RE: Monitor issue

2006-08-28 Thread Ridder, Fred
Unless you can't handle the higher purchase price (which does get 
offset somewhat by lower power consumption) or are a hard-core
gamer (and need the fastest possible screen imaging), I don't see 
any good reason not to buy an LCD monitor at this point.  

There are a couple of things to bear in mind, though.

-LCD screens only look good at their native resolution. If the native
resolution is higher than you're used to on your CRT, you may not 
be happy with the smaller size of things like icons and dialog boxes

-You get much higher image quality with LCD monitors that support
digital (DVI) input. Lower-priced LCD monitors may only be analog.
If you're looking at Dell LCDs, the critical trademark to look for is 
UltraSharp, which equates to digital input. But this also assumes
that your video card has a DVI output; if not, you'll want to upgrade 
it to optimally drive your monitor.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: Monitor issue

Hi Framers,

After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went
south. So if 
I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor
that won't 
bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price
range up to 
the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results?

I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using
WinXP Pro, SP2.

Many thanks in advance,
George
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RE: Monitor issue

2006-08-28 Thread Harro de Jong
Doug wrote:

 I suggest you consider forgoing the extra inch and get yourself a 19
 inch monitor.  You could buy 3 or more 19 inch monitors for the price
 of a single 20 inch.  No brainer, I I think.

A no-brainer yes, but the other way round. A 19 all too often only has
1280x1024 resolution. A 20 non-widescreen has 1600x1200 and will allow
you to display a full page (A4) at a reasonable zoom percentage. 
For document editing, a 20 widescreen (1680x1050) isn't the best
choice: fewer vertical pixels means you're scrolling more. 


Harro de Jong 
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Re: Monitor issue

2006-08-28 Thread Doug

I'm getting my pricing info from the Sunday paper, which lists all the
big sales at the local electronics retailers.  You can find 19 inch
monitors at a number of stores for under $200.  Some of them even have
both analog and DVI inputs.

--Doug

On 8/28/06, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know where you're getting your pricing information, Doug,
but it's kind of off-base, or maybe just out of date since the sweet
spot in the price curve keeps moving up. If you check the monitor
lineup at Dell, which includes a range of NEC, ViewSonic, and Planar
models as well as Dell-branded units. Price ranges are:
15 DVI, $200-250
 analog, $170-200
17 DVI, $240-350 (Dell on sale at 204)
 analog $200-225
19 DVI, $240-420 (Dell at 310);
 analog $240-300 (Dell on sale at 203)
20 DVI, $280-1100 (Dell on sale at 415)
20 widescreen Dell $460 (on sale at 390)

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Re: Monitor issue

2006-08-28 Thread Fred Ridder

I don't know where you're getting your pricing information, Doug,
but it's kind of off-base, or maybe just out of date since the sweet
spot in the price curve keeps moving up. If you check the monitor
lineup at Dell, which includes a range of NEC, ViewSonic, and Planar
models as well as Dell-branded units. Price ranges are:
15 DVI, $200-250
 analog, $170-200
17 DVI, $240-350 (Dell on sale at 204)
 analog $200-225
19 DVI, $240-420 (Dell at 310);
 analog $240-300 (Dell on sale at 203)
20 DVI, $280-1100 (Dell on sale at 415)
20 widescreen Dell $460 (on sale at 390)
24 widescreen Dell $880
30 widescreen Dell $1900

Yes, it is *possible* to buy an very expensive 20 monitor
that costs more than three cheap 19 models, but the
realistic savings for dropping an inch from 20 to 19  is
about $100 or roughly 25%, which is about the same
differential percentage as for each step smaller than 19.
So I'd say that the sweet spot is currently shifting from
19 to 20, and the sale price on the 20 widescreen
Dell is pretty sweet, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ





From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Monitor issue
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:02:49 -0500

I suggest you consider forgoing the extra inch and get yourself a 19
inch monitor.  You could buy 3 or more 19 inch monitors for the price
of a single 20 inch.  No brainer, I I think.

--Doug


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Re: Monitor issue

2006-08-28 Thread Laura Lemay


After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just  
went
south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high  
quality

20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors
in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend
over $1000 for equivalent results?



Nearly every design geek I know is buying Dell LCDs.  I have two -- a  
20 square and a 24 widescreen -- and they are amazing.


As you price shop make sure you check cheap stingy bargains for  
current Dell coupons.  You can get a LOT of money off a dell monitor  
with a coupon (and often free shipping).  For example, the 20  
widescreen is $391 right now.  The 24 widescreen is $703.


http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/cheapster/dell-monitors/


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RE: Monitor issue

2006-08-27 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
I'm using the UltraSharp 2007WFP Wide Flat Panel with Height Adjustable Stand 
(copied that right from the Dell site) and it's fantastic. The price is 
currently around US$549, but the wide aspect helps with a place to store 
designers, catalogs, structure view and so on. I recommend this one.

I'm looking to get a new 30 model as soon as it drops under 1K just so that I 
can see two 8.5/11 pages, at 100%, side by side. The current monitor lets me 
see two at 80% without an issue, so if your fonts and layout are set up right, 
the wide monitor may be a real benefit.

Compare the 20, 24 and 30 here: http://tinyurl.com/fzceg

By the way, we bought a second system that uses the same monitor and watch 
movies, play video games and so on with no issues. It's not a big screen TV 
but still really nice.

The only caveat is that you really should get a video card that supports DVI-D 
to take best advantage.

Hope that helps,

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
Publishing Technologies Expert
Publishing Smarter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Newfield
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Monitor issue

Hi Framers,

After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. 
So if 
I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that 
won't 
bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up 
to 
the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results?

I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using WinXP 
Pro, SP2.

Many thanks in advance,
George
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Re: Monitor issue

2006-08-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain

The Dell 20 LCD is a very good value! I use it (at home) and one
of their 24 wide-screen LCD at work. The 20 has 1600x1200 native
resolution, and the 24 has 1920x1200 native.

Excellent results, and there are occasionally sales at Dell on the
LCD monitors. The 20 is often on sale (go to the Small Business
section - the prices are always best there).

Although absolute color accuracy is the reason I also have a Sony
20 GDM-F20 on a third system for images, there is no reason to use
a CRT anymore, imho, for general purpose text and image editing.

If you want greater color accuracy, then you can calibrate the LCD
using a Spyder color calibrator.

Z

George Newfield wrote:

Hi Framers,

After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went 
south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 
20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors 
in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend 
over $1000 for equivalent results?


I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using 
WinXP Pro, SP2.


Many thanks in advance,
George
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Re: Monitor issue

2006-08-27 Thread Mike Wickham
After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went 
south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 
20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in 
the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over 
$1000 for equivalent results?


Check out the Dell 2407FPW ($895):

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=ens=dhscs=19sku=320-4335

I've got a 2405FPW, which is the older version of this 24 widescreen LCD 
and love it. It's native resolution is 1920x1200, so it easily holds a 
2-page spread. You can rotate it to portrait mode, too.


Mike Wickham


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