Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

2020-04-16 Thread Tom Beiswenger 
Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, 
click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page 
number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me.


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Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and
your text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end.

Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If
it's set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda 
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> I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11.
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> After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the end
> of the file.
>
> How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file has
> been imported into FrameMaker?
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

2020-04-16 Thread Rick Quatro 
Here are the rules that FrameMaker uses for automatic page deletion:

1) Only empty pages that have default master pages applied (Left/Right) at the 
end of the document will be deleted.  By "empty" I mean no text in the 
document's main flow.

2) If the page count is set to even, only empty pages beyond the last even page 
are deleted, which means that you may end up with an empty, even-numbered last 
page.

Here are things that will prevent pages from being automatically deleted:

1) Any empty pages up to and including any pages that have custom master pages 
applied will not be deleted.

2) Any empty pages that have any non-master page items on them will not be 
deleted. This includes non-main flow text frames, graphic objects, etc. that 
are directly on the page.

Rick Quatro
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From: Framers  On 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:24 AM
To: Frameusers List 
Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the 
end of imported file

Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, 
click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page 
number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me.


Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • 
Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com 
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From: Lin Sims
Sent by: "Framers" 
Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM
Subject: Re:  [EXTERNAL]  [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at
the end of imported file

Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your 
text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end.

Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's 
set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda 
wrote:

> I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11.
>
> After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the 
> end of the file.
>
> How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file 
> has been imported into FrameMaker?
>
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

2020-04-16 Thread Craig Ede 
More often than not I have found that page deletion is prevented by an empty 
text box (not a text flow) that was accidentally created on the page that won't 
delete.

Usually this is a result of someone using the graphic text tool and clicking on 
the page, not entering text and then clicking off leaving an empty text entry 
box. By clicking on the margin of the page and then doing a Select All 
(Cntl-A), the text box will show up as a selected item along with all other 
objects on the page (usually just the text flow from the master page). Often 
times there are many of such empty text boxes indicating that somebody was 
twitchy with the text entry tool. Just deselect the pages main text flow and 
hit delete to remove them.

Craig
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

2020-04-17 Thread Harding, Dan 
Additionally, even if a page has a default master page applied, if it has had 
the main text flow dimensions altered in any way, e.g., previously dragging it 
slightly long to allow a cumbersome footnote or other element, that will 
prevent the page from being autodeleted. Technically, I suppose it is then no 
longer using a default master page, but it's easy to miss that simply changing 
an aspect of the text flow would cause the master page to no longer be 
considered default when you didn't consciously change the applied master page.

-Dan

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:38 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the 
end of imported file

Here are the rules that FrameMaker uses for automatic page deletion:

1) Only empty pages that have default master pages applied (Left/Right) at the 
end of the document will be deleted.  By "empty" I mean no text in the 
document's main flow.

2) If the page count is set to even, only empty pages beyond the last even page 
are deleted, which means that you may end up with an empty, even-numbered last 
page.

Here are things that will prevent pages from being automatically deleted:

1) Any empty pages up to and including any pages that have custom master pages 
applied will not be deleted.

2) Any empty pages that have any non-master page items on them will not be 
deleted. This includes non-main flow text frames, graphic objects, etc. that 
are directly on the page.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-729-6746
www.frameexpert.com/store/



-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Tom Beiswenger
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:24 AM
To: Frameusers List 
Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the 
end of imported file

Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, 
click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page 
number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me.


Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • 
Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com 
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From: Lin Sims
Sent by: "Framers" 
Date: 04/16/2020 08:05AM
Subject: Re:  [EXTERNAL]  [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at
the end of imported file

Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your 
text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end.

Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's 
set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM George, Brenda 
wrote:

> I am working in Structured FrameMaker 11.
>
> After the importing the file, there are blank pages appearing at the 
> end of the file.
>
> How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file 
> has been imported into FrameMaker?
>
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

2020-04-17 Thread Craig Ede 
Very true, Dan. So the quick way to delete all extra elements (like empty 
graphic tool text boxes) AND altered master pages is to click in the margin of 
the page, select all on the blank body page and then delete everything. Then 
View>Master page, then back to the body page via View>Body Page, then from the 
Page Layout Warning window select Remove Overrides. This will ensure you have a 
standard Master Page with the given name.
Craig


...snip...

Additionally, even if a page has a default master page applied, if it has had 
the main text flow dimensions altered in any way, e.g., previously dragging it 
slightly long to allow a cumbersome footnote or other element, that will 
prevent the page from being autodeleted. Technically, I suppose it is then no 
longer using a default master page, but it's easy to miss that simply changing 
an aspect of the text flow would cause the master page to no longer be 
considered default when you didn't consciously change the applied master page.

-Dan

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