RE: Monitor issue
Unless you can't handle the higher purchase price (which does get offset somewhat by lower power consumption) or are a hard-core gamer (and need the fastest possible screen imaging), I don't see any good reason not to buy an LCD monitor at this point. There are a couple of things to bear in mind, though. -LCD screens only look good at their native resolution. If the native resolution is higher than you're used to on your CRT, you may not be happy with the smaller size of things like icons and dialog boxes -You get much higher image quality with LCD monitors that support digital (DVI) input. Lower-priced LCD monitors may only be analog. If you're looking at Dell LCDs, the critical trademark to look for is UltraSharp, which equates to digital input. But this also assumes that your video card has a DVI output; if not, you'll want to upgrade it to optimally drive your monitor. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Newfield Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:39 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Monitor issue Hi Framers, After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results? I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using WinXP Pro, SP2. Many thanks in advance, George ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Monitor issue
Doug wrote: I suggest you consider forgoing the extra inch and get yourself a 19 inch monitor. You could buy 3 or more 19 inch monitors for the price of a single 20 inch. No brainer, I I think. A no-brainer yes, but the other way round. A 19 all too often only has 1280x1024 resolution. A 20 non-widescreen has 1600x1200 and will allow you to display a full page (A4) at a reasonable zoom percentage. For document editing, a 20 widescreen (1680x1050) isn't the best choice: fewer vertical pixels means you're scrolling more. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Monitor issue
I'm getting my pricing info from the Sunday paper, which lists all the big sales at the local electronics retailers. You can find 19 inch monitors at a number of stores for under $200. Some of them even have both analog and DVI inputs. --Doug On 8/28/06, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know where you're getting your pricing information, Doug, but it's kind of off-base, or maybe just out of date since the sweet spot in the price curve keeps moving up. If you check the monitor lineup at Dell, which includes a range of NEC, ViewSonic, and Planar models as well as Dell-branded units. Price ranges are: 15 DVI, $200-250 analog, $170-200 17 DVI, $240-350 (Dell on sale at 204) analog $200-225 19 DVI, $240-420 (Dell at 310); analog $240-300 (Dell on sale at 203) 20 DVI, $280-1100 (Dell on sale at 415) 20 widescreen Dell $460 (on sale at 390) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Monitor issue
I don't know where you're getting your pricing information, Doug, but it's kind of off-base, or maybe just out of date since the sweet spot in the price curve keeps moving up. If you check the monitor lineup at Dell, which includes a range of NEC, ViewSonic, and Planar models as well as Dell-branded units. Price ranges are: 15 DVI, $200-250 analog, $170-200 17 DVI, $240-350 (Dell on sale at 204) analog $200-225 19 DVI, $240-420 (Dell at 310); analog $240-300 (Dell on sale at 203) 20 DVI, $280-1100 (Dell on sale at 415) 20 widescreen Dell $460 (on sale at 390) 24 widescreen Dell $880 30 widescreen Dell $1900 Yes, it is *possible* to buy an very expensive 20 monitor that costs more than three cheap 19 models, but the realistic savings for dropping an inch from 20 to 19 is about $100 or roughly 25%, which is about the same differential percentage as for each step smaller than 19. So I'd say that the sweet spot is currently shifting from 19 to 20, and the sale price on the 20 widescreen Dell is pretty sweet, too. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Monitor issue Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:02:49 -0500 I suggest you consider forgoing the extra inch and get yourself a 19 inch monitor. You could buy 3 or more 19 inch monitors for the price of a single 20 inch. No brainer, I I think. --Doug _ Got something to buy, sell or swap? Try Windows Live Expo ttp://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex001001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Monitor issue
After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results? Nearly every design geek I know is buying Dell LCDs. I have two -- a 20 square and a 24 widescreen -- and they are amazing. As you price shop make sure you check cheap stingy bargains for current Dell coupons. You can get a LOT of money off a dell monitor with a coupon (and often free shipping). For example, the 20 widescreen is $391 right now. The 24 widescreen is $703. http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/cheapster/dell-monitors/ -- *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Laura Lemay Killer of Trees lemay % lne.comlemay % gmail.com http://www.lauralemay.com http://blog.lauralemay.com *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Monitor issue
I'm using the UltraSharp 2007WFP Wide Flat Panel with Height Adjustable Stand (copied that right from the Dell site) and it's fantastic. The price is currently around US$549, but the wide aspect helps with a place to store designers, catalogs, structure view and so on. I recommend this one. I'm looking to get a new 30 model as soon as it drops under 1K just so that I can see two 8.5/11 pages, at 100%, side by side. The current monitor lets me see two at 80% without an issue, so if your fonts and layout are set up right, the wide monitor may be a real benefit. Compare the 20, 24 and 30 here: http://tinyurl.com/fzceg By the way, we bought a second system that uses the same monitor and watch movies, play video games and so on with no issues. It's not a big screen TV but still really nice. The only caveat is that you really should get a video card that supports DVI-D to take best advantage. Hope that helps, Bernard Bernard Aschwanden Publishing Technologies Expert Publishing Smarter [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.publishingsmarter.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Newfield Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:39 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Monitor issue Hi Framers, After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results? I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using WinXP Pro, SP2. Many thanks in advance, George ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmarter.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Monitor issue
The Dell 20 LCD is a very good value! I use it (at home) and one of their 24 wide-screen LCD at work. The 20 has 1600x1200 native resolution, and the 24 has 1920x1200 native. Excellent results, and there are occasionally sales at Dell on the LCD monitors. The 20 is often on sale (go to the Small Business section - the prices are always best there). Although absolute color accuracy is the reason I also have a Sony 20 GDM-F20 on a third system for images, there is no reason to use a CRT anymore, imho, for general purpose text and image editing. If you want greater color accuracy, then you can calibrate the LCD using a Spyder color calibrator. Z George Newfield wrote: Hi Framers, After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results? I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using WinXP Pro, SP2. Many thanks in advance, George ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Monitor issue
After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend over $1000 for equivalent results? Check out the Dell 2407FPW ($895): http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=usl=ens=dhscs=19sku=320-4335 I've got a 2405FPW, which is the older version of this 24 widescreen LCD and love it. It's native resolution is 1920x1200, so it easily holds a 2-page spread. You can rotate it to portrait mode, too. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.