RE: FM9 Figure and Table Title Auto-Number Errors

2009-06-26 Thread Combs, Richard
In my response to Alison's numbering query, I included one bit of real
stupidity. We corresponded off-list about it, but I thought I'd better
correct myself on-list before I confuse someone else. 

The problem is in this part: 
> > If it matters, my Appendix heading style (Heading1App) is
"A:Appendix
> > :" and my Appendix Table styles are as follows .
> >
> > Table#A 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> > Table#A+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> 
> The "" in the heading style means use upper-case alpha numbering
--
> it's the old way of doing things and works fine in this instance. But
> I'd make it consistent with the rest of your numbering settings and
> replace "" with "<$chapnum>" so it's numbering is controlled by
the
> Chapter numbering settings, as I described above.
> 
> And if you do that, you won't need a separate Heading1App for
appendices
> -- Heading1 will work just fine because the <$chapnum> variable will
> have the appropriate value for whatever book component it's in.

Umm ... yes, you do still need separate Heading1 and Heading1App pgfs.
The <$chapnum> variable will take care of changing "1" to "A," but
nothing's going to automagically change the hardcoded text "Chapter" to
"Appendix." Oops. 

(My excuse is that our template uses the same pgf tag for both because
its autonumber contains only the <$chapnum> variable, no text string. So
I didn't think...)

Sorry 'bout that! I'll slink away now and call it a week... 

Richard


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RE: FM9 Figure and Table Title Auto-Number Errors

2009-06-26 Thread Alison Craig
This worked.

Thanks, Alison

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:03 AM
To: Alison Craig
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM9 Figure and Table Title Auto-Number Errors

Based on what you didn't say, it doesn't sound as if you've set up the
book file to manage the <$chapnum> variable.

In the Book file, highlight the first Appendix, right-click, select
Numbering > Chapter and set the tab to use Alpha characters and start
with 1/A. Apply it and save.

Then highlight the subsequent Appendix files, right-click, select
Numbering > Chapter and set the tab to use Alpha characters and
increment. Apply it and save.

Then update the book and see what it looks like.

Art Campbell
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alison
Craig wrote:
> Within each Chapter and Appendix, Figure and Table titles use an 
> auto-numbering sequence.
>
> The first Table in any Chapter/Appendix starts with the Chapter number of 
> Appendix letter, followed by a dash and then is numbered sequentially 
> (followed by a colon and a title). For example:
>
> Chapter 1: Table 1-1: Title, Table 1-2: Title, etc. (fyi, the Figure 
> auto-numbering has nothing to do with the section number numbering of 1.1, 
> 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1).
>
> Appendix A: Table A-1: Title, Table A-2: Title, etc. (fyi, the Table 
> auto-numbering has nothing to do with the section number numbering of A.1, 
> A.1.1, A.1.1.1).
>
>
> Figures are numbered in the same way (Figure 1-1: Title, Figure 1-2: Title).
>
> After a lot of reading and tweaking, I've managed to make this work perfectly 
> in Chapters - but not in Appendices.
>
> The numbering style for Figures and Tables in CHAPTERS are as follows:
>
> Figure#1 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
> Figure#+ 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
>
> Table#1 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
>
>
> I used the same logic for the APPENDICES, but instead of getting "Table A-1: 
> Title", I get "Table 1-1: Title", "Table 1-2: Title". So they are numbering 
> sequentially, just not with the Appendix letter.
>
> After 3-1/2 years, I still don't have any Figures in the Appendices so I'll 
> cross that bridge if I come to it at some in the future.
>
> If it matters, my Appendix heading style (Heading1App) is "A:Appendix :" 
> and my Appendix Table styles are as follows .
>
> Table#A 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#A+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
>
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> Alison
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RE: FM9 Figure and Table Title Auto-Number Errors

2009-06-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Alison Craig wrote: 
 
> The numbering style for Figures and Tables in CHAPTERS are as follows:
> 
> Figure#1 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
> Figure#+ 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
> 
> Table#1 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> 
> 
> I used the same logic for the APPENDICES, but instead of getting
"Table A-
> 1: Title", I get "Table 1-1: Title", "Table 1-2: Title". So they are
> numbering sequentially, just not with the Appendix letter.

The numbering settings for figures and tables are fine, both for
chapters and appendices. The problem is that chapter numbering isn't set
properly for the appendices. In the book window, select the first
appendix, right-click, and select Numbering. In the Numbering Properties
dialog, select the Chapter tab. Set Chapter # to 1 and Format to
ALPHABETIC (N). Then click Set. Verify that in subsequent appendices,
Chapter is set to Continue Numbering From Previous File in Book. Then
update the book, and everything should be fine. 
 
> After 3-1/2 years, I still don't have any Figures in the Appendices so
I'll
> cross that bridge if I come to it at some in the future.
> 
> If it matters, my Appendix heading style (Heading1App) is "A:Appendix
> :" and my Appendix Table styles are as follows .
> 
> Table#A 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#A+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:

The "" in the heading style means use upper-case alpha numbering --
it's the old way of doing things and works fine in this instance. But
I'd make it consistent with the rest of your numbering settings and
replace "" with "<$chapnum>" so it's numbering is controlled by the
Chapter numbering settings, as I described above. 

And if you do that, you won't need a separate Heading1App for appendices
-- Heading1 will work just fine because the <$chapnum> variable will
have the appropriate value for whatever book component it's in. 

The information about numbering in the user manual (and help) does a
pretty decent job of explaining this stuff. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: FM9 Figure and Table Title Auto-Number Errors

2009-06-26 Thread Art Campbell
Based on what you didn't say, it doesn't sound as if you've set up the
book file to manage the <$chapnum> variable.

In the Book file, highlight the first Appendix, right-click, select
Numbering > Chapter and set the tab to use Alpha characters and start
with 1/A. Apply it and save.

Then highlight the subsequent Appendix files, right-click, select
Numbering > Chapter and set the tab to use Alpha characters and
increment. Apply it and save.

Then update the book and see what it looks like.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alison
Craig wrote:
> Within each Chapter and Appendix, Figure and Table titles use an 
> auto-numbering sequence.
>
> The first Table in any Chapter/Appendix starts with the Chapter number of 
> Appendix letter, followed by a dash and then is numbered sequentially 
> (followed by a colon and a title). For example:
>
> Chapter 1: Table 1-1: Title, Table 1-2: Title, etc. (fyi, the Figure 
> auto-numbering has nothing to do with the section number numbering of 1.1, 
> 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1).
>
> Appendix A: Table A-1: Title, Table A-2: Title, etc. (fyi, the Table 
> auto-numbering has nothing to do with the section number numbering of A.1, 
> A.1.1, A.1.1.1).
>
>
> Figures are numbered in the same way (Figure 1-1: Title, Figure 1-2: Title).
>
> After a lot of reading and tweaking, I've managed to make this work perfectly 
> in Chapters - but not in Appendices.
>
> The numbering style for Figures and Tables in CHAPTERS are as follows:
>
> Figure#1 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
> Figure#+ 1 6A = F:Figure <$chapnum>\+:
>
> Table#1 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
>
>
> I used the same logic for the APPENDICES, but instead of getting "Table A-1: 
> Title", I get "Table 1-1: Title", "Table 1-2: Title". So they are numbering 
> sequentially, just not with the Appendix letter.
>
> After 3-1/2 years, I still don't have any Figures in the Appendices so I'll 
> cross that bridge if I come to it at some in the future.
>
> If it matters, my Appendix heading style (Heading1App) is "A:Appendix :" 
> and my Appendix Table styles are as follows .
>
> Table#A 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
> Table#A+ 1 6A = U:Table <$chapnum>\+:
>
>
> Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> Alison
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