Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Hedley,

Nice to hear from you!
Yes. You can buy a regular personal licence
and install it on your own PC.
Or you can subscribe and get all upgrades (which I prefer).

Best regards

Winfried

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From: Framers 
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Of Hedley Finger
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Subject: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM with a 
licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only available by
(crippling) monthly subscription?

Regards to friends old and new.
Hedley

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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

While I tend to prefer the perpetual license model myself, the subscription
actually works out to a little over 50% of the full license over an
18-month period ($539.82‬ versus $999), which is the now established
timespan between releases. If you want to keep upgrading each time a new
release comes out, it's actually cheaper.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger 
wrote:

> I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM with a
> licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only available by
> (crippling) monthly subscription?
>
> Regards to friends old and new.
> Hedley
>
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

Whichever license you buy, you always have to download and install it.
You can buy a one-year license for $360 (which you can pay up front or
in monthly installments of $30) or a permanent license for $1000.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger  wrote:
>
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> licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only available by
> (crippling) monthly subscription?
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Richard Melanson]

Everyone, 

I heard that Adobe is discontinuing support for any type of upgrade for 
perpetual licenses. The Adobe Software assurance is getting eliminated. Can 
anyone confirm??

Rick


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Subject: Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

Whichever license you buy, you always have to download and install it.
You can buy a one-year license for $360 (which you can pay up front or in 
monthly installments of $30) or a permanent license for $1000.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger  wrote:
>
> I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM 
> with a licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only 
> available by
> (crippling) monthly subscription?
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

I've been hearing those rumors for years.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Richard Melanson
 wrote:
>
> Everyone,
>
> I heard that Adobe is discontinuing support for any type of upgrade for 
> perpetual licenses. The Adobe Software assurance is getting eliminated. Can 
> anyone confirm??
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

Adobe no longer supports perpetual licenses for the applications in the
Creative Cloud suite, but FrameMaker is not part of that suite; it is in
the Technical Communications Suite. I have heard no rumors or information
that perpetual licenses are being discontinued for that, but I am checking
to confirm.

Also, in case anyone was worrying, Adobe is NOT discontinuing FrameMaker.
They are currently working on the 4th update to FM2019 and they are
starting development for the next major release. Amitoj is promising "some
great new features".

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Richard Melanson 
wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> I heard that Adobe is discontinuing support for any type of upgrade for
> perpetual licenses. The Adobe Software assurance is getting eliminated. Can
> anyone confirm??
>
> Rick
>
>
> Richard Melanson
> Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions
> T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com
> www.highresbio.com???
>
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> this message from your system.  Thank you.-Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=
> highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 8:16 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker
>
> Whichever license you buy, you always have to download and install it.
> You can buy a one-year license for $360 (which you can pay up front or in
> monthly installments of $30) or a permanent license for $1000.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM
> > with a licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only
> > available by
> > (crippling) monthly subscription?
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

Amitoj has posted an update on the Adobe forums, here:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2630359

Here's the text if you don't want to go look:

This is to announce that, as of 1 July 2019, Adobe Software Assurance (ASA)
> or Maintenance and Support (M&S) perpetual channel licensing plans (new &
> renewal) are being discontinued worldwide for the following products:
>

>1. Adobe Technical Communication Suite
>2. Adobe FrameMaker
>3. Adobe FrameMaker Publishing Server
>4. Adobe RoboHelp
>5. Adobe RoboHelp Server
>
>
> Customers  will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all the
> above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized resellers) under
> Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative Licensing Program
> (CLP) even after 1 July 2019. Customers who are currently enrolled for
> Adobe Software Assurance (ASA) or Maintenance and Support (M&S) plans for
> any of the above-mentioned products will continue to avail of all the
> benefits for these programs till the expiry date of the current contract.
>
> Additionally, customers will still be able to purchase Gold Support for
> the perpetual licenses of all the above-mentioned products.


I don't speak legalese or corporate-ese, so I'm not sure what this means.
I'm asking techc...@adobe.com for clarification, since I, personally, own
TCS as an individual on a perpetual license and if it's being moved to
subscription only I may want to update to FM2019 now rather than wait for
whatever comes next ...

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Richard Melanson 
wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> I heard that Adobe is discontinuing support for any type of upgrade for
> perpetual licenses. The Adobe Software assurance is getting eliminated. Can
> anyone confirm??
>
> Rick
>
>
> Richard Melanson
> Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions
> T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com
> www.highresbio.com???
>
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> this message from your system.  Thank you.-Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=
> highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 8:16 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker
>
> Whichever license you buy, you always have to download and install it.
> You can buy a one-year license for $360 (which you can pay up front or in
> monthly installments of $30) or a permanent license for $1000.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM
> > with a licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only
> > available by
> > (crippling) monthly subscription?
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

The products are always installable. A perpetual license just means
the software will work indefinitely.

As I read that, if you want a perpetual license for FM 2019, upgrade
before July 1.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:33 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> Amitoj has posted an update on the Adobe forums, here:
> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2630359
>
> Here's the text if you don't want to go look:
>
> This is to announce that, as of 1 July 2019, Adobe Software Assurance (ASA)
> > or Maintenance and Support (M&S) perpetual channel licensing plans (new &
> > renewal) are being discontinued worldwide for the following products:
> >
>
> >1. Adobe Technical Communication Suite
> >2. Adobe FrameMaker
> >3. Adobe FrameMaker Publishing Server
> >4. Adobe RoboHelp
> >5. Adobe RoboHelp Server
> >
> >
> > Customers  will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all the
> > above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized resellers) under
> > Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative Licensing Program
> > (CLP) even after 1 July 2019. Customers who are currently enrolled for
> > Adobe Software Assurance (ASA) or Maintenance and Support (M&S) plans for
> > any of the above-mentioned products will continue to avail of all the
> > benefits for these programs till the expiry date of the current contract.
> >
> > Additionally, customers will still be able to purchase Gold Support for
> > the perpetual licenses of all the above-mentioned products.
>
>
> I don't speak legalese or corporate-ese, so I'm not sure what this means.
> I'm asking techc...@adobe.com for clarification, since I, personally, own
> TCS as an individual on a perpetual license and if it's being moved to
> subscription only I may want to update to FM2019 now rather than wait for
> whatever comes next ...
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:20 AM Richard Melanson 
> wrote:
>
> > Everyone,
> >
> > I heard that Adobe is discontinuing support for any type of upgrade for
> > perpetual licenses. The Adobe Software assurance is getting eliminated. Can
> > anyone confirm??
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > Richard Melanson
> > Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions
> > T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com
> > www.highresbio.com???
> >
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> > this message from your system.  Thank you.-----Original Message-
> > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=
> > highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 8:16 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> > framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker
> >
> > Whichever license you buy, you always have to download and install it.
> > You can buy a one-year license for $360 (which you can pay up front or in
> > monthly installments of $30) or a permanent license for $1000.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:55 PM Hedley Finger 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been away for a very long time. Is it possible to download FM
> > > with a licence and install it on your own computer? Or is only
> > > available by
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

I'm not sure about that. He specifically said:

*Customers  will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses* of all the
above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized resellers) under
Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative Licensing Program
(CLP) *even after 1 July 2019*.


However, as I said, I don't speak corporate or legal, so I've asked for
clarification. All the programs he talks about are aimed at corporations
buying in bulk (which they seem to define as more than 9 licenses?); I have
no idea what this means for individuals or for companies that do not buy in
bulk.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:35 AM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> The products are always installable. A perpetual license just means
> the software will work indefinitely.
>
> As I read that, if you want a perpetual license for FM 2019, upgrade
> before July 1.
>
>

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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

I have a response from Amitoj. He says:

The above announcement would not impact :
> a) individual (retail) perpetual users
> b) users who have bought licenses in a difference licensing program than
> those mentioned above


So it sounds like it will remain possible for individuals to purchase a
permanent license.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I'm not sure about that. He specifically said:
>
> *Customers  will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses* of all the
> above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized resellers) under
> Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and Cumulative Licensing Program
> (CLP) *even after 1 July 2019*.
>
>
> However, as I said, I don't speak corporate or legal, so I've asked for
> clarification. All the programs he talks about are aimed at corporations
> buying in bulk (which they seem to define as more than 9 licenses?); I have
> no idea what this means for individuals or for companies that do not buy in
> bulk.
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:35 AM Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>
>> The products are always installable. A perpetual license just means
>> the software will work indefinitely.
>>
>> As I read that, if you want a perpetual license for FM 2019, upgrade
>> before July 1.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Carol J. Elkins]

It would be helpful if Amitoj/Adobe make it very clear on their web 
site where individual perpetual users can purchase a new license. If 
you look at 
https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html 
there is no option for this. Only subscription, enterprise, and 
education. The same situation exists for TechComm Suite.


Carol

At 10:07 AM 6/21/2019, Lin Sims wrote:

I have a response from Amitoj. He says:

The above announcement would not impact :
> a) individual (retail) perpetual users
> b) users who have bought licenses in a difference licensing program than
> those mentioned above


So it sounds like it will remain possible for individuals to purchase a
permanent license.


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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

In a follow-up response on the Forums, Amitoj says that this information is
available on the Buying Guides:

TCS:
https://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/buying-guide.html
FrameMaker: https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/buying-guide.html

I expect other buying guides are available for the other individual
components of TCS. He provided the TCS link, I googled "adobe buying guide
framemaker" to find the one for FrameMaker.

Options are available to buy perpetual licenses or subscriptions, on either
an individual or enterprise level basis. I hope this helps.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Carol J. Elkins 
wrote:

> It would be helpful if Amitoj/Adobe make it very clear on their web
> site where individual perpetual users can purchase a new license. If
> you look at
> 
> https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html
> there is no option for this. Only subscription, enterprise, and
> education. The same situation exists for TechComm Suite.
>
> Carol
>
> At 10:07 AM 6/21/2019, Lin Sims wrote:
> >I have a response from Amitoj. He says:
> >
> >The above announcement would not impact :
> > > a) individual (retail) perpetual users
> > > b) users who have bought licenses in a difference licensing program
> than
> > > those mentioned above
> >
> >
> >So it sounds like it will remain possible for individuals to purchase a
> >permanent license.
>
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

A correction from Amitoj:  The Gold Support program is also being
discontinued as of July 1, 2019.

So, according to Amitoj, the following programs are being discontinued:

Gold Support
ASA
M&S

This information is not yet available at the customer support site for TCS.
https://helpx.adobe.com/tech-comm-suite/customer-support.html



On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 2:05 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> In a follow-up response on the Forums, Amitoj says that this information
> is available on the Buying Guides:
>
> TCS:
> https://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/buying-guide.html
> FrameMaker: https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/buying-guide.html
>
> I expect other buying guides are available for the other individual
> components of TCS. He provided the TCS link, I googled "adobe buying guide
> framemaker" to find the one for FrameMaker.
>
> Options are available to buy perpetual licenses or subscriptions, on
> either an individual or enterprise level basis. I hope this helps.
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Carol J. Elkins 
> wrote:
>
>> It would be helpful if Amitoj/Adobe make it very clear on their web
>> site where individual perpetual users can purchase a new license. If
>> you look at
>> 
>> https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html
>> there is no option for this. Only subscription, enterprise, and
>> education. The same situation exists for TechComm Suite.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>> At 10:07 AM 6/21/2019, Lin Sims wrote:
>> >I have a response from Amitoj. He says:
>> >
>> >The above announcement would not impact :
>> > > a) individual (retail) perpetual users
>> > > b) users who have bought licenses in a difference licensing program
>> than
>> > > those mentioned above
>> >
>> >
>> >So it sounds like it will remain possible for individuals to purchase a
>> >permanent license.
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Robert Lauriston]

Does that mean individual perpetual licenses will still be available
but only with limited support?

I don't know what ASA and M&S are.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:23 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> A correction from Amitoj:  The Gold Support program is also being
> discontinued as of July 1, 2019.
>
> So, according to Amitoj, the following programs are being discontinued:
>
> Gold Support
> ASA
> M&S
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Re: [Framers] Installable FrameMaker

[Lin Sims]

I believe it means that perpetual licenses are still available to
individuals and businesses, but people buying the various support programs
will need to check with Adobe about support options going forward as their
support contracts expire.

I would assume that individuals will have the same support they've always
had.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 9:31 AM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Does that mean individual perpetual licenses will still be available
> but only with limited support?
>
> I don't know what ASA and M&S are.
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:23 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > A correction from Amitoj:  The Gold Support program is also being
> > discontinued as of July 1, 2019.
> >
> > So, according to Amitoj, the following programs are being discontinued:
> >
> > Gold Support
> > ASA
> > M&S
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