Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
We've been on Frame 8 for nearly a year now and it's very stable in our environment (Win XP and 2000). In fact, I can't really remember any crashes or lock-ups. Cheers Dave Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote, on 12/03/2009 10:56 p.m.: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see > action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dave.reynolds%40tait.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dave Reynolds Phone: (64) (3) 358 1029 Senior Technical Author Fax: (64) (3) 359 4632 Tait Electronics Ltd Email: dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. === ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
Verner, If I was going to pick one thing to play with to see I could change the crash behaviour, it would be the text insets inside tables on master pages. That's the only thing that strikes me as possibly hard to process in your set up from the info you provided. I haven't used insets in tables myself, even in body pages. Unless you've turned updates Off on those insets, I think they'd be constantly trying to update themselves, possibly whenever a new body page is generated from them or they're otherwise referenced by the program. And because the insets are likely to be on a network location, there's an additional possibility of a network delay or timeout interrupting the process. Updating masters may also be the problem when you force an override to the layout by changing text container properties. To play with that idea a little bit, you might try making a copy of your working files and converting the text insets to text, so no updating is required. Then work with that copy a bit to see what happens. Just a thought. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Fair enough > I include my system details below. > > I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the > rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. > In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables > on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body > pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" > > My system settings: > > Windows xp sp 3 > FM8.0p277 > 2 GB ram > 756 MB virtual memory > Acrobat Profession 7.2 > Files on server > Graphics are .png imported by reference > Lots of text insets used by several books > > Best regards, > > Verner > > > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Åkandevej 21 > 2700 Brønshøj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] > Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 > To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again > > On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is > also fine. > > Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or > more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. > > If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, > temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of > graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual > suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > wrote: >> I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June >> last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. >> >> It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot >> see action that should cause the crash. >> >> Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? >> >> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards >> Verner Andersen >> Technical Writer >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Phone +45 3827 3612 >> Fax +45 3827 2727 >> verner.ander...@radiometer.dk >> >> >> >> >> Radiometer Medical ApS >> Akandevej 21 >> 2700 Bronshoj >> Denmark >> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 >> CVR: 27 50 91 85 >> >> >> >> Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or >> re-transmit this email. If you have received t
RE: FM 8 crashes again and again
Fair enough I include my system details below. I suspect that my problem has to do with the Framemaker source files as the rest is unchanged from FM version 7.2 apart from my Windows Service pack 3. In particular Fm crashes when encountering files with text insets in tables on master pages or sometimes when I change the object properties on body pages and remove the "room for sidehad setting" My system settings: Windows xp sp 3 FM8.0p277 2 GB ram 756 MB virtual memory Acrobat Profession 7.2 Files on server Graphics are .png imported by reference Lots of text insets used by several books Best regards, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS Åkandevej 21 2700 Brønshøj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: 12. marts 2009 12:19 To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 8 crashes again and again On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot > see action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reprodu
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
On my systems, 8 is more stable than 7 was, especially on book actions. 9 is also fine. Given others' experiences, I'd guess that your problems are caused by one or more things in your environment, but you didn't provide any details. If you provide some details on your system (FM and Acrobat versions, OS, RAM, temp space) and your environment (files local or on a server, type of graphics and imported by reference or copied, and so on) I'm sure the usual suspects would be happy to generate some things to look at. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > I just counted. My Framemaker 8 crashed more than 80 times since June > last year. Framemaker 7 was so stable and robust. > > It happens when I update the book, generate pdfs and often I cannot see > action that should cause the crash. > > Do you experience the same? Is FM 9 more stable? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.ander...@radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 crashes again and again
Hi Verner, I didn't count, but I have the same experience. Indeed, FM7 was A LOT more stable and robust. I haven't really put FM 9 to the test for production work yet. I assume the Adobe folks are also monitoring this list, let's hope they've "listened" to the users. FrameMaker has always been renowned for its stability. I hope it will stay that way. Cheers Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.