Re: Table Footnotes

2012-03-15 Thread Klaus Daube
On 14 Mar 2012 at 15:57, Joel wrote:

> Apologies if this has been asked before - I attempted to search the
> archives and didn't see any good way to do it.
> I want to put my table footnotes in the last row of the table and I
> can't see a good way to do it. Does anyone have a method? Thanks,

By itself FM puts Table-footnotes after the table.

If you want to have them collected within the table, you need to do it yourself:
- Write the footnotes in an arbitary ¶-format (e.g. tf-table-footnote) into the 
table row
- Define a cross ref format for the references to your footnotes. You may need 
to define an 
appropriate character format also. 
- At the place of the footnote references, insert a crossreference to the 
relevant fopotnote-¶ and 
format this with the defined format.

HTH
Klaus Daube
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RE: Table Footnotes

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Seal
Hi Carla,

I had this problem recently. Here's how I 'faked' it.

I created a 'real' footnote reference in text outside the table, so the
footnote text appears at the bottom of the page with the other 'real'
footnotes. Then I 'hid' the footnote reference by making it white and very
small. Lastly I added a superscript number in the table to resemble the
footnote reference. 
Caution: Although this method will automatically update the footnotes if
there are changes ahead of this table footnote, the fake footnote reference
in the table is not updated automatically, and would have to be updated if
necessary. There is probably a way of automating this.

In my situation I had to make a Framemaker document look like an existing
printed report.

...Chris

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
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Subject: Table Footnotes

I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a
current document.
 
Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of
the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've
got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages
later to find out what it means...
 
I can't seem to find a setting to change this.
 
-Carla
 
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RE: Table Footnotes

2009-05-06 Thread Martinek, Carla
Thanks. 

Fred & Berny's explanations remind me why I quit using table footnotes
years ago, and rewriting the documentation to avoid them.

Now I gotta fix these... Grrr Several tables in several files.

-Carla
 
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RE: Table Footnotes

2009-05-06 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
Hi Carla,
AFAIK, table footnotes have always behaved that way. We also have tables
in our manuals that span several pages and all of the footnotes are at
the bottom of the table. My big pet peeve is when the table is long
enough that the footnotes flip to the top of the next page, without
taking the last row of the table with them. That just looks dumb.


Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Carla
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Table Footnotes

I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a
current document.
 
Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of
the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've
got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages
later to find out what it means...
 
I can't seem to find a setting to change this.
 
-Carla
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RE: Table Footnotes

2009-05-06 Thread Fred Ridder

One answer is to not use the Table Footnote feature per se.

Instead, create a footer row (with spanned cells) and put autonumbered notes 
inside it. Then in your table cells, insert cross-references to the numbers of 
the notes. This approach allows you to reference the same note from multiple 
cells, and all notes will appear on each page if the table breaks across pages.

-Fred Ridder

> Subject: Table Footnotes
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:17:48 -0500
> From: cmarti...@zebra.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> 
> I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a
> current document.
> 
> Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of
> the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've
> got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages
> later to find out what it means...
> 
> I can't seem to find a setting to change this.
> 
> -Carla

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Re: Table footnotes

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Gold
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:
> 
>
> Thank you!  I should have known that...
>
> Problem solved.

Of course you knew it! You just forgot that you knew it. I only reminded you!

Regards,

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RE: Table footnotes

2009-04-17 Thread Martinek, Carla


Thank you!  I should have known that...

Problem solved.

Carla

 

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Table footnotes

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Martinek, Carla 
wrote:
> Is there a way to increase the spacing between the bottom line of the 
> table, and the text in a table footnote? My text appears to be right 
> up against the bottom of the table, and nothing I've tried can get it 
> to move.

The table footnote separator frame on the reference page controls the
spacing below the table, and the position of the separator line within
the frame.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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Re: Table footnotes

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Gold
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:
> Is there a way to increase the spacing between the bottom line of the
> table, and the text in a table footnote? My text appears to be right up
> against the bottom of the table, and nothing I've tried can get it to
> move.

The table footnote separator frame on the reference page controls the
spacing below the table, and the position of the separator line within
the frame.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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