RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Robert,

Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed feedback. I will ensure 
that this is sent to the appropriate internal parties.

Regarding my intent in "it's impossible to please everyone," what I was 
referring to is that various feature requests and UI enhancements requested in 
this formats sometimes cancel each other out. Obviously, we can't please 
everyone.



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From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 8:49 AM
To: Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann  wrote:
> FrameMaker is a very powerful, feature-rich product that addresses the 
> needs of very diverse users in many different vertical markets. As a 
> result, it is impossible to please all of us, regarding UI, and other issues.

It's impossible to displease anyone by fixing bugs, or by improving your QA.

There are a lot of serious UI bugs that were introduced in FM9 that from what 
I've heard still haven't been fixed in FM11. You may remember you asked me to 
send you a list of those bugs last year.
Here's another copy.

1. Document window size and position are not saved.

[snip]

11. If I Alt-Tab to FrameMaker from another application, pressing Alt-Tab again 
takes me to another FrameMaker document window (if more than one document is 
open) instead of back to the other application.

I eventually gave up on rearranging FM10's windows and pods, which means I 
don't encounter most of those any more, but I'm probably 10-15% slower as a 
result.
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Robert Lauriston]

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann  wrote:
> FrameMaker is a very powerful, feature-rich product that addresses the needs
> of very diverse users in many different vertical markets. As a result, it is
> impossible to please all of us, regarding UI, and other issues.

It's impossible to displease anyone by fixing bugs, or by improving your QA.

There are a lot of serious UI bugs that were introduced in FM9 that
from what I've heard still haven't been fixed in FM11. You may
remember you asked me to send you a list of those bugs last year.
Here's another copy.

1. Document window size and position are not saved.

2. Docked panels often appear behind the document window, and I have
to resize, minimize, or close the document window to use them. Since
window size and position are not saved, I have to resize them dozens
of times a day.

3. Sometimes I have the opposite problem: the side of a window is
completely blocked by the character or paragraph tag catalog, so I
have to minimize, close, or move the panel before I can resize the
window.

4. When I open a panel, sometimes it appears behind another panel
that's already open, and I have to move one or the other before I can
use it.

5. The first time I press Ctrl-f, I can just type the search string,
but after that the focus within the Find/Change seems to be random, so
I can't.

6. After a book has been open for a while, it no longer responds to
menu commands. I can double-click files to open them or use the
right-click menu, but if I try to select a menu command such as Edit >
Update Book or File > Save As PDF the book window minimizes and is no
longer active. The only workaround I've found is to close and reopen
the book window, which I end up doing dozens of times a day.

7. A separate FrameMaker button appears on the taskbar for each file
that's open.

8. The FrameMaker console window appears behind the application
window. Bringing it to the front is sometimes difficult.

9. When I first start FrameMaker, Ctrl-F6 switches between open
windows. After a while, it stops working. (I can use alt-key menu
navigation.)

10. Alt-key menu letters are not displayed for all menu commands (e.g.
Documents on the Window menu).

11. If I Alt-Tab to FrameMaker from another application, pressing
Alt-Tab again takes me to another FrameMaker document window (if more
than one document is open) instead of back to the other application.

I eventually gave up on rearranging FM10's windows and pods, which
means I don't encounter most of those any more, but I'm probably
10-15% slower as a result.
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Karen Robbins]

Maxwell,

Thanks very much for your reply. It is good to know that someone is
listening. :-)

--Karen
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Robert Lauriston]

By releasing buggy software and charging for fixes?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:21 PM, David Creamer
 wrote:
> I think Adobe's ultimate goal is to get everyone on a subscription plan.
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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

> >My only gripe is the cost of an upgrade. I don't mind paying $400 every few 
> >versions to upgrade, but $400 to upgrade a single version is too much.

> I think Adobe's ultimate goal is to get everyone on a subscription plan. 

Only if you have enough "points" to do so - as evidenced by the recent thread I 
wrote about, they are _not_ going to give me a renewal on my last 2 year Update 
Plan, since it is only for 1 license.

All small number of users (individual and business) are thus shut out with 
overpricing - I think Adobe's ultimate goal is to get them to switch to some 
other tool.

Z 


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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Matt Sullivan]

As a harbinger of things to come: I just got notified that the new and renewal CS Master Suite contracts will no longer be available for sale.They'll honor existing contracts, but then it's on to the subscription plan if I want to license a CS Suite. After expiration of my current plan, I'll have to gauge the financial impact of keeping most of that software around "just in case."
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[David Creamer]

>My only gripe is the cost of an upgrade. I don't mind paying $400 every few
versions to upgrade, but $400 to upgrade a single version is too much.

I think Adobe's ultimate goal is to get everyone on a subscription plan. 

I bought TCS4 with a 2-year maintenance plan to cover upgrades, but found
out that it did not cover new features released to subscription or ASA
plans.
There were features I needed for Captivate, so I bought a TCS4 subscription
for $69 per month. (My other software was moved to secondary computers, so
it didn't go to waste.)

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
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Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988




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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Apr-04 2:05 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote:

Maxwell,


...


Second, and particularly given much of the discussion here lately, that
you would even THINK of putting this in a “next release” fills me with a
sense of utter contempt and disgust. Have you not absorbed the many,
MANY comments from many, MANY people, both here and elsewhere,
complaining that releases 10 and 11 look much more like bug fix releases
then true version upgrades, and that the UI “improvements” dumped upon
us all in version 9 are not improvements at all, in many ways, and break
down constantly? Or are those comments just not part of “we take your
needs very seriously”?


I have to agree.  The complaints about the Stalinesque GUI and the 
unworkable pod scheme began immediately on the release of FM 9, and have 
been totally ignored in two subsequent releases.  It seems sadly clear 
that Adobe's claim of listening to FM's end-users is lip service only.





...


We don’t need “more UI improvements”, you all have “improved”
the UI far too much, far too miserably already. ...

After all, is not the point of FrameMaker, in significant part, to
enable us to work more efficiently and productively than all those Word
users ...

We need our shortcuts back. ALL of them. We need WHATEVER UI you send
our way to work … first time, every time, no matter what. If your
developers don’t know how to manage pods, then get rid of them and
create something simple … that works. (These are obviously just two
examples, not a working list.)



It pains me deeply to have to admit that since "upgrading" to FM 9 and 
10 (via TC$), my productivity has dropped significantly.  No, it's still 
not as bad as "digging to China" in Word's 9-level deep dialogs, but too 
many steps have been taken in that direction.  (Another example: it used 
to be enough to change a graphic's dpi by clicking "Set" in the Graphics 
Scaling dialog box.  Now we also have to remember to find our way back 
to the Object Properties pod and either click "Apply" or press tab 
enough times to focus on that button and then press Enter. Slow, 
cumbersome, retrograde "improvement.")





So …

in the words of Capt. Picard, “Make it so.” Evangelize INSIDE the
company, do whatever it takes, just get it done.



I second the motion.


--
Stuart Rogers
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Elchanan,

I agree that the certain features, especially the pods feature, are not 
worth the bugs. But the red underline feature makes me enjoy working 
with it much more. I don't like to have worry about typos and 
remembering to do spell checks.


I also agree that Abobe should supply a quality, bug-free product, since 
it is quite expensive. If there is a bug, like the zoom level, Adobe 
should fix the bugs in a free patch, not in a paid upgrade. I consider 
the zoom level bug a major bug. I'm surprised they released it, and I'm 
surprised they have not yet released a patch.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
Agreed. This is a major blunder. We
  paid good money for the upgrade and they should fix it in a free
  patch. I'm not planning on paying another $400 for version 12 just
  to have a bug fixed. 
  Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  On 04-Apr-13 5:00 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:


  
  "Or the next release?" A bug fix like this, which would return
  normal functionality, should not require a paid upgrade. It should
  be put in a patch.
  
  Mike Wickham
  
  On 4/3/2013 6:00 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann
wrote:
  
  
Thank you for
bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs very
seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in
either a patch or the next release of FrameMaker.

  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Mike Wickham]

"Or the next release?" A bug fix like this, which would return normal 
functionality, should not require a paid upgrade. It should be put in a 
patch.


Mike Wickham

On 4/3/2013 6:00 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:


Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs 
very seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in either a 
patch or the next release of FrameMaker.




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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> My only gripe is the cost of an upgrade. I don't mind paying $400 every few 
> versions to upgrade, but $400 to upgrade a single version is too much.

Totally agreed.

Z

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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I agree the bugs are annoying, but I really do appreciate the recently 
added features of red underline for spelling mistakes and a history in 
Find/Change dialog box. These features are time savers and make 
FrameMaker more enjoyable to use. I also appreciate the built-in 
scripting language.


My only gripe is the cost of an upgrade. I don't mind paying $400 every 
few versions to upgrade, but $400 to upgrade a single version is too much.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 04-Apr-13 9:05 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote:


Maxwell,

First, I wish to express appreciation for your sharing this 
information on how to get by, given the partial demolition of a 
feature which, to my knowledge, has worked just fine since the release 
of FrameMaker version 1 … that’s version ONE … OH … EN … E … ONE.


Second, and particularly given much of the discussion here lately, 
that you would even THINK of putting this in a “next release” fills me 
with a sense of utter contempt and disgust. Have you not absorbed the 
many, MANY comments from many, MANY people, both here and elsewhere, 
complaining that releases 10 and 11 look much more like bug fix 
releases then true version upgrades, and that the UI “improvements” 
dumped upon us all in version 9 are not improvements at all, in many 
ways, and break down constantly? Or are those comments just not part 
of “we take your needs very seriously”?


I’ve gotta tell ya, it would be far, far more useful to most of us, 
whose needs you take SO very seriously, if you (Adobe, not you 
personally) would have your development team work on NOTHING but bug 
fixes for a year or more … and I mean NOTHING but.


I feel unhappy writing such a harsh response, but this is a bug fix, 
PERIOD. And so is almost everything else discussed here these days. We 
don’t need another scripting language, we already have one that works 
just fine. We don’t need “more UI improvements”, you all have 
“improved” the UI far too much, far too miserably already. We don’t 
need any more features … at least not NEARLY as much as we need the 
core product to just plain WORK!!!


After all, is not the point of FrameMaker, in significant part, to 
enable us to work more efficiently and productively than all those 
Word users etc? Yes? No? Well, just in case the answer is “yes”, 
here’s a news flash for you: When we have to spend countless hours 
figuring out what your substitute development team has broken most 
recently, improved efficiency and productivity are NOT the typical 
outcomes! The same is true when we have to hire someone, not to 
develop incremental functionality, but rather to develop a bug fix 
that Adobe likely won’t provide, not even from here to eternity.


We need our shortcuts back. ALL of them. We need WHATEVER UI you send 
our way to work … first time, every time, no matter what. If your 
developers don’t know how to manage pods, then get rid of them and 
create something simple … that works. (These are obviously just two 
examples, not a working list.)


So …

in the words of Capt. Picard, “Make it so.” Evangelize INSIDE the 
company, do whatever it takes, just get it done.


Kind regards,

Elchanan

FrameMaker user since a VERY long time ago in a galaxy apparently far, 
far removed from anything going on at Adobe today


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Maxwell 
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*Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:01 PM
*To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
*Subject:* RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

Karen,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs 
very seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in either a 
patch or the next release of FrameMaker.


Although the values on line 95 of your maker.ini file will not 
currently display in the zoom pop-up menu (only the first 4 values 
will show), you may sequentially go through all of the listed zoom 
values by holding down control while you move your mouse wheel forward 
or backward.


Summary of tools you can use:

*EDITS TO MAKER.INI FILE:*

You can set the available zoom levels by editing line 95 of the 
maker.ini file:


Zoom=25, 50, 80, 100, 120, 140, 150, 160, 200, 400

*Summary of useful keyboard shortcuts:*

Esc z i = In one zoom setting

Esc z o = Out one zoom setting

Esc z p = Fit Page in window

Esc z w = Fit window to page

Esc z f = Fit window to text frame

Esc zz = Zoom to 100 percent

Please note that you can also manually enter any percentage you wish 
over the value that is displayed in the zoom menu. That zoom value 
will be saved with the document.


We hope that these workarounds help you in short term while we look at 
fixing this issue. This bug has been brought to the attention of Adobe 
product marketing and engineering.


*
---

RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Karen,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We do take your needs very 
seriously, and have marked this issue for resolution in either a patch or the 
next release of FrameMaker.

Although the values on line 95 of your maker.ini file will not currently 
display in the zoom pop-up menu (only the first 4 values will show), you may 
sequentially go through all of the listed zoom values by holding down control 
while you move your mouse wheel forward or backward.

Summary of tools you can use:

EDITS TO MAKER.INI FILE:
You can set the available zoom levels by editing line 95 of the maker.ini file:
Zoom=25, 50, 80, 100, 120, 140, 150, 160, 200, 400

Summary of useful keyboard shortcuts:
Esc z i = In one zoom setting
Esc z o   = Out one zoom setting
Esc z p   = Fit Page in window
Esc z w =  Fit window to page
Esc z f= Fit window to text frame
Esc zz = Zoom to 100 percent

Please note that you can also manually enter any percentage you wish over the 
value that is displayed in the zoom menu. That zoom value will be saved with 
the document.

We hope that these workarounds help you in short term while we look at fixing 
this issue. This bug has been brought to the attention of Adobe product 
marketing and engineering.



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On 21-Feb-13 10:08 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that I cannot set 
custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the functionality of the old dialog box 
(or whatever it was called) removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the 
percentage/drop-down box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an 
entry field until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size 
every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest workflow on the 
planet.

Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set zoom-level 
settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky Mountain Training's blog 
that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most technical writers/editors are not 
programmers and are neither comfortable nor familiar with modifying application 
files this way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what user interfaces 
are for?

--Karen

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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
I think it's a bug in Frame 11 that
  several items are missing from the zoom levels. The online help
  still says you can set the zoom levels via the GUI. 
  
  I wish they would fix this already!
  
  
  
  
  Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  
  On 21-Feb-13 10:08 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just
  noticed that I cannot set custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the
  functionality of the old dialog box (or whatever it was called)
  removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the percentage/drop-down
  box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an entry field
  until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size
  every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest
  workflow on the planet.
  
  Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set
  zoom-level settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky
  Mountain Training's blog that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most
  technical writers/editors are not programmers and are neither
  comfortable nor familiar with modifying application files this
  way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what user
  interfaces are for?
  
  --Karen
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Klaus Mueller]

Hello Steve,

> Sorry, what is?

Probably this one?
http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/

Kind regards,
Klaus

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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Steve Rickaby]

At 14:34 -0800 21/2/13, Matt Sullivan wrote:

>Yep, and it's fully edited!!
>
>Just have to get past PDF output shenanigans; it should be available in the 
>first week of March!

Sorry, what is? This sounds interesting.

[List postings tend to arrive in fragments here, so apologies if this has 
already been answered.]

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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

This works also in other applications like Acrobat, Word or Excel.

I agree that it's very convenient to be able to set the default zoom
levels. I will miss this when I will switch to FM 11. (I am on FM 10 now.)
In my oppinion many of the options in the ini files should be available
in dialogs.

However, most applications do not offer the option to set default
zoom levels. Therefore FrameMaker is ahead of other applications
even if this is now hidden in an ini file.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

Now that is one of the handiest tips I've ever gotten from this list! (And I've 
been around a long time!)
Works in FM10 as well.
Craig

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fwiw, I've gotten used to using the Ctrl-Scroll Wheel to change my zoom 
settings. Pushing the scroll wheel away (up) makes things smaller, while 
dragging toward me (down) increases the magnification.

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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Craig Ede]

Now that is one of the handiest tips I've ever gotten from this list! (And
I've been around a long time!)

Works in FM10 as well.

Craig 

 

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fwiw, I've gotten used to using the Ctrl-Scroll Wheel to change my zoom
settings. Pushing the scroll wheel away (up) makes things smaller, while
dragging toward me (down) increases the magnification.

 

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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Craig Ede]

While this may not meet your needs, you can affect all (or just the selected) 
files in a book by choosing View > Zoom and choosing In, Out, 100%, Fit Page in 
Window (plus a couple of others). I find this useful since my monitor happens 
to fit the page to a full size window at 84%. The fact that this affects 
multiple files more than makes up, to me, for the loss of the ability to 
designate exactly which size to zoom to. If I need some particularly gargantuan 
size factor for a given file, I just type it into that percentage box you 
complain about.
 
Craig
 



Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:08:43 -0800
Subject: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11
From: karendes...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that I cannot set 
custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the functionality of the old dialog box 
(or whatever it was called) removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the 
percentage/drop-down box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an 
entry field until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size 
every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest workflow on the 
planet.

Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set zoom-level 
settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky Mountain Training's blog 
that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most technical writers/editors are not 
programmers and are neither comfortable nor familiar with modifying application 
files this way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what user interfaces 
are for?

--Karen



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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Matt Sullivan]

Yep, and it's fully edited!!

Just have to get past PDF output shenanigans; it should be available in the 
first week of March!


-Matt

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On Feb 21, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Jeff Coatsworth 
 wrote:

> He **is** writing the book on all this ;>)

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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Alison Craig]

Works in FM9 as well! But it scrolls up and down using the settings I've 
defined.

How does it work if you haven't/can't set those in FM 11?

Alison


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;)

-Matt

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Now that is one of the handiest tips I've ever gotten from this list! (And I've 
been around a long time!)
Works in FM10 as well.
Craig

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RE: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Jeff Coatsworth]

He **is** writing the book on all this ;>)


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;)


-Matt

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Now that is one of the handiest tips I've ever gotten from this list! (And I've 
been around a long time!)
Works in FM10 as well.
Craig

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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Matt Sullivan]

;)


-Matt

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On Feb 21, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> Now that is one of the handiest tips I've ever gotten from this list! (And 
> I've been around a long time!)
> Works in FM10 as well.
> Craig

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Re: Zoom Level Settings in FM 11

[Matt Sullivan]

fwiw, I've gotten used to using the Ctrl-Scroll Wheel to change my zoom 
settings. Pushing the scroll wheel away (up) makes things smaller, while 
dragging toward me (down) increases the magnification.


-Matt

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On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Karen Robbins  wrote:

> Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that I cannot set 
> custom zoom levels in FM 11. Why was the functionality of the old dialog box 
> (or whatever it was called) removed? And no, I don't mean typing into the 
> percentage/drop-down box--you know, the one that doesn't even look like an 
> entry field until it is rolled over or clicked in. If I had to type the size 
> every time I needed to change zoom level, I'd have the slowest workflow on 
> the planet.
> 
> Seriously, are users expected to modify an .ini file just to set zoom-level 
> settings? (I understand from Shmuel's tip on Rocky Mountain Training's blog 
> that it's maker.ini line 95.) Most technical writers/editors are not 
> programmers and are neither comfortable nor familiar with modifying 
> application files this way. Seems dangerous for workgroups. Isn't that what 
> user interfaces are for?
> 
> --Karen
> 
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