Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for Section 2, etc. Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're done. Art P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file? On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers, here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-). I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for certain reasons. So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame? Michael -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
So Michael, what you're asking is if you can have one format of page numbers on the pages and a second, different format in the Index? Is that correct? *** Just in passing, almost all actions that can be applied to a file can also be applied to every file in a book -- that's the way most FM users ensure consistency. The ability to enforce strict standards is the reason it's a publishing industry standard applications. Art On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Art, Hmm, you lost me a bit. I'm not talking about having numbers in the Headers/Footers. I'm talking about generating Index with these X-PP in it. As to P.S. well, I have a very strict standard on typesetting and all elements MUST be very consistent (plus I do certain actions on the whole product and to do it per file would multiply the time that much), so, to keep it all within fast reach, I do it one-file-way. I can't afford updating my documents wholesale in other words. Michael Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:37:06 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com It's a clunky solution predicated by your keeping the book in one file, but just set up different master pages. The only difference between master pages or sets of master pages would be the differing Xs hard-coded into the footers: one set for Section 1, one set for Section 2, etc. Apply those masters to the appropriate selections of pages and you're done. Art P.S. Why do you think it has to be in a single file? On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Michael Zaichenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers, here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-). I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for certain reasons. So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame? Michael -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
Hi Michael, It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using paragraph autonumbering. First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so. Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries. One of the paras on the page should be: $pagenum Change it to: $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index. Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Zaichenko Sent: 29 May 2008 12:19 To: FrameUsers Users Subject: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL Hello Framers, here I'm presenting an impossible task. :-). I have a 300 pages document which consists of 9 sections. I need to generate an index for it. Page number format should look like this: X-PP, where X is a section number and PP - page number. Had I separate files, that would not be a problem - make a book and off you go. I have 1 and I don't want split it for certain reasons. So, is there a way to accomplish this numbering in one file? I know in InDesign that is totally possible with Section'ing the document. What about Frame? Michael _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert.evans%40arc.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
Hi Rob, This type of building block: $paranumonly[Section] does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square brackets. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi Michael, It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using paragraph autonumbering. First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so. Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries. One of the paras on the page should be: $pagenum Change it to: $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index. Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format. Rob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
Well, what I figured and is working... I added autonumbering to my Section paragraphs. Position of the numbers at the end of the paragraph so it doesn't throw the position off-center and tagged with a chartag that colors it white. $paranumonly[Section] does work fine in generated files providing you have this autonumbering on. Final product looks satisfactory and this method allows me to use more files to generate from - i.e. cross-indexing. Any other thoughts? Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:34 -0400 Hi Rob, This type of building block: $paranumonly[Section] does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square brackets. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi Michael, It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using paragraph autonumbering. First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so. Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries. One of the paras on the page should be: $pagenum Change it to: $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index. Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format. Rob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/biozaichenko%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL
Well spotted Rick, Serves me right for trying it out on a simple file... I'd forgotten that behaviour (or lack of it) in generated files. I guess the other alternative is to not use any other autonumbering in the rest of the document (just like using Word...) Rob -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2008 13:49 To: Robert Evans; FrameUsers Users Subject: Re: IS THIS POSSIBLE AT ALL Hi Rob, This type of building block: $paranumonly[Section] does not work in generated files. You will get the closest previous autonumber to the index marker instead of any that you specify in square brackets. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi Michael, It is possible - provided that your section numbers are generated using paragraph autonumbering. First, if you've not already generated an index for the doc, do so. Then, in the generated index file, view the references pages. There should be a page called IX (with a flow called IX). This page controlls the sort order of the index, and other things like the appearance of index entries. One of the paras on the page should be: $pagenum Change it to: $paranumonly[Section]-$pagenum Where Section should be changed to the paragraph tag you are using for your sections. It's a good idea to use a non-breaking hyphen (esc hyphen h) so that the section and page numbers don't get split in the index. Regenerate the index and you should get the required X-PP format. Rob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
