Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
Thanks to everyone for the help. I had to do a repair using the disk. Once I did this, the quotes re-appeared. Something must have been corrupt. Joel On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:22:34 -0500, Joel wrote: > >>That didn't work either. My .ini file already was configured in the >>way that you wanted me to configure it. Is there possibly another .ini >>file that Frame is reading from? > > The second maker.ini is at: > > C:\Documents and Settings\yourloginname\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\8.0 > > But on my system, while it has a [Spelling] section, that section > does *not* contain any SmartQuotes setting. > >>Is there a setting in the menus that I can tweak? Thanks, > > The other option is to turn smart quotes off, and use keyboard > sequences to enter the quotes you want. But it's a PITA... > Here's what I posted about that back in October, before finding > that maker.ini setting: > >>What you need to do is, first, turn off Smart Quotes; >>in Format > Document > Text Options... uncheck the box >>at the top left and Apply. In FM8, it's dead; bury it. >> >>Now, if you type a ", you get a ", the straight one. >>If you want the curly one, type Ctrl-q Shift-R for >>the left one, or Ctrl-q Shift-S for the right. There >>are other ways, but that's the fastest and simplest >>method. The pre-8 method of Ctrl-Alt-` and Ctrl-Alt-' >>does *not* work; it gives you single quotes in FM8. >> >>For single quotes, it's simpler. Type a `, and get a >>left curly single quote; type a ', and get a right. >>Ctrl-q Shift-T and Ctrl-q Shift-U also work, if you >>are using a non-English keyboard. If you want the >>actual straight character versions, you have to use >>Ctrl-` and Ctrl-'. That's the same as in FM7. > > For the record, I'm still using 8.0p273, because of the reported > issues with p277 when it came out (posted on Framers). That may > make a difference. > > HTH! > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. >http://www.omsys.com/ > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:22:34 -0500, Joel wrote: >That didn't work either. My .ini file already was configured in the >way that you wanted me to configure it. Is there possibly another .ini >file that Frame is reading from? The second maker.ini is at: C:\Documents and Settings\yourloginname\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\8.0 But on my system, while it has a [Spelling] section, that section does *not* contain any SmartQuotes setting. >Is there a setting in the menus that I can tweak? Thanks, The other option is to turn smart quotes off, and use keyboard sequences to enter the quotes you want. But it's a PITA... Here's what I posted about that back in October, before finding that maker.ini setting: >What you need to do is, first, turn off Smart Quotes; >in Format > Document > Text Options... uncheck the box >at the top left and Apply. In FM8, it's dead; bury it. > >Now, if you type a ", you get a ", the straight one. >If you want the curly one, type Ctrl-q Shift-R for >the left one, or Ctrl-q Shift-S for the right. There >are other ways, but that's the fastest and simplest >method. The pre-8 method of Ctrl-Alt-` and Ctrl-Alt-' >does *not* work; it gives you single quotes in FM8. > >For single quotes, it's simpler. Type a `, and get a >left curly single quote; type a ', and get a right. >Ctrl-q Shift-T and Ctrl-q Shift-U also work, if you >are using a non-English keyboard. If you want the >actual straight character versions, you have to use >Ctrl-` and Ctrl-'. That's the same as in FM7. For the record, I'm still using 8.0p273, because of the reported issues with p277 when it came out (posted on Framers). That may make a difference. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
Also, FYI, I tried copying and pasting an apostrophe from Word into Frame using Paste Special > Text and that worked just fine. Joel On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:43:45 -0500, Joel wrote: > >>I am using Frame 8 on Windows XP. In the past week I've noticed that >>I'm unable to type apostrophes or quotation marks. All I get when I >>type that character is a question mark where the apostrophe should be. >>I've tried different fonts to no avail. Any idea what could be causing >>this? > > Yes. With Frame not running, open your maker.ini, the one > in the main FrameMaker directory, in a text editor. Find > the [Spelling] section, and at the end of it is SmartQuotes: > > SmartQuotes=''"" > > which shows the actual quote characters. Change it to: > > SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 > > which uses their numeric codes; this is actually specified > in the file, in a comment above that line that has the codes > for several different languages. Save and close maker.ini, > open FrameMaker, and enjoy. > > I had the same problem, and that solved it for me. > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. >http://www.omsys.com/ > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
That didn't work either. My .ini file already was configured in the way that you wanted me to configure it. Is there possibly another .ini file that Frame is reading from? Is there a setting in the menus that I can tweak? Thanks, Joel On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:43:45 -0500, Joel wrote: > >>I am using Frame 8 on Windows XP. In the past week I've noticed that >>I'm unable to type apostrophes or quotation marks. All I get when I >>type that character is a question mark where the apostrophe should be. >>I've tried different fonts to no avail. Any idea what could be causing >>this? > > Yes. With Frame not running, open your maker.ini, the one > in the main FrameMaker directory, in a text editor. Find > the [Spelling] section, and at the end of it is SmartQuotes: > > SmartQuotes=''"" > > which shows the actual quote characters. Change it to: > > SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 > > which uses their numeric codes; this is actually specified > in the file, in a comment above that line that has the codes > for several different languages. Save and close maker.ini, > open FrameMaker, and enjoy. > > I had the same problem, and that solved it for me. > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. >http://www.omsys.com/ > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:43:45 -0500, Joel wrote: >I am using Frame 8 on Windows XP. In the past week I've noticed that >I'm unable to type apostrophes or quotation marks. All I get when I >type that character is a question mark where the apostrophe should be. >I've tried different fonts to no avail. Any idea what could be causing >this? Yes. With Frame not running, open your maker.ini, the one in the main FrameMaker directory, in a text editor. Find the [Spelling] section, and at the end of it is SmartQuotes: SmartQuotes= which shows the actual quote characters. Change it to: SmartQuotes=\xd4\xd5\xd2\xd3 which uses their numeric codes; this is actually specified in the file, in a comment above that line that has the codes for several different languages. Save and close maker.ini, open FrameMaker, and enjoy. I had the same problem, and that solved it for me. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
Yes, my default printer is Adobe PDF. Joel On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Is your default printer set to an Adobe PDF printer? > > It sounds as if you're using a hardware-specific font that uses a > character that FM can't display. Using the fonts available to the PDF > engine limits the selection to those that are actually installed on > your system... > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Joel wrote: >> I am using Frame 8 on Windows XP. In the past week I've noticed that >> I'm unable to type apostrophes or quotation marks. All I get when I >> type that character is a question mark where the apostrophe should be. >> I've tried different fonts to no avail. Any idea what could be causing >> this? >> >> Joel >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 Apostrophe Problem
Is your default printer set to an Adobe PDF printer? It sounds as if you're using a hardware-specific font that uses a character that FM can't display. Using the fonts available to the PDF engine limits the selection to those that are actually installed on your system... Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Joel wrote: > I am using Frame 8 on Windows XP. In the past week I've noticed that > I'm unable to type apostrophes or quotation marks. All I get when I > type that character is a question mark where the apostrophe should be. > I've tried different fonts to no avail. Any idea what could be causing > this? > > Joel > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
