Re: Frame vs Word - the decision
> I for one think that my time is more valuable when I am writing, rather than > reformatting or performing work arounds that Word requires. > > But then most of management under values what other people do. *sigh* So true...so true. Laura, make sure you multiply the time it will take to get documentation done by 3. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame vs Word - the decision
I for one think that my time is more valuable when I am writing, rather than reformatting or performing work arounds that Word requires. But then most of management under values what other people do. On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:00, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Since FrameMaker has raised their prices of upgrades (for two versions back), > I tend to agree with them that it is a very costly tool. The best > justification would be single sourcing if you use it frequently. If you don't > them maybe it isn't worth the price. (Please take the hint Adobe.) > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > 052-763-7133 > > On 20-Sep-12 10:48 AM, la...@lavadome.net wrote: >> Hi all >> >> You may remember a while back I asked for help regarding arguments I could >> use to persuade my company to use Framemaker for its docs. >> >> I'm sorry to report I have lost the argument. >> >> "Even though the quality of Word may have minor disadvantages, the cost and >> consequence of shifting to Framemaker is not justified. Unless there is a >> fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please >> stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker." >> >> Yours, despondently. >> >> Laura >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame vs Word - the decision
Since FrameMaker has raised their prices of upgrades (for two versions back), I tend to agree with them that it is a very costly tool. The best justification would be single sourcing if you use it frequently. If you don't them maybe it isn't worth the price. (Please take the hint Adobe.) Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 On 20-Sep-12 10:48 AM, la...@lavadome.net wrote: Hi all You may remember a while back I asked for help regarding arguments I could use to persuade my company to use Framemaker for its docs. I'm sorry to report I have lost the argument. "Even though the quality of Word may have minor disadvantages, the cost and consequence of shifting to Framemaker is not justified. Unless there is a fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker." Yours, despondently. Laura ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame vs Word - the decision
Hi Laura, Sorry I didn't notice your original post. Word has some issues with (not an exhaustive list): Long documents Graphics Lists Multi-chapter files Long Documents Word files have been known to go corrupt when documents get too long. Now "long" is a relative term--I'm talking about hundreds of pages per documents. One company I worked with was having text simply disappear from documents and it was costing them $250,000 per year to recover them. Graphics Most people cut-and-paste graphics into Word. This can lead to overly large and corrupt files. Word can link to a graphic like Frame and this will prevent most corruption, but the link option has to be chosen every time you insert a graphic. Plus, as far as I know, there is no collection method for the linked graphics. Lists Cutting-and-pasting lists in Word is a pain since it tries to "think" for you. Frame does exactly what you tell it to do. Word lists can be fixed and renumbered, but it takes additional time to fix it up. Multi-chapter files Creating TOCs and other lists in Word for multiple files is a pain. Not much you can do about it other than to reuse pre-setup Word "books" like you would in Frame. Word does have some benefits too, of course, including the fact that almost everyone has it, saving money. David Creamer IDEAS Training http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1995 Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988 .Unless there is a fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker." ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame vs Word - the decision
Time to look for another job. -Gillian -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of la...@lavadome.net Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame vs Word - the decision Hi all You may remember a while back I asked for help regarding arguments I could use to persuade my company to use Framemaker for its docs. I'm sorry to report I have lost the argument. "Even though the quality of Word may have minor disadvantages, the cost and consequence of shifting to Framemaker is not justified. Unless there is a fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker." Yours, despondently. Laura ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gillian.fl...@nexenta.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gillian.flato%40nexenta.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame vs Word - the decision
My deepest condolences. Nadine - Original Message - > From: "la...@lavadome.net" > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:48:55 AM > Subject: Frame vs Word - the decision > > Hi all > > You may remember a while back I asked for help regarding arguments I could > use > to persuade my company to use Framemaker for its docs. > > I'm sorry to report I have lost the argument. > > "Even though the quality of Word may have minor disadvantages, the cost and > consequence of shifting to Framemaker is not justified. Unless there is a > fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please > stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker." > > Yours, despondently. > > Laura > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
