RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the appropriate table format applied. If you bring a Word table into Frame as a table, it coes along with a bunch of properties that you then have to get rid of, like the "custom ruling and shading" flag being set for all cells in the table and the heading row not working properly. Also do yourself a favor and make sure that the Word table doesn't have any merged cells. If you are using my text-only method, you'll have an unequal number of cells in some rows. Or if you're bringing it in as a table, FrameMaker's equivalent functionality (straddle) works *completely* differently under the hood, and the import operation won't correctly figure out how to reconcile the two. -Fred Ridder From: hwinb...@hobartsystems.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 16:24:27 + What is the best way to get a Word table into non-Structured Frame 12. I have had great luck with special paste RTF but ain’t sure. Les ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Second on that approach. > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so > different, > > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > > appropriate table format applied. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
I will second that recommendation. Rick’s TableCleaner is an essential tool if you have to import tables from Word and it has other useful features which make it generally useful in any FrameMaker installation. Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:03 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if you have a tool that does most of the work. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: rob...@lauriston.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
I love it! "Word-ness" is such a wonderfully descriptive term (epithet?). Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com<http://www.analogicultrasound.com> T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:26 AM To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if you have a tool that does most of the work. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables From: ljsims...@gmail.com<mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com> To: rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
Shouldn't that be "Weird-ness?...:) On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:42 PM, "Craig, Alison" wrote: I love it! “Word-ness” is such a wonderfully descriptive term (epithet?). Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix| 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:26 AM To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if you have a tool that does most of the work. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: rob...@lauriston.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
We have 11 books and maybe 160 tables. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:26 PM To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if you have a tool that does most of the work. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables From: ljsims...@gmail.com<mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com> To: rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
It's all in the pronunciation, David! -Fred Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:52:44 -0700 From: dspre...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables To: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Shouldn't that be "Weird-ness?...:) On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:42 PM, "Craig, Alison" wrote: I love it! “Word-ness” is such a wonderfully descriptive term (epithet?). Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:26 AM To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables Yes, TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're importing complete Word documents that contain tables into FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it. But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was the original query), I'll stick with the convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table even if you have a tool that does most of the work. -Fred Ridder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: rob...@lauriston.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Second on that approach. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so different, > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > appropriate table format applied. ___ ___You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com.send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.to unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
On 2014-Jun-18 2:40 PM, Craig, Alison wrote: “Word-ness” is such a wonderfully descriptive term (epithet?). Expletive.:-) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
You can open each Word file in Frame,
then search for each table and apply "No Shading" and set all
ruling to "From Table" to get rid of any custom ruling and all
shading.
To automate finding tables and applying ruling and shading,
install AutoIt and run the script below. (It has to be saved in a
text file an .AU3 extension.)
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133
; This script applies the currently defined custom ruling and shading
; to one or more table cells.
; Before running the script, find "Any Table" and apply the desired
; ruling and shading once.
; Works for FM11. May need minor changes for other versions.
Opt("WinTitleMatchMode", 2) ; matches anywhere in the title
Opt("TrayIconDebug", 1)
Dim $max
Dim $x = 1
$max = InputBox("","How many tables?","10")
WinActivate(".fm")
WinWaitActive(".fm")
While $x <= $max
Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
Send("!tf{DOWN 3}{ENTER}"); opens Custom Ruling and Shading -
; !tfs didn't work
Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
Send("!a") ; apply ruling and shading
Sleep(500) ; wait a 1/2 second
Send("^+f") ; find the next table
$x = $x + 1
WEnd
On 18-Jun-14 10:05 PM, Winberg, Harold wrote:
We
have 11 books and maybe 160 tables.
From:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Lin Sims; Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
Yes,
TableCleaner is absolutely indispensable when you're
importing complete Word documents that contain tables into
FrameMaker. I couldn't do without it.
But for bringing in a single table (which I believe was
the original query), I'll stick with the
convert-to-text-before-copying method. In my experience it
is quicker to apply clean formatting to the cells of one
table that was built from pasted plain text than to fix
all the Word-ness of a table that was pulled in as a table
even if you have a tool that does most of the work.
-Fred Ridder
Date:
Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:02:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: rob...@lauriston.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
And
don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner
plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables
ever so much easier.
On
Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:
Second
on that approach.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Because the Word and FrameMaker table models
are fundamentally so different,
> I find that it is best to only import the
content and nothing relating to
> the "tableness". From Word, first use the
convert table to text command,
> then copy the tab-separated table contents.
Paste the text into Frame and
> then use convert the table to text command to
create a table with the
> appropriate table format applied.
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