Re: Straight-through numbering in FM book
It sounds like you've chosen to avoid the <$chapnum> variable, in favor of the system used prior to FM5.5. If so, you'll want to use series labels and long numbering strings to do what the book file lets you easily control. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, all. > > I've switched from chapter numbering to straight-through numbering in a > FrameMaker document. I'm using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. > > Dropping the from the page number setup on the master pages was the > easy part. Here is what I haven't been able to do: > > --Renumber figures and tables so they autonumber consecutively through > multiple chapter files. They restart at 1 with each chapter. Even the > FrameMaker-supplied Book template has this problem! > > --Keep my cross-reference formats from breaking. Specifically, the hyperlink > breaks. See "Figure 3-1" where "Figure 3-1" is a hyperlink becomes See > " Figure 3-1." Why does changing the autonumber format affect the > cross-reference? > > > Please feel free to explain all this in detail, but also, please feel > especially free to email me the autonumbering sequences that work for you for > figures and tables! > > Thanks! > > It's been years since FM has driven me this crazy . . . . > > --Nancy > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Straight-through numbering in FM book
To keep your figure and table numbering from restarting, select the files in your book, right-click and go to Numbering. From the Paragraph tab, set to Continue from Previous Chapter -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, all. > > I've switched from chapter numbering to straight-through numbering in a > FrameMaker document. I'm using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. > > Dropping the from the page number setup on the master pages was the > easy part. Here is what I haven't been able to do: > > --Renumber figures and tables so they autonumber consecutively through > multiple chapter files. They restart at 1 with each chapter. Even the > FrameMaker-supplied Book template has this problem! > > --Keep my cross-reference formats from breaking. Specifically, the hyperlink > breaks. See "Figure 3-1" where "Figure 3-1" is a hyperlink becomes See > " Figure 3-1." Why does changing the autonumber format affect the > cross-reference? > > > Please feel free to explain all this in detail, but also, please feel > especially free to email me the autonumbering sequences that work for you for > figures and tables! > > Thanks! > > It's been years since FM has driven me this crazy . . . . > > --Nancy > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
And note that the "Continue..." option is only available when you set the numbering with the book as the focus. If you are in an individual chapter, the "Continue..." option is not presented because it has no relevance. Only the book knows how chapters are strung together so that's the only place where Continue from Previous Chapter is meaningful. -Fred Ridder Subject: Re: Straight-through numbering in FM book From: m...@mattrsullivan.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:03:57 -0700 To: ma...@verizon.net CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com To keep your figure and table numbering from restarting, select the files in your book, right-click and go to Numbering. From the Paragraph tab, set to Continue from Previous Chapter -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:Hi, all. I've switched from chapter numbering to straight-through numbering in a FrameMaker document. I'm using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. Dropping the from the page number setup on the master pages was the easy part. Here is what I haven't been able to do: --Renumber figures and tables so they autonumber consecutively through multiple chapter files. They restart at 1 with each chapter. Even the FrameMaker-supplied Book template has this problem! --Keep my cross-reference formats from breaking. Specifically, the hyperlink breaks. See "Figure 3-1" where "Figure 3-1" is a hyperlink becomes See " Figure 3-1." Why does changing the autonumber format affect the cross-reference? Please feel free to explain all this in detail, but also, please feel especially free to email me the autonumbering sequences that work for you for figures and tables! Thanks! It's been years since FM has driven me this crazy . . . . --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
Nancy Allison wrote: > I've switched from chapter numbering to straight-through numbering in a > FrameMaker document. I'm using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. > > Dropping the from the page number setup on the master pages was the > easy part. Here is what I haven't been able to do: > > --Renumber figures and tables so they autonumber consecutively through > multiple chapter files. They restart at 1 with each chapter. Even the > FrameMaker-supplied Book template has this problem! Matt provided the answer to this. Just a reminder: Set all numbering properties from the book window (with appropriate files selected), not in the chapter files. > > --Keep my cross-reference formats from breaking. Specifically, the hyperlink > breaks. See "Figure 3-1" where "Figure 3-1" is a hyperlink becomes See > " Figure 3-1." Why does changing the autonumber format affect the > cross-reference? I'm not sure what you're saying. But "" looks like a character format specified in the x-ref format definition. The only reason that would suddenly appear as text in your xrefs is if the Hyperlink character format no longer exists in the document. > Please feel free to explain all this in detail, but also, please feel > especially free to email me the autonumbering sequences that work for you for > figures and tables! For continuously numbered figures (once you set each chapter to continue paragraph numbering as Matt explained) not tied into any other numbering sequence, Autonumber Format can be quite simple: F: Add whatever you want following the autonumber and before the caption -- colon and space, tab (\t), etc. For tables, do the same thing, but with a different series label (F for figures and T for tables makes sense to me, but you can use what you please): T: One other issue you're likely to encounter (if you haven't already) is the page numbering in generated lists (TOC, LOF, LOT, Index). For each of these, you'll have to remove the <$chapnum> variable (and whatever punctuation is associated with it and no longer needed) from the list specification in the reference pages. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Straight-through numbering in FM book
F: Add whatever you want following the autonumber and before the caption -- colon and space, tab (\t), etc. For tables, do the same thing, but with a different series label (F for figures and T for tables makes sense to me, but you can use what you please): T: I'm a big fan of using the same series label for both figures and tables. It makes things so much easier to find. See this document, "The case for simple numbering:" http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/nonum.html Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
Hi Nancy, I do not use the <$chapnum>variable as it could happen that several chapters are in the same FrameMaker file. However, numbering with separate counters and numbering series isn't difficult. My numbering settings are: heading1: H:< =0>< =0>\t heading2: H:.< =0>\t heading3: H:..\t instructiontitle: I:< =0> instruction1: I:\t (not needed, if you guarantee that all authors use instructiontitle ...) instruction: I:\t tabletitle: T:Table : figuretitle: F:Fig. < =0>: figuretitlelabel: F:< >\st-\t (for the paragraphs in the figure title which explain the numbered labels) If you want that your tables and figures use the first counter of the heading numbering, then they must be in the same series and the heading numbering must have three additional counters (if you do not need numbered labels in your figure title, then only two). These are reset to 0 with heading1: heading1: H:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t heading2: H:.< =0>< >< >< >\t heading3: H:..< >< >< >\t tabletitle: H:Table < =0>< =0>< >< >: figuretitle: H:Fig. < =0>< =0>< >< =0>: Don't forget to update the book after you changed the numbering. And I also think that you have a character format defined in your autonumbering string. A hyperlink starts from a change in the character format to the end of this character format. I do not know whether should mean that this text appears or only the area where the hyperlink is active. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:52 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Straight-through numbering in FM book > > Hi, all. > > I've switched from chapter numbering to straight-through numbering in a > FrameMaker document. I'm using FM 10 in a Win 7 environment. > > Dropping the from the page number setup on the master pages > was the easy part. Here is what I haven't been able to do: > > --Renumber figures and tables so they autonumber consecutively through > multiple chapter files. They restart at 1 with each chapter. Even the > FrameMaker-supplied Book template has this problem! > > --Keep my cross-reference formats from breaking. Specifically, the hyperlink > breaks. See "Figure 3-1" where "Figure 3-1" is a hyperlink becomes See > " Figure 3-1." Why does changing the autonumber format affect > the cross-reference? > > > Please feel free to explain all this in detail, but also, please feel > especially > free to email me the autonumbering sequences that work for you for figures > and tables! > > Thanks! > > It's been years since FM has driven me this crazy . . . . > > --Nancy This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
HiHarro, Thank you very much for spotting my mistake. This was a copy/paste mistake. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: Harro de Jong [mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:37 AM > To: Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book > > Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: > > > > If you want that your tables and figures use the first counter of the > > heading numbering, then they must be in the same series and the > > heading numbering must have three additional counters (if you do not > > need numbered labels in your figure title, then only two). These are > > reset to 0 with heading1: > > heading1: H:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > > heading2: H:.< =0>< >< >< >\t > > heading3: H:..< >< >< >\t > > tabletitle: H:Table < =0>< =0>< >< >: > > figuretitle: H:Fig. < =0>< =0>< >< =0>: > > This would increase the Heading1 number at every figure and table, and > reset Heading 2 and Heading 3, so your numbering would look like this: > > chapter 1 > figure 2.1 > chapter 3 > heading 3.1 > figure 4.1 > heading 5.1 > And the last number in the definitions isn't doing anything. > > If you want your figures and tables to have a number that includes the > chapter number, this is a correct setup without <$chapnum>: > > > heading1: H:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > > heading2: H:.< =0>< >< >\t > > heading3: H:..< >< >\t > > tabletitle: H:Table < >< >-< > > > figuretitle: H:Fig. < >< >-< > > > > Harro de Jong > Triview This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: > > If you want that your tables and figures use the first counter of the > heading numbering, then they must be in the same series and the > heading numbering must have three additional counters (if you do not > need numbered labels in your figure title, then only two). These are > reset to 0 with heading1: > heading1: H:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > heading2: H:.< =0>< >< >< >\t > heading3: H:..< >< >< >\t > tabletitle: H:Table < =0>< =0>< >< >: > figuretitle: H:Fig. < =0>< =0>< >< =0>: This would increase the Heading1 number at every figure and table, and reset Heading 2 and Heading 3, so your numbering would look like this: chapter 1 figure 2.1 chapter 3 heading 3.1 figure 4.1 heading 5.1 And the last number in the definitions isn't doing anything. If you want your figures and tables to have a number that includes the chapter number, this is a correct setup without <$chapnum>: > heading1: H:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > heading2: H:.< =0>< >< >\t > heading3: H:..< >< >\t > tabletitle: H:Table < >< >-< > > figuretitle: H:Fig. < >< >-< > Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.