Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
The last time I had to place Visio drawings in FrameMaker I had some problem with PDF (which worked fine with Excel) so I used EMF, but today I'd use SVG. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:07 PM, Carrie Baker wrote: > A further question. > > What is the best practice for importing Visio to Frame ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
Rather than use OLE, I SaveAs PDF from Viso and import that. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:37 AM Lin Sims wrote: > It got better. Sometime around Visio 2013, I think, they fixed most of the > export issues from Visio to SVG, at least. > > Now, if you're pasting SVGs created by Visio that have images manipulated > in Photoshop to have a white background, you're going to run into problems. > ;-) > > But regular Visio graphics exported to SVG, at least, looks pretty good > these days. > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:50 PM Steve Rickaby < > srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > I've watched this thread with interest. My experience is old, so Visio > may > > have improved, but back in the day we used to have no end of problems > with > > non-Visio-native exports from Visio for use in FrameMaker. I vividly > > remember 'connected' objects that weren't, and 'arcs' and 'circles' that > > were visibly composed of straight-line segments. > > > > I hope things are better now. > > > > -- > > Steve > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
It got better. Sometime around Visio 2013, I think, they fixed most of the export issues from Visio to SVG, at least. Now, if you're pasting SVGs created by Visio that have images manipulated in Photoshop to have a white background, you're going to run into problems. ;-) But regular Visio graphics exported to SVG, at least, looks pretty good these days. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:50 PM Steve Rickaby < srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I've watched this thread with interest. My experience is old, so Visio may > have improved, but back in the day we used to have no end of problems with > non-Visio-native exports from Visio for use in FrameMaker. I vividly > remember 'connected' objects that weren't, and 'arcs' and 'circles' that > were visibly composed of straight-line segments. > > I hope things are better now. > > -- > Steve > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
A further question. What is the best practice for importing Visio to Frame בתאריך יום ד׳, 19 בספט׳ 2018, 23:29, מאת : > Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker > 2017 file? > > Julie A. Sigrist > Quality Assurance > Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc. > 145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B > Wilmington, OH 45177 > (800) 736-3973 x62482 > (937) 366-2482 (Direct) > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
I've watched this thread with interest. My experience is old, so Visio may have improved, but back in the day we used to have no end of problems with non-Visio-native exports from Visio for use in FrameMaker. I vividly remember 'connected' objects that weren't, and 'arcs' and 'circles' that were visibly composed of straight-line segments. I hope things are better now. -- Steve ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
2000 OLE objects would certainly be asking for trouble. It's probably possible to write a VBScript that would go through all the Visio files in a directory, resize them to fit the drawing, and export to SVG or some other format FrameMaker can handle. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:35 AM, wrote: > Thank you for your replies. > > This is my first time having to work with a graphic format I couldn't > reference or not having any control over the format. The book is over 3000 > pages and at least 2000 of those pages are full page graphic images (all > Visio and I do not have the Visio software). If I try and embed by OLE > this many graphics, is my book going to be an unmanageable size? > > Thinking I need to request the company provide me with graphics in a > FrameMaker friendly format. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
Or provide you with a license for Visio. For your purposes, you'd only need Visio Standard (rather than Visio Professional, which adds data linking capabilities and collaborative features that you don't need), which has a list price of $250 for a perpetual license. I've seen Visio offered by third parties for less than $100. I believe that unless you have Visio installed on your computer, you cannot insert Visio graphics as embedded (OLE) objects because the link inherent in OLE is between two applications -- the original app [Visio in this case] and the one that is reusing it [Frame in this case]. The OLE embedding allows you to edit the original graphic from within the FrameMaker UI by double-clicking on it. Note that embedding is *not* the same thing as pasting a graphic into Frame. Nor is it the same as inserting a graphic by reference. They are three separate methods, each of which has its own advantages and disadvantages. But if you wish to pursue your idea of having "the company" (presumably meaning your colleagues...) provide graphics in a FrameMaker-friendly format, my personal suggestion would be PDF, particularly if the graphics originated in a vector drawing application rather than being raster images (e.g., screen shots or photographic images) -FR From: Framers on behalf of julie.sigr...@airbornemx.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:35 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics Thank you for your replies. This is my first time having to work with a graphic format I couldn't reference or not having any control over the format. The book is over 3000 pages and at least 2000 of those pages are full page graphic images (all Visio and I do not have the Visio software). If I try and embed by OLE this many graphics, is my book going to be an unmanageable size? Thinking I need to request the company provide me with graphics in a FrameMaker friendly format. Julie A. Sigrist Quality Assurance Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc. 145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B Wilmington, OH 45177 (800) 736-3973 x62482 (937) 366-2482 (Direct) ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6ab21062bddc45d617cf08d61efdf439%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636730473411640440sdata=ce3ytzRQXRElTvm33Ey5HCEnHPwlMHB7T4OECFDFCbM%3Dreserved=0 Archives located at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6ab21062bddc45d617cf08d61efdf439%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636730473411640440sdata=O0GQBL4ZEAPZDfhFu7vZEUEk3%2FpfnO48zczdkmzKEuc%3Dreserved=0 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6ab21062bddc45d617cf08d61efdf439%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636730473411640440sdata=vGHeQvQssYRBPgkHlbjRDJdqMaHErE%2FT9dVoqRSwk%2Fs%3Dreserved=0 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
Thank you for your replies. This is my first time having to work with a graphic format I couldn't reference or not having any control over the format. The book is over 3000 pages and at least 2000 of those pages are full page graphic images (all Visio and I do not have the Visio software). If I try and embed by OLE this many graphics, is my book going to be an unmanageable size? Thinking I need to request the company provide me with graphics in a FrameMaker friendly format. Julie A. Sigrist Quality Assurance Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc. 145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B Wilmington, OH 45177 (800) 736-3973 x62482 (937) 366-2482 (Direct) ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
I believe "Object" = OLE. https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2017/using/using-framemaker-2017/frm_text_tx/Import_and_link_methods-.htm On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > I thought embedding was importing by copy, not reference? Although I grant > you, I assumed this was a Windows platform given she is talking about Visio. > > BTW, Julie, if this IS Windows and Visio, remember to shrink the Visio > canvas down around the drawing, or, depending on the size of the drawing, > you could be looking at a lot of empty space. > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:02 PM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > >> That's embedding an OLE object. Might be appropriate or not depending >> on many factors. >> >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Lin Sims wrote: >> > Yes. >> > >> >1. File > Import > Object, select Microsoft Visio Drawing from the >> list >> >2. Select Create from File >> >3. Select Link >> >4. Click OK. >> > >> > Step 3 is important if you want changes to the Visio diagram to be >> updated >> > to the FrameMaker file. >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM wrote: >> > >> >> Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker >> >> 2017 file? >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
I thought embedding was importing by copy, not reference? Although I grant you, I assumed this was a Windows platform given she is talking about Visio. BTW, Julie, if this IS Windows and Visio, remember to shrink the Visio canvas down around the drawing, or, depending on the size of the drawing, you could be looking at a lot of empty space. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:02 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > That's embedding an OLE object. Might be appropriate or not depending > on many factors. > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Yes. > > > >1. File > Import > Object, select Microsoft Visio Drawing from the > list > >2. Select Create from File > >3. Select Link > >4. Click OK. > > > > Step 3 is important if you want changes to the Visio diagram to be > updated > > to the FrameMaker file. > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM wrote: > > > >> Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker > >> 2017 file? > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
That's embedding an OLE object. Might be appropriate or not depending on many factors. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > Yes. > >1. File > Import > Object, select Microsoft Visio Drawing from the list >2. Select Create from File >3. Select Link >4. Click OK. > > Step 3 is important if you want changes to the Visio diagram to be updated > to the FrameMaker file. > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM wrote: > >> Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker >> 2017 file? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
I tried various approaches a few years ago and ended up exporting the Visio drawings to EMF and placing those by reference in FrameMaker. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:41 AM, wrote: > Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker > 2017 file? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017 and Visio Graphics
Yes. 1. File > Import > Object, select Microsoft Visio Drawing from the list 2. Select Create from File 3. Select Link 4. Click OK. Step 3 is important if you want changes to the Visio diagram to be updated to the FrameMaker file. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:19 PM wrote: > Is it possible to import by reference Visio graphics into a FrameMaker > 2017 file? > > Julie A. Sigrist > Quality Assurance > Airborne Maintenance and Engineering Services, Inc. > 145 Hunter Drive, Bldg. 1005-B > Wilmington, OH 45177 > (800) 736-3973 x62482 > (937) 366-2482 (Direct) > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
