RE: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText
"Allen, Richard (Raytheon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/01/2007 03:20:42 PM: > An XML document instance is void of formatting. Formatting is left to > the application, AT or FM or IE or... Yeah, but... You did say that was the short answer, and others have already chimed in that setting up applications in each environment is non-trivial. Thought I might chime in with an example: Define "formatting". For procedures, the numbering is important. So how do you perform the numbering? Allowing FM to autonumber works beautifully for works in progress and for FM output. But how to get the SAME numbering in the IEM? How to convey the same numbering to another authoring environment? Not trivial. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText
The short answer is YES XML gets around all of that. The long answer is that an application must be created in AT and a separate application must be created in FM. Setting up these applications is usually a non-trivial effort. BTW any XML compliant product, including IE, will be able to use the very same XML document instance regardless of what application was used in creation or editing. The application that needs to be created for IE is an XSL style sheet which will almost certainly use XSLT. There are XML to PDF products which have nothing to do with FM. An XML document instance is void of formatting. Formatting is left to the application, AT or FM or IE or... This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive mail for the addressee), you should not use, copy or disclose to anyone this message or any information contained in this message. If you have received this message in error, please so advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:09 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText Hi all, First, thanks to everyone who responded to my email on this topic. The information is very helpful and I really do appreciate that you took the time to respond. One of the responses I received mentioned that the company had set up a process to author in AT but was using FM to print because the AT print engine is so slow. So, apparently FM can import the XML that is generated by AT, display it, and print to PDF. Great. Regarding that, I have a couple of XML-newbie questions. What if you wanted to edit an AT-generated XML file in FM, or vice-versa? The authoring tools are very different and do not have the same features. Does XML somhow get around that? (I know, that was two questions. :-) Thanks lots. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/richard.allen%40uspt o.gov Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText
XML sort of gets around it. The content is still the same, but the way that you work with it may be different. HUGE GENERALIZATION FOLLOWS: Think of it like working with HTML files. If we both reference a local stylesheet of c:\formats.css and we customize that one file we have two different looks. Now I open the web pages in Dreamweaver and do stuff. Then I send it to you. You open it in FrontPage and do stuff. We both use the tool of our choice and we both format it as we want. The drawback: If either tool adds its own code then there may be issues. If they don't recognize some code that they should there can be issues. If the tools display content one way for me and I layout a specific page perfectly and then you have different formats my look and feel (and layout) is gone. Then you lay it out perfectly and I mess it up. The problems can go back and forth. However, if we share the style sheets, agree on what code to use and work as carefully as possible with each other then we can share the HTML. Even if our workflow is different. Even if the tools are different. I've been doing this a lot lately with both Frame and XMetaL and have had a lot of luck sharing DITA compliant XML between them. So the answer that I have is: You can edit XML in both AT and FM. Even if the tools are different, the code they share (in the XML file) should be very, very similar, or even the same. You may need to configure/set stuff up, but technically you can do a lot of this. Hope that helps, Bernard Bernard Aschwanden Director of Technology and Publishing Architecture Bright Path Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.brightpathsolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:09 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: one more question -Fame vs. ArborText Hi all, First, thanks to everyone who responded to my email on this topic. The information is very helpful and I really do appreciate that you took the time to respond. One of the responses I received mentioned that the company had set up a process to author in AT but was using FM to print because the AT print engine is so slow. So, apparently FM can import the XML that is generated by AT, display it, and print to PDF. Great. Regarding that, I have a couple of XML-newbie questions. What if you wanted to edit an AT-generated XML file in FM, or vice-versa? The authoring tools are very different and do not have the same features. Does XML somhow get around that? (I know, that was two questions. :-) Thanks lots. Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmarter.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
