Re: Paragraph Style in Header
Probably the easiest way is to create a new file using the default
Book>Chapter template. Go to the master pages, look at the header
structure, which contains the variables for Chapter and Heading1. Then
copy and paste them into your working file's master pages. Adjust the
name of the paragraphs, if yours differ from the default.
Art
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:52 AM, mathieu jacquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like my template header to be formatted this way: "ChapterTitle -
> Heading1".
>
> Imagine I have a Heading1 on page 2 (let's say "Introducing the product") of
> my Chapter 1, then a second Heading1 on page 8 ("Identifying the components").
>
> How do I get a header displaying "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" from
> page 2 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" for the following
> pages.
>
> So far I have "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" on page 2, "Chapter 1 - "
> on pages 3 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" on page 8, and
> again "Chapter 1 - " on page 9 to ..
>
> I'm using FM 7.2 on PC.
>
> Thank you for your help !
>
> Mathieu.
>
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Re: Paragraph Style in Header
Please disregard my off-mark post. I need to get back to my old rule of not
doing anything that requires clarity of mind before ingesting a pot of coffee...
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: mathieu jacquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Framers
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:52:54 AM
Subject: Paragraph Style in Header
Hi all,
I'd like my template header to be formatted this way: "ChapterTitle - Heading1".
Imagine I have a Heading1 on page 2 (let's say "Introducing the product") of my
Chapter 1, then a second Heading1 on page 8 ("Identifying the components").
How do I get a header displaying "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" from
page 2 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" for the following
pages.
So far I have "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" on page 2, "Chapter 1 - "
on pages 3 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" on page 8, and
again "Chapter 1 - " on page 9 to ..
I'm using FM 7.2 on PC.
Thank you for your help !
Mathieu.
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RE: Paragraph Style in Header
To extract information from the body into the page headers, FrameMaker
uses the Running H/F variables in the page headers on the master pages.
For example, the 'default' definition of the Running H/F 1 variable is
<$paratext[Title]> which pulls the text of any paragraph tagged Title
into the header. There are other building blocks for these variables,
such as <$paranum[Tag_name]> to extract the autonumber string of the
specified paragraph tag.
Most importantly, remember that tag names in FrameMaker are case and
space sensitive: Heading1 is a different tag than heading1 or Heading 1.
You can even use a list of paragraphs between the square brackets, such
as <$paratext[Header1, Header2]> and FM will look for either of those
tags to get information into the header. If a tag occurs on the
specific page, Frame uses the first instance if more than one appears;
if not, FM looks back to previous pages to find the most recent instance
of a tag to grab its information. But it will not jump across file
breaks, it will only use information in the current document. You can
even get the LAST instance of a tag on a page by using the construct
<$paratext[-Heaidng1]>, that is, add a hyphen before the tag name inside
the variable definition.
So, to get your chapter number and Heading 1 text, you might need a
Running H/F variable defined as:
"Chapter <$paranum[Chapter]> - <$paratext[Heading 1]>"
(without the quotes) where the initial word is literal text, as are the
spaces and hyphen.
It seems that you have some master pages with the correct header
definitions for your purpose, but that not all the body pages are using
those. Pages 3-7 and 9 apparently use different master pages that
do not get the Heading 1 text, based on your message.
So you either have to add the desired H/F variables to the other master
pages now in use, or re-assign the desired master page layout (via
Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage) to the body pages.
On Wednesday, June 18, 2008 06:53, mathieu jacquet wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| I'd like my template header to be formatted this way: "ChapterTitle -
| Heading1".
|
| Imagine I have a Heading1 on page 2 (let's say "Introducing the
| product") of my Chapter 1, then a second Heading1 on page 8
| ("Identifying the components").
|
| How do I get a header displaying "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product"
| from page 2 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" for
| the following pages.
|
| So far I have "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" on page 2,
"Chapter
| 1 - " on pages 3 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components"
on
| page 8, and again "Chapter 1 - " on page 9 to ..
|
| I'm using FM 7.2 on PC.
|
| Thank you for your help !
|
| Mathieu.
I hope this helps,
- Lester
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Re: Paragraph Style in Header
Hi Mathieu:
You could define the Heading1 autonumber as:
<$chapnum>\t—\t
(using ALT+0151 for the —)
This would read the chapter number setting from the file, so it wouldn't
increment when you use it multiple times in the same file. You could also do
some series numbering settings, but I find this to be the simplest approach.
However, from a readability perspective, it might confuse the reader, because
conventionally the chapter number is presented with the chapter title, and this
format would look like several different chapter titles assigned to the same
chapter number. Collapsed heading levels go against certain well-established
conventions (and with good reason). One way around this is the technical-style
numbered headings (1.1, 1.2, etc.) that provide at-a-glance chapter reference
within the various heading levels. Another way to handle it is to display
chapter info in the master page header as a point of reference. There are a lot
of ways to address the same concern, really...as is usually the case in life!
So, when you implement the layout the way you want it, regardless of your final
solution, I would encourage you to present a sample document to a wide sampling
of representatives of your target audience and ask some well-formed and
open-ended questions about how they interpret/understand the headings and
information hierarchy in the document. Regardless of the tack you take,
usability feedback on templates is always helpful. :-)
Cheers!
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: mathieu jacquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Framers
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:52:54 AM
Subject: Paragraph Style in Header
Hi all,
I'd like my template header to be formatted this way: "ChapterTitle - Heading1".
Imagine I have a Heading1 on page 2 (let's say "Introducing the product") of my
Chapter 1, then a second Heading1 on page 8 ("Identifying the components").
How do I get a header displaying "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" from
page 2 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" for the following
pages.
So far I have "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" on page 2, "Chapter 1 - "
on pages 3 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" on page 8, and
again "Chapter 1 - " on page 9 to ..
I'm using FM 7.2 on PC.
Thank you for your help !
Mathieu.
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Re: Paragraph Style in Header
On the master page, insert a Running H/F variable. Define it as
<$paratext[heading1]> (or whatever your paragraph tag is).
mathieu jacquet wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like my template header to be formatted this way: "ChapterTitle -
> Heading1".
>
> Imagine I have a Heading1 on page 2 (let's say "Introducing the product") of
> my Chapter 1, then a second Heading1 on page 8 ("Identifying the
> components").
>
> How do I get a header displaying "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" from
> page 2 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" for the following
> pages.
>
> So far I have "Chapter 1 - Introducing the product" on page 2, "Chapter 1 - "
> on pages 3 to 7, then "Chapter 1 - Identifying the components" on page 8, and
> again "Chapter 1 - " on page 9 to ..
>
> I'm using FM 7.2 on PC.
>
> Thank you for your help !
>
> Mathieu.
>
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