Re: eps images dissappear after updating the eps
Hi Rick and the other FrameUsers I have just tested this in Fm 7.2 and Fm 10 and, indeed, as soon as I save an Illustrator EPS file in a later version, for example version 8 saved as version 9 (or CS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), the Top and Left offsets of the anchored frame change. I have no idea why this happens, maybe someone from Adobe (Dov) can tell us? I did find a more recent post about this problem in the Adobe forums: http://forums.adobe.com/message/1238889 Indeed, the problem must be related to the way in which Illustrator saves the bounding box of the graphic. The only way to fix this problem is a Framescript, I guess, but I think the only thing which the framescript can do is: 1. Select the anchored frame. 2. Edit Select all in frame. 3. Graphics Align T/B Centers, L/R Centers, because there is no way to know the original position of the graphic in the AFrame. But: * What if the AFrame contains multiple objects, i.e. multiple graphics and/or callouts (text frames or text lines)? * What if the AFrame contains a graphic which is not supposed to be aligned T/B Centers, L/R Centers within the AFrame? Kind regards Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 4:49 PM, Rick Quatro frameexp...@truevine.netwrote: Hi, This is an issue I have ocassionaly seen with FrameMaker over the years: sometimes the Top and Left offsets of an image will change when the image is refiltered. I have never been able to reproduce it on purpose and haven't seen it in Adobe's knowledge base. But I have seen it myself and have read posts from others who have encountered it. Someone mentioned the bounding box changing in the Illustrator file. But even if that were so, why whould the Top and Left offsets change? As usual, my solution is to use FrameScript to reposition the graphics in the anchored frames. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi, If I have a framemaker file with linked eps images and I open the eps images and resave them in a more recent version that the original eps file (i use for example illustrator CS to open the file but they can be made in a previous version of illustrator) then some images just dissappear in the framemaker file. They are just gone, I need to import them again. The strange thing is that this occures with some images but not all. Does anyone have an explanation/solution for this? Thanks! ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to l...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: eps images dissappear after updating the eps
Hi Yves, Yes, I have seen this issue from time to time over the years. The bounding box explanation makes sense, although I have never tested it directly. Your “by hand” solution could be done programmatically with FrameScript. As far as your questions: since it is the imported graphic that gets messed up, this is probably the only graphic in the frame that you want to move. You would not want to move callouts, lines, etc. And you are right: it is impossible to know if the imported graphic was originally centered in the anchored frame, so you may have to make some manual adjustments after the script runs. There is one way you could do this if you can pre-process the FrameMaker documents before updating the images: 1) You would run a script before changing the images that would “mark” the contents of each anchored frame with its current X and Y offsets. Each object’s UserString property could be used to store the information. See http://frameexpert.com/tutorials/graphicstyles.htm for information on the UserString property. 2) You would update the images. 3) You would run another script that would go through the updated images in the FrameMaker documents and make sure each image’s X and Y location matches the value stored in the UserString property; if not, the script would correct it. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:51 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: eps images dissappear after updating the eps Hi Rick and the other FrameUsers I have just tested this in Fm 7.2 and Fm 10 and, indeed, as soon as I save an Illustrator EPS file in a later version, for example version 8 saved as version 9 (or CS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5), the Top and Left offsets of the anchored frame change. I have no idea why this happens, maybe someone from Adobe (Dov) can tell us? I did find a more recent post about this problem in the Adobe forums: http://forums.adobe.com/message/1238889 Indeed, the problem must be related to the way in which Illustrator saves the bounding box of the graphic. The only way to fix this problem is a Framescript, I guess, but I think the only thing which the framescript can do is: 1. Select the anchored frame. 2. Edit Select all in frame. 3. Graphics Align T/B Centers, L/R Centers, because there is no way to know the original position of the graphic in the AFrame. But: * What if the AFrame contains multiple objects, i.e. multiple graphics and/or callouts (text frames or text lines)? * What if the AFrame contains a graphic which is not supposed to be aligned T/B Centers, L/R Centers within the AFrame? Kind regards Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: eps images dissappear after updating the eps
Hi, This is an issue I have ocassionaly seen with FrameMaker over the years: sometimes the Top and Left offsets of an image will change when the image is refiltered. I have never been able to reproduce it on purpose and haven't seen it in Adobe's knowledge base. But I have seen it myself and have read posts from others who have encountered it. Someone mentioned the bounding box changing in the Illustrator file. But even if that were so, why whould the Top and Left offsets change? As usual, my solution is to use FrameScript to reposition the graphics in the anchored frames. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi, If I have a framemaker file with linked eps images and I open the eps images and resave them in a more recent version that the original eps file (i use for example illustrator CS to open the file but they can be made in a previous version of illustrator) then some images just dissappear in the framemaker file. They are just gone, I need to import them again. The strange thing is that this occures with some images but not all. Does anyone have an explanation/solution for this? Thanks! ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
