Re: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
It's much faster to print straight from FM then to make a PDF every time I want to print a page or two. Before I finish the doc, I change the printer to PDF, review the pagination and update the book. I could try the Save as PDF option. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 On 28-May-13 5:39 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then distilled it. Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- . ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
I second that request! It's 45 steps to my office printer (one way) and very annoying indeed if I forgot to clear the print to file. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:20 AM To: Framers Subject: Feature Request - Print to File Warning I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team: When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox. Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file (especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please add a warning that Print to File is selected when someone changes the printer? When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't think it is not necessary to have a warning that Print to File is not selected, and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add a warning in this case. Thanks! -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bethany@lakeshore.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bethany.lee%40lakeshore.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Richard, thanks: Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. I had not considered this one (though, I don't think I encountered that). Also, I guess I usually do print from my PDFs and recently switched over to doing a save as PDF anyways. It occurs to me that I was seconding the idea based on memory of how it used to be for me. :-) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:39 AM To: Shmuel Wolfson; Framers Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then distilled it. Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bethany@lakeshore.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bethany.lee%40lakeshore.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to PDF. Craig -Original Message- I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then distilled it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Yep, I do save specific job option files. I think I was focusing (in error) on the SaveAs PDF option rather than the Print Book option you were describing. My mistake. Craig -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:39 AM To: craig...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning Craig Ede wrote: There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to PDF. In the Print Book dialog box, click PDF Setup. On the Settings tab of the dialog box, set PDF Job Options to the job options file you want to use. You do create and save .joboptions files for the specific Distiller job options required by your clients, right? Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Combs, Richard wrote: Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. The last time I saw any formatting actually change when changing printers was 10 years ago, and that was when switching to a non-Postscript printer and an unusual font. Thankfully, FrameMaker is much better about this than, say, Word. Still, it bothers me that this is still an issue. Printer-based fonts should have died with the introduction of Ethernet. Why are we still saddled with this kludge? There's only one factor that should decide the layout of my document, and that's the application in which the document resides. In FM9, when I select a printer that's not 'Adobe PDF' and I try to 'Save as PDF', I get this message: When you create a PostScript file you must rely on system fonts and use document fonts. Please go to the printer properties, Adobe PDF Settings page and turn OFF the option Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I can't set this in the printer properties, so Save as PDF fails unless I select the Adobe PDF printer first. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Also, if you have multiple page sizes in the file, you have to print to file (*.ps), then distill. Admittedly, I am on FM 9, so if this has gone away in FM 11, I'd love to hear about it. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:00 AM To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to PDF. Craig -Original Message- I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then distilled it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
I'd use this site to bring this to their attention - https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: May-28-13 10:20 AM To: Framers Subject: Feature Request - Print to File Warning I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team: When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox. Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file (especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please add a warning that Print to File is selected when someone changes the printer? When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't think it is not necessary to have a warning that Print to File is not selected, and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add a warning in this case. Thanks! -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Shmuel Wolfson wrote: When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox. Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file (especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please add a warning that Print to File is selected when someone changes the printer? When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't think it is not necessary to have a warning that Print to File is not selected, and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add a warning in this case. I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then distilled it. Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Craig Ede wrote: There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to PDF. In the Print Book dialog box, click PDF Setup. On the Settings tab of the dialog box, set PDF Job Options to the job options file you want to use. You do create and save .joboptions files for the specific Distiller job options required by your clients, right? Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
