Re: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-24 Thread Steve Johnson
OK, so when you update the Frame file outside of Flare, Flare
automatically gets the changes or do you have to import the Frame file
again?

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 That's simply not true about Flare. I'm compiling a help file right now with
 Flare that was authored in Frame. It's quite easy to set up a project to
 auto-import Frame content from Flare, and Flare adds a menu to Frame so that
 you can create or import projects.
 -=Ed.

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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:25 AM
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stalwarts
 Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8

 You will hear about three commonly:

 WebWorks ePublisher
 RoboHelp
 Flare

 The advantage of using WebWorks, IMHO, is that FrameMaker is your
 authoring environment. If your writers understand how to use
 FrameMaker and it works well for you WebWorks is probably your best
 choice.

 Flare and RoboHelp are each their own authoring environment. If you
 use Flare in particular you shouldn't continue authoring in Frame but
 that's a detail you can decide for yourself.





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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-23 Thread Ed
That's simply not true about Flare. I'm compiling a help file right now with
Flare that was authored in Frame. It's quite easy to set up a project to
auto-import Frame content from Flare, and Flare adds a menu to Frame so that
you can create or import projects.
-=Ed.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:25 AM
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stalwarts
 Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8
 
 You will hear about three commonly:
 
 WebWorks ePublisher
 RoboHelp
 Flare
 
 The advantage of using WebWorks, IMHO, is that FrameMaker is your
 authoring environment. If your writers understand how to use
 FrameMaker and it works well for you WebWorks is probably your best
 choice.
 
 Flare and RoboHelp are each their own authoring environment. If you
 use Flare in particular you shouldn't continue authoring in Frame but
 that's a detail you can decide for yourself.

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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-23 Thread Ed
There is an auto-import function in Flare that automatically reimports the
Frame files when you tell Flare to create the output. It does take awhile to
convert the Frame files to MIF and then to HTML, so it's a good time to get
a beverage.

-=Ed.

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 From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:19 AM
 To: Ed
 Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stalwarts
 Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8
 
 OK, so when you update the Frame file outside of Flare, Flare
 automatically gets the changes or do you have to import the Frame file
 again?

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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-23 Thread Writer
Ed, conceptually, do you have two sources of content in that scenario?

Nadine

--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com
 Subject: RE: Online help generator using FM8
 To: dr_go...@pobox.com
 Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com, 'Stalwarts' 
 stalwa...@gmail.com
 Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:30 AM
 There is an auto-import function in
 Flare that automatically reimports the
 Frame files when you tell Flare to create the output. It
 does take awhile to
 convert the Frame files to MIF and then to HTML, so it's a
 good time to get
 a beverage.
 
 -=Ed.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:19 AM
  To: Ed
  Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com;
 Stalwarts
  Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8
  
  OK, so when you update the Frame file outside of
 Flare, Flare
  automatically gets the changes or do you have to
 import the Frame file
  again?
 
 
 

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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-23 Thread Ed
Nadine-

I personally think it's still single-sourcing, since you're compiling from
the Frame source files. The output is multiple HTML files (since I create
WebHelp), but I don't think that's different than any other WebHelp system.
The conversion from FM to MIF to HTML is invisible; you never use or see the
files unless you really want to look in the temp folder. I believe that RH
works essentially the same way.

-=Ed.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:34 AM
 To: dr_go...@pobox.com; Ed
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; 'Stalwarts'
 Subject: RE: Online help generator using FM8
 
 Ed, conceptually, do you have two sources of content in that scenario?
 
 Nadine

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Re: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-23 Thread Steve Johnson
Last time I used Flare it did not do that. Don't remember what
version. Thanks for the info.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There is an auto-import function in Flare that automatically reimports the
 Frame files when you tell Flare to create the output. It does take awhile to
 convert the Frame files to MIF and then to HTML, so it's a good time to get
 a beverage.

 -=Ed.

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:19 AM
 To: Ed
 Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com; Stalwarts
 Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8

 OK, so when you update the Frame file outside of Flare, Flare
 automatically gets the changes or do you have to import the Frame file
 again?





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Re: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-22 Thread Jim Owens
Besides Webworks Publisher, other options include Mif2Go (which we use) 
-- fast, powerful, highly configurable, extensively documented, and 
reasonably priced, but  better for those with some scripting or 
programming experience; and Adobe RoboHelp (included with FrameMaker in 
Adobe's Technical Suite for Communications) -- intended for easy 
integration, but not as flexible as the other two.


Stalwarts wrote:

Hi -
Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation
using Framemaker 8?

- Nithin
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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Bradley
My current client uses Flare.

 -Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Jim Owens
 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:55 AM
 To: Stalwarts
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8
 
 Besides Webworks Publisher, other options include Mif2Go (which we use)
 -- fast, powerful, highly configurable, extensively documented, and
 reasonably priced, but  better for those with some scripting or
 programming experience; and Adobe RoboHelp (included with FrameMaker in
 Adobe's Technical Suite for Communications) -- intended for easy
 integration, but not as flexible as the other two.
 
 Stalwarts wrote:
  Hi -
  Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation
  using Framemaker 8?
 
  - Nithin
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RE: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-22 Thread David Spreadbury
Nithin,
Probably the most popular tools being used with FrameMaker are:

Flare
RoboHelp
Mif2Go
Webworks

David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer


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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Online help generator using FM8

Hi -
Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation
using Framemaker 8?

- Nithin


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Re: Online help generator using FM8

2010-04-22 Thread Steve Johnson
You will hear about three commonly:

WebWorks ePublisher
RoboHelp
Flare

The advantage of using WebWorks, IMHO, is that FrameMaker is your
authoring environment. If your writers understand how to use
FrameMaker and it works well for you WebWorks is probably your best
choice.

Flare and RoboHelp are each their own authoring environment. If you
use Flare in particular you shouldn't continue authoring in Frame but
that's a detail you can decide for yourself.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Nithin:

 We use ePublisher by WebWorks. We're very happy with it and the support that 
 we get from WebWorks. In addition, the people there are involved with the 
 Yahoo user group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/messages). You 
 can get a trial version at 
 http://www.webworks.com/Products/ePublisher/Free_Trial/.

 Nadine

 --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Stalwarts stalwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Stalwarts stalwa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Online help generator using FM8
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 12:57 AM
 Hi -
 Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online
 help generation
 using Framemaker 8?

 - Nithin
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