Re: FrameMaker Server User Interface??

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Randy,

Don't overlook FrameScript as an automation tool for FrameMaker Server 
development. FrameScript is only $149 per seat (http://www.framescript.com). 
Even adding the cost of custom scripts, your total investment can be a 
fraction of what some of the other products cost.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No
documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe
customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT
department tells us that we need  software programming to build the
interface for the control/security/access features. to the tune of
$25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me
since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department
installed in a few hours.
Has the Server version changed?
And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and must be
integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either
purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited)
or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit.
I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What
experiences do other Listers have for FM Server?
TIA,

Randy

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RE: FrameMaker Server User Interface??

2007-04-19 Thread Max Dunn
 this floored me since the last time it 
 was a single CD that a one-person IT 
 department installed in a few hours.
 Has the Server version changed?

No, it hasn't changed. There are still things you can do with it pretty
much as is, although the server form is just a license, (the software
on the cd is identical between server and desktop!); expense will
depend on which you choose from the many server side ways you can use
Frame. It is possible to spend as much as you like on front end systems,
or you can use it via free tools like DZBatcher, plugins you write
yourself, whatever.

 And the Adobe site says that Server needs 
 a companion and must be integrated into 
 a solution before it is ready for use. 
 You can either purchase third-party 
 solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters 
 Limited) or you can build your own solution 
 using Frame Developers Kit.

We have used it extensively with Miramo, and via home-built plugins, and
with DZ Batcher. There are many ways to use it as a server and I could
never figure out from the license the fine line between server usage
of FrameMaker, though in our case it is usually a back end system for
Web PDF generation, which was pretty obvious. Miramo was worth it in
some cases for scalability/ease of administration, though other
solutions cost very little, yet had more time/effort or were simply less
demanding.

Hopefully with the next FrameMaker they will do something to
differentiate server from desktop, and offer some sort of jump start.
$25,000 would not be unreasonable for a robust plugin that would let you
leverage FrameMaker as a server more directly, but that should be the
sort of investment Adobe makes in the product, not each shop has to ante
up, and there are also plenty of alternatives.

If you do end up with Frame Server then in purchasing it, there sure is
a better deal with an upgrade from desktop than an outright
purchase...


Max Dunn
Silicon Publishing



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