlight, cross out, or underline text. You can also add premade or dynamic stamps. Q. Can I add comments to a PDF file with Adobe Reader? A. PDF authors using Adobe LiveCycle(tm) enterprise server and design software can activate special features in their documents that provide additional functionality. These enabled Adobe PDF files allow people with Adobe Reader to save the file to a local hard drive, fill out forms, add comments and other markups, share it with others, and submit a completed document electronically. In addition, Adobe PDF files can be enabled to allow people to digitally sign, certify, and authenticate a document. The first answer does _not_ specify that Acrobat Professional is required to turn on the special commenting tools when the PDF is opened in Adobe Reader. The second answer is more specific, requiring Acrobat Professional or Adobe LiveCycle. In either case, Acrobat Professional will do the job...but depending on what you want your reviewers to do with Adobe Reader, you _may_ be able to get by with a less expensive version of Acrobat. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:09 PM To: 'Frame Users' Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Michale O'Neill write (in part): At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not been updated since Acrobat 7.0. If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html you will clearly see that the feature described as: Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, shapes, and stamps is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat product suite. Fred Ridder _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t get yelled at for suggesting the most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed. -Michael From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Michale O'Neill write (in part): At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not been updated since Acrobat 7.0. If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html you will clearly see that the feature described as: Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, shapes, and stamps is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat product suite. Fred Ridder Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. Check it out. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D. However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe site: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're counting pennies, you can pass. Art 2008/3/20 Michael O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn't get yelled at for suggesting the most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed. -Michael From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file? Michale O'Neill write (in part): At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html: No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not been updated since Acrobat 7.0. If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html you will clearly see that the feature described as: Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, shapes, and stamps is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat product suite. Fred Ridder Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(R)-get your fix. Check it out. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Art Campbell wrote: If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D. However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe site: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're counting pennies, you can pass. Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared review capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the tech writer preparing docs for review. The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the Enable for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader command. -Fred Ridder _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?
I think you're right, Fred. I looked at a copy of Standard and saw that it had the entry and assumed it worked the same way that Pro does. But I leaped to the wrong conclusion. Thanks, Art On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art Campbell wrote: If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D. However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe site: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're counting pennies, you can pass. Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared review capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the tech writer preparing docs for review. The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the Enable for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader command. -Fred Ridder Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
