RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Combs, Richard
Lief Erickson wrote:
 
 My question is do you need Acrobat Pro Extended or will Acrobat Pro
(or
 even Acrobat Standard) suffice?

You need Pro or Pro Extended to create a PDF that reviewers can mark up
with Adobe Reader. The version comparison matrix is at: 

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html 

Richard


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Leif Erikson, Richard Combs wrote:
 
 You need Pro or Pro Extended to create a PDF that reviewers can mark up
 with Adobe Reader. The version comparison matrix is at: 
 
 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html 
 
It's my understanding that what you need the Pro Extended version for
is to implement the shared browser-based review using Acrobat.com
and avoiding the hassle of setting up your own web server with the
(very expensive) Acrobat server extensions software. And the advantage
of the browser-based review workflow over one that uses a file server
is that each reviewer's markup gets merged into the master review file
so that all reviewers see all previous markup/comments. 
 
-Fred Ridder
 
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Art Campbell
The web server option is just that -- a option. Not required.

If you don't use the (free, for now) adobe.com option, you can use any LAN
network folder that allows all reviewers r/w access as the base location for
the review.

Art

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Responding to Leif Erikson, Richard Combs wrote:

  You need Pro or Pro Extended to create a PDF that reviewers can mark up
  with Adobe Reader. The version comparison matrix is at:
 
  http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html

 It's my understanding that what you need the Pro Extended version for
 is to implement the shared browser-based review using Acrobat.com
 and avoiding the hassle of setting up your own web server with the
 (very expensive) Acrobat server extensions software. And the advantage
 of the browser-based review workflow over one that uses a file server
 is that each reviewer's markup gets merged into the master review file
 so that all reviewers see all previous markup/comments.

 -Fred Ridder

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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Litchfield
And, Acrobat Pro allows you  to merge the comments together into one  
pdf.

Alan

On 23/01/2009, at 11:36 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

 The web server option is just that -- a option. Not required.

 If you don't use the (free, for now) adobe.com option, you can use  
 any LAN
 network folder that allows all reviewers r/w access as the base  
 location for
 the review.

 Art

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 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52  
 Vincent and a
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers  
 apply.
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 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com  
 wrote:


 Responding to Leif Erikson, Richard Combs wrote:

 You need Pro or Pro Extended to create a PDF that reviewers can  
 mark up
 with Adobe Reader. The version comparison matrix is at:

 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html

 It's my understanding that what you need the Pro Extended version for
 is to implement the shared browser-based review using Acrobat.com
 and avoiding the hassle of setting up your own web server with the
 (very expensive) Acrobat server extensions software. And the  
 advantage
 of the browser-based review workflow over one that uses a file server
 is that each reviewer's markup gets merged into the master review  
 file
 so that all reviewers see all previous markup/comments.

 -Fred Ridder

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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Owen, Clint
Exactly. That is what they show in the TC2 demonstration.

Clint


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Flato,
Gillian
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:26 PM
To: Mike Wickham; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2
andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like
that feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I
have
CS4
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions,
too.

Mike Wickham


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Flato, Gillian wrote:
 
 When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
makes
 a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
 comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
 and then edit your text?

Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
Acro9ProExtended.

Richard


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

2009-01-21 Thread Fred Ridder

Richard Combs wrote:
 
 Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
 markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
 least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
 functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
 Acro9ProExtended.
 
The review changes are imported into FrameMaker using the Track Text
Edits feature which already has the preview and accept/jecect features
you mention. If FM9 is able to import eht review edits at all, they should 
have all the functionality of the already existing Track Text Edits feature.
 
-Fred Ridder
 
 
 
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