Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hey all,Ironically we are just prolonging the agony about this - can we all agree to have different opinions about this situation and just move on? This list is one of the few where antagonism is not the norm and that is too valuable to ruin. Thanks!Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: "Harding, Dan" Date: 8/22/19 3:36 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners I agree. There was nothing wrong at all with Stefan's reply. He was trying to explain the reasons for the spam, how it occurred, and what Adobe is planning in order to remedy it.There was no "rapping of knuckles" at all, IMO.This is a symptom of the age we now live in: people are on a hair trigger when it comes to being offended by just about anything and everything.Cue incoming accusation of being offended by this reply in 3... 2... 1... -Dan-Original Message-From: Framers On Behalf Of Richard MelansonSent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:27 PMTo: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe PartnersI have to admit I am "baffled" as to how Carol got that impression from Stephan's email. I am offended that Carol has called out Stephan publicly. This whole request should have happened privately. But I am staying on this list because it is too valuable to be to ask to be removed because I feet offended. RickRichard MelansonTechnical Writer|HighRes BiosolutionsT:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.comwww.highresbio.com This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you.-Original Message-From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stefan GentzSent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:57 PMTo: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe PartnersHi Carol,I did not, in any way, want to rap on Tammy's knuckles, and I'm ashamed that one could read this out my mail.Also, I'm very sad to hear that you have decided to be no longer an Adobe Partner. However, we fully respect your decision, and I have initiated the process to remove your profile and all associated data with it (I don't have the "rights" to do that). Once this process is through, I will update you off-list.Regards,Stefan GentzSenior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication -Original Message-From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. ElkinsSent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 19:20To: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe PartnersStephan, I would like to ask you to remove my entry entirely. Although this list isn't the appropriate place to ask this, for some reason, I've taken offense at your replies to this thread. I know you didn't mean them as such, but when I read your reply to Tammy, I felt like you were rapping her knuckles. I have never gained a client from my listing on Adobe's site. I always want to minimize spam (which I always filter out before downloading), and because I get over 300 spam emails a day, every one I can eliminate will help).So thank you for your help.Carol ElkinsA Written Word LLCAt 11:09 AM 8/22/2019, Stefan Gentz wrote:>I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only >shows "United Kingdom" now.>Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed.___This message is from the Framers mailing listSend messages to mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.comSend administrative questions to mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___This message is from the Framers mailing listSend messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.comSend administrative questions to listadmin@frameusers.com___This message is from the Framers mailing listSend messages to framers@lists.frameusers.comVisit the list's homepage at http://www.f
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
I agree. There was nothing wrong at all with Stefan's reply. He was trying to explain the reasons for the spam, how it occurred, and what Adobe is planning in order to remedy it. There was no "rapping of knuckles" at all, IMO. This is a symptom of the age we now live in: people are on a hair trigger when it comes to being offended by just about anything and everything. Cue incoming accusation of being offended by this reply in 3... 2... 1... -Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:27 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners I have to admit I am "baffled" as to how Carol got that impression from Stephan's email. I am offended that Carol has called out Stephan publicly. This whole request should have happened privately. But I am staying on this list because it is too valuable to be to ask to be removed because I feet offended. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you.-Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:57 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Hi Carol, I did not, in any way, want to rap on Tammy's knuckles, and I'm ashamed that one could read this out my mail. Also, I'm very sad to hear that you have decided to be no longer an Adobe Partner. However, we fully respect your decision, and I have initiated the process to remove your profile and all associated data with it (I don't have the "rights" to do that). Once this process is through, I will update you off-list. Regards, Stefan Gentz Senior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 19:20 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Stephan, I would like to ask you to remove my entry entirely. Although this list isn't the appropriate place to ask this, for some reason, I've taken offense at your replies to this thread. I know you didn't mean them as such, but when I read your reply to Tammy, I felt like you were rapping her knuckles. I have never gained a client from my listing on Adobe's site. I always want to minimize spam (which I always filter out before downloading), and because I get over 300 spam emails a day, every one I can eliminate will help). So thank you for your help. Carol Elkins A Written Word LLC At 11:09 AM 8/22/2019, Stefan Gentz wrote: >I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only >shows "United Kingdom" now. >Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-arch
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
I have to admit I am "baffled" as to how Carol got that impression from Stephan's email. I am offended that Carol has called out Stephan publicly. This whole request should have happened privately. But I am staying on this list because it is too valuable to be to ask to be removed because I feet offended. Rick Richard Melanson Technical Writer|HighRes Biosolutions T:781.932.1912x1160|rmelan...@highresbio.com www.highresbio.com This e-mail message may contain confidential information and may not be used by anyone but the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify HighRes Biosolutions immediately by reply email. Then delete this message from your system. Thank you.-Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rmelanson=highresbio@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:57 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Hi Carol, I did not, in any way, want to rap on Tammy's knuckles, and I'm ashamed that one could read this out my mail. Also, I'm very sad to hear that you have decided to be no longer an Adobe Partner. However, we fully respect your decision, and I have initiated the process to remove your profile and all associated data with it (I don't have the "rights" to do that). Once this process is through, I will update you off-list. Regards, Stefan Gentz Senior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 19:20 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Stephan, I would like to ask you to remove my entry entirely. Although this list isn't the appropriate place to ask this, for some reason, I've taken offense at your replies to this thread. I know you didn't mean them as such, but when I read your reply to Tammy, I felt like you were rapping her knuckles. I have never gained a client from my listing on Adobe's site. I always want to minimize spam (which I always filter out before downloading), and because I get over 300 spam emails a day, every one I can eliminate will help). So thank you for your help. Carol Elkins A Written Word LLC At 11:09 AM 8/22/2019, Stefan Gentz wrote: >I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only >shows "United Kingdom" now. >Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hi Carol, I did not, in any way, want to rap on Tammy's knuckles, and I'm ashamed that one could read this out my mail. Also, I'm very sad to hear that you have decided to be no longer an Adobe Partner. However, we fully respect your decision, and I have initiated the process to remove your profile and all associated data with it (I don't have the "rights" to do that). Once this process is through, I will update you off-list. Regards, Stefan Gentz Senior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 19:20 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Stephan, I would like to ask you to remove my entry entirely. Although this list isn't the appropriate place to ask this, for some reason, I've taken offense at your replies to this thread. I know you didn't mean them as such, but when I read your reply to Tammy, I felt like you were rapping her knuckles. I have never gained a client from my listing on Adobe's site. I always want to minimize spam (which I always filter out before downloading), and because I get over 300 spam emails a day, every one I can eliminate will help). So thank you for your help. Carol Elkins A Written Word LLC At 11:09 AM 8/22/2019, Stefan Gentz wrote: >I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only >shows "United Kingdom" now. >Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Stephan, I would like to ask you to remove my entry entirely. Although this list isn't the appropriate place to ask this, for some reason, I've taken offense at your replies to this thread. I know you didn't mean them as such, but when I read your reply to Tammy, I felt like you were rapping her knuckles. I have never gained a client from my listing on Adobe's site. I always want to minimize spam (which I always filter out before downloading), and because I get over 300 spam emails a day, every one I can eliminate will help). So thank you for your help. Carol Elkins A Written Word LLC At 11:09 AM 8/22/2019, Stefan Gentz wrote: I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only shows "United Kingdom" now. Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hi Ian, Your address is shown because you have entered it like that in the "Company Adress field" which is clearly marked as such. That is not a "serious breach of confidence." It's just that you have registered it like that in your profile. I have removed your address from your profile for now, and it only shows "United Kingdom" now. Let me know if you would like to get anything else changed. Regards, Stefan Gentz Senior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of ian.proudf...@itp-x.co.uk Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 11:19 To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners I too have been receiving these annoying spam emails. I just deal with them as I would with any other spam. I am more concerned however that my personal home address is now shown on my page in the partner's portal. I never give out that full information, so this is a serious breach of confidence. Plus the link to my own profile seems to have been broken so I can't fix that myself. This is just a rant here, I have sent an urgent email to Adobe tech comm... Ian Proudfoot ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Interesting. I entered 3 bogus emails and that site said all 3 were pwnd. Useless. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc. 74 Kahler Road North • Horseheads NY 14845 • USA Telephone 1 607 735 2551 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com Privacy Policy: www.bucheremhartglass.com/privacy -"Framers" wrote: - To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." , ian.proudf...@itp-x.co.uk From: Simon BUCH Sent by: "Framers" Date: 08/22/2019 07:11AM Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Hello FrameUsers, I suspect that some of the email addresses may have been sourced from unscrupulous web site that store data from breaches in web site security. It should be remembered that back in October 2013, over 153 million Adobe accounts were breached with each containing an internal ID, username, email, encrypted password and a password hint in plain text. The password cryptography was poorly done and many were quickly resolved back to plain text. The unencrypted hints also disclosed much about the passwords adding further to the risk that hundreds of millions of Adobe customers already faced. The compromised data from this event was: Email addresses, Password hints, Passwords, and Usernames You might want to check your email address using the "Have I Been Pwned?" site: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__haveibeenpwned.com_=DwIGaQ=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=gPTPfIIF88dQx9VR4NPxPPaW4xwZgMII5hB6Hi18ioI=J7vHPVKLcV_SnZelai5yE79N20wTybHacm9_kU3SDOs= // Simon BUCH ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameusers.com=DwIGaQ=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=gPTPfIIF88dQx9VR4NPxPPaW4xwZgMII5hB6Hi18ioI=lIHm_XxVi2etrg51f5QCug8x1vHqu4OYRbu8APY3D8Y= Archives located at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_framers-2540lists.frameusers.com_=DwIGaQ=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=gPTPfIIF88dQx9VR4NPxPPaW4xwZgMII5hB6Hi18ioI=i34mCkT47z-ZOqZT-OJWZ4X0fQYW9ZIq73Jr8Fp3zXw= Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.frameusers.com_listinfo.cgi_framers-2Dframeusers.com=DwIGaQ=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=gPTPfIIF88dQx9VR4NPxPPaW4xwZgMII5hB6Hi18ioI=-0DK-i10U0O_bwX6b1FElBCbX6ms_NgmT_Ma6l8dGc4= Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image.96968242311.png Type: image/png Size: 11081 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20190822/017224c0/attachment.png> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hello FrameUsers, I suspect that some of the email addresses may have been sourced from unscrupulous web site that store data from breaches in web site security. It should be remembered that back in October 2013, over 153 million Adobe accounts were breached with each containing an internal ID, username, email, encrypted password and a password hint in plain text. The password cryptography was poorly done and many were quickly resolved back to plain text. The unencrypted hints also disclosed much about the passwords adding further to the risk that hundreds of millions of Adobe customers already faced. The compromised data from this event was: Email addresses, Password hints, Passwords, and Usernames You might want to check your email address using the "Have I Been Pwned?" site: https://haveibeenpwned.com/ // Simon BUCH ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
I too have been receiving these annoying spam emails. I just deal with them as I would with any other spam. I am more concerned however that my personal home address is now shown on my page in the partner's portal. I never give out that full information, so this is a serious breach of confidence. Plus the link to my own profile seems to have been broken so I can't fix that myself. This is just a rant here, I have sent an urgent email to Adobe tech comm... Ian Proudfoot -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Sent: 21 August 2019 16:35 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners I know many of us, as am I, on this list are Adobe Partners and I was under the impression (perhaps incorrectly) that: 1. Adobe had to ask you to be a partner before you get added to/have access to the list. 2. Adobe monitored the list and didn't allow anyone to sign up unless they could be verified. Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential clients to bolster my business. The email address is a bogus address that changes constantly despite the exact same message being sent, and there is no other contact information such as a valid name/contact number provided. I have been simply sending these cr*p emails to the trash, but the last straw was today when I received an 8 am phone call from one of these spammers, w/ a very heavy accent and the first words out of their mouths was "We found that your company . . " Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given access to this list and maybe kill it that way? Just a stream of thought - and TIA. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
I don't reply to Spam email and I have a spam filter created. As I said, I posted to the list only after I actually received a phone call. And like many other ICs, I have my contact information on my website so potential clients can contact me.I am not looking to start a knuckle wrapping/flame-throwing thread. It just would seem that some spammer has gone to great lengths to harvest this information and I had the same questions as other folks who replied both on and off list about Adobe security for access to this type of info.TVB Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Peter Gold Date: 8/21/19 11:35 AM (GMT-07:00) To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Hi, Tammy:This is what happens when you reply to spam email | James Veitch ...<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwiX46LivZTkAhUKQq0KHUBiCK4QyCkwAHoECAkQBA=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_QdPW8JrYzQ=AOvVaw084CUQc54UMyyOkTBTnT4A>IIRC, when I watched it, there were links to follow-on videos which gave methe feeling that even remedies can drag us off into unwanted territories. ;)Seriously, though, first of all, condolences to you and others who arebeing trolled. Yes, Adobe needs to clean up its own mailing-list andvendor-list security issues.Also, a suggestion worth mentioning: if you haven't already, create yourown SPAM filter for these messages, that sends the messages to your ownTrash folder, and also reports them as SPAM to your enterprise IT folks,your ISP, and if there's an Adobe abuse address, to that venue, also.On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:00 AM wrote:> Well, harrumph. . . but thank you for replying. Misery loves company in> this> case.>> Adobe??? Anyone out there paying attention?>> Tammy Van Boening> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com> www.spectrumwritingllc.com>> -Original Message-> From: Framers> On> Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:57 AM> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners>> Yep, I've been receiving the same emails. Added to Adobe's already> incessant> marketing emails, I just automatically delete them. But someone at Adobe> needs to patrol this. I'm sure there are many Adobe employees on this list> and hopefully they will escalate the concern to the higher-ups.>> Carol>> At 09:34 AM 8/21/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:> >Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from> >trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of> >Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential> >clients to bolster my business.> >> >Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made> >aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given> >access to this list and maybe kill it that way?>> ___>> This message is from the Framers mailing list>> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at> http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> Subscribe and unsubscribe at> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com>> ___>> This message is from the Framers mailing list>> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com> Archives located at> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/> Subscribe and unsubscribe at> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com>>___This message is from the Framers mailing listSend messages to framers@lists.frameusers.comVisit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.comArchives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hi, Tammy: This is what happens when you reply to spam email | James Veitch ... <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=2ahUKEwiX46LivZTkAhUKQq0KHUBiCK4QyCkwAHoECAkQBA=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_QdPW8JrYzQ=AOvVaw084CUQc54UMyyOkTBTnT4A> IIRC, when I watched it, there were links to follow-on videos which gave me the feeling that even remedies can drag us off into unwanted territories. ;) Seriously, though, first of all, condolences to you and others who are being trolled. Yes, Adobe needs to clean up its own mailing-list and vendor-list security issues. Also, a suggestion worth mentioning: if you haven't already, create your own SPAM filter for these messages, that sends the messages to your own Trash folder, and also reports them as SPAM to your enterprise IT folks, your ISP, and if there's an Adobe abuse address, to that venue, also. On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:00 AM wrote: > Well, harrumph. . . but thank you for replying. Misery loves company in > this > case. > > Adobe??? Anyone out there paying attention? > > Tammy Van Boening > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On > Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:57 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners > > Yep, I've been receiving the same emails. Added to Adobe's already > incessant > marketing emails, I just automatically delete them. But someone at Adobe > needs to patrol this. I'm sure there are many Adobe employees on this list > and hopefully they will escalate the concern to the higher-ups. > > Carol > > At 09:34 AM 8/21/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: > >Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from > >trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of > >Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential > >clients to bolster my business. > > > >Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made > >aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given > >access to this list and maybe kill it that way? > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Hi Tammy, Carol et al, I get such emails practically every day as well and other people in my team, too. The thing is, once you have published your email somewhere on the web, you will automatically end up at some point on the lists of such criminals. There is hardly anything one can do except for keeping your email address secret. If those guys got your contact data from your profile on the Adobe Technical Communication Partner Portal (https://partners.adobetechcomm.com/) – might be, might be not. Or maybe from LinkedIn. Or maybe just from your own homepage: https://spectrumwritingllc.com/wordpress/partners/ where you mention your Partnership with Adobe, or https://spectrumwritingllc.com/wordpress/spectrum-writing/contact/ where you expose your email and phone number. I do not see why or how Adobe should or could "patrol" the communication between two third parties. That would be illegal anyway. Regarding the partner portal: We are currently revamping it (while I'm writing). As part of the revamp we thought a lot about how we can, on the one hand, protect the privacy of our partners, and on the other hand, make the communication between people who are interested in your services or products and you as our partner as easy as possible. One result of these discussions is that we introduce a contact form so that potential customers can write to you as a partner through that form. This will eliminate the need for you to expose your email address. However, a "bad guy" can of course also spam you with such a form (while we will further improve this to make it as hard as possible for them. > 1. Adobe had to ask you to be a partner before you get added to/have access > to the list. Everyone can "apply" to become a partner. There is an open application form for this on the partner portal. If we receive an application, we do an intensive background check first to pre-validate the applicant and then go into a one-on-one conversation with the applicant. (Exception: We know the person already personally for a longer time and asked the person to apply). Only if that went through, the company or individual will be approved as a partner. > 2. Adobe monitored the list and didn't allow anyone to sign up unless they > could be verified. That is correct. See my comment above. No one on the partner portal is "unknown" to us, and there are no "fake profiles." Regards, Stefan Gentz Senior Worldwide Evangelist, Technical Communication Adobe DITAWORLD 2019 | October 9–11 Register now for free at www.dita-world.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
I think it would be better to post this in the Adobe forum. All partners are listed at the partners page : https://partners.adobetechcomm.com/ ( currently unavailable) So everybody can find all partner addresses. I don't think that Adobe can stop that kind of spam. So I just delete that spam. Am 21.08.2019 um 17:34 schrieb tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: I know many of us, as am I, on this list are Adobe Partners and I was under the impression (perhaps incorrectly) that: 1. Adobe had to ask you to be a partner before you get added to/have access to the list. 2. Adobe monitored the list and didn't allow anyone to sign up unless they could be verified. Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential clients to bolster my business. The email address is a bogus address that changes constantly despite the exact same message being sent, and there is no other contact information such as a valid name/contact number provided. I have been simply sending these cr*p emails to the trash, but the last straw was today when I received an 8 am phone call from one of these spammers, w/ a very heavy accent and the first words out of their mouths was "We found that your company . . " Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given access to this list and maybe kill it that way? Just a stream of thought - and TIA. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com -- Klaus Göbel (Development) __ 4XScripts - Ute Mitschke Münchenerstraße 35A 82362 Weilheim Tel.: +49 881 12233116 +49 173 9439973 Mail: developm...@4xscripts.com https://4XScripts.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Well, harrumph. . . but thank you for replying. Misery loves company in this case. Adobe??? Anyone out there paying attention? Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners Yep, I've been receiving the same emails. Added to Adobe's already incessant marketing emails, I just automatically delete them. But someone at Adobe needs to patrol this. I'm sure there are many Adobe employees on this list and hopefully they will escalate the concern to the higher-ups. Carol At 09:34 AM 8/21/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: >Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from >trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of >Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential >clients to bolster my business. > >Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made >aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given >access to this list and maybe kill it that way? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: (Kinda') Spam to Adobe Partners
Yep, I've been receiving the same emails. Added to Adobe's already incessant marketing emails, I just automatically delete them. But someone at Adobe needs to patrol this. I'm sure there are many Adobe employees on this list and hopefully they will escalate the concern to the higher-ups. Carol At 09:34 AM 8/21/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: Over the last week and a half, I have been flamed incessantly from trolls stating that "We found your company is related to "Partner of Adobe Computer Software," and offering to sell me a list of potential clients to bolster my business. Has anyone else been receiving this kind of garbage? Can Adobe me made aware of this and perhaps verify to whom they have recently given access to this list and maybe kill it that way? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
