Re: Garbage characters in FM9
I got the same sort of effect at one point with the same setup as Alison's. In my case, it seemed to be a low memory problem, and it has not recurred. FWIW, YMMV Jack DeLand :: information design implementation On 3/29/2010 5:44 PM, Alison Craig wrote: I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
Hi Jack Nice to know I'm not the only one. I agree with you in suspecting it may be related to memory, though little do I know about such things. I've been watching FM memory use in the Task Manager. Beginning of day, one doc open: FrameMaker.exe is using 14K. End of day, same doc open (after about 6 hours): it's using 407000K - not good on a 1GB machine. I wonder if that qualifies as a memory leak? Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jdela...@comcast.net] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:12:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I got the same sort of effect at one point with the same setup as Alison's. In my case, it seemed to be a low memory problem, and it has not recurred. FWIW, YMMV Jack DeLand :: information design implementation On 3/29/2010 5:44 PM, Alison Craig wrote: I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rshuttleworth%40avbasesystems.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
Hi Roger, If you decide to investigate, you might consider taking a look at any plugins you have installed. A single line of missing code from a third-party developer can cause memory to hemorrhage. Lord knows I've been guilty and still am occasionally. Russ -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:27:00 -0400 From: Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com To: jdela...@comcast.net Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Message-ID: 20100330122700.e9657...@mail.avbasesystems.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Jack Nice to know I'm not the only one. I agree with you in suspecting it may be related to memory, though little do I know about such things. I've been watching FM memory use in the Task Manager. Beginning of day, one doc open: FrameMaker.exe is using 14K. End of day, same doc open (after about 6 hours): it's using 407000K - not good on a 1GB machine. I wonder if that qualifies as a memory leak? Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jdela...@comcast.net] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:12:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I got the same sort of effect at one point with the same setup as Alison's. In my case, it seemed to be a low memory problem, and it has not recurred. FWIW, YMMV Jack DeLand :: information design implementation On 3/29/2010 5:44 PM, Alison Craig wrote: I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
Hi Russ Thanks for the tip. I don't have any plugins installed. I have TCS2, with FM 9.0 p250, but nothing else added. The measurements I mentioned were with no other TCS component running. Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: r...@weststreetconsulting.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:20:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Hi Roger, If you decide to investigate, you might consider taking a look at any plugins you have installed. A single line of missing code from a third-party developer can cause memory to hemorrhage. Lord knows I've been guilty and still am occasionally. Russ -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:27:00 -0400 From: Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com To: jdela...@comcast.net Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Message-ID: 20100330122700.e9657...@mail.avbasesystems.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Jack Nice to know I'm not the only one. I agree with you in suspecting it may be related to memory, though little do I know about such things. I've been watching FM memory use in the Task Manager. Beginning of day, one doc open: FrameMaker.exe is using 14K. End of day, same doc open (after about 6 hours): it's using 407000K - not good on a 1GB machine. I wonder if that qualifies as a memory leak? Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jdela...@comcast.net] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:12:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I got the same sort of effect at one point with the same setup as Alison's. In my case, it seemed to be a low memory problem, and it has not recurred. FWIW, YMMV Jack DeLand :: information design implementation On 3/29/2010 5:44 PM, Alison Craig wrote: I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rshuttleworth%40avbasesystems.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
Disregarding a leak, since there isn't a lot you can do about it but note that one exists, I'd look at getting more RAM. If you only have 1 G on board, you should have several open slots, and RAM is cheap right now. Easiest way to boost performance would be to go to at least 2, and probably 4G. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com wrote: Hi Russ Thanks for the tip. I don't have any plugins installed. I have TCS2, with FM 9.0 p250, but nothing else added. The measurements I mentioned were with no other TCS component running. Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: r...@weststreetconsulting.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:20:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Hi Roger, If you decide to investigate, you might consider taking a look at any plugins you have installed. A single line of missing code from a third-party developer can cause memory to hemorrhage. Lord knows I've been guilty and still am occasionally. Russ -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:27:00 -0400 From: Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com To: jdela...@comcast.net Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Message-ID: 20100330122700.e9657...@mail.avbasesystems.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Jack Nice to know I'm not the only one. I agree with you in suspecting it may be related to memory, though little do I know about such things. I've been watching FM memory use in the Task Manager. Beginning of day, one doc open: FrameMaker.exe is using 14K. End of day, same doc open (after about 6 hours): it's using 407000K - not good on a 1GB machine. I wonder if that qualifies as a memory leak? Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 Join us May 17-18th for a 2-day WinAirWeb Accounting Conference. You will learn about the WinAirWeb Accounting Portal, decreasing data entry, improving workflow, tracking transaction history, key reports, and more. Register today at market...@av-basesystems.com or 519.691.0919 option 4. _ From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jdela...@comcast.net] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:12:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I got the same sort of effect at one point with the same setup as Alison's. In my case, it seemed to be a low memory problem, and it has not recurred. FWIW, YMMV Jack DeLand :: information design implementation On 3/29/2010 5:44 PM, Alison Craig wrote: I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rshuttleworth%40avbasesystems.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http
RE: Garbage characters in FM9
I haven't touched the maker.ini in months and I noticed recently that some of my files insist that the fonts Times New Roman and Adobe Minion Pro exist within the book files - which is ridiculous as I only EVER use 3 fonts (Arial, Courier New and Symbol). I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. I'll have to do some very careful checking. Thanks for the heads up. (This is where human proofreading would come in handy but it feels like nobody but me ever seems to read what I write :- at least not within the company.) Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LW White Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:53 PM To: FrameUsersDigest Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Mike, Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of certain letters. Best, Leigh --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key moves right. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
Mike, Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of certain letters. Best, Leigh --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key moves right. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Garbage characters in FM9
I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key moves right. Weird! It sounds a bit like the behavior of some of the practical joke programs that tend to show up around April Fool's Day. Users secretly install them on co-workers' computers to make them behave in mysterious ways. The user normally fesess up to the joke after a few minutes of fun, and the program is uninstalled. One of the PC magazines (I forget which) ran an article within the last month that encouraged even more malicious behavior. They didn't just tell how to install a joke program in the Startup folder. They had examples that included turning off screen icons and replacing the wallpaper with a screen capture that mimics the desktop before turning off the icons. So icons would not work. And there were worse examples that would require an extremely knowledgeable techie to uncover. I wish I could remember which magazine, so that I could say shame on them specifically. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
