Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-06 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
All the pages were EPS'd from PDF according to the old Gospel. ;-)
I will, when I get the time again, try the PDF approach, as so many
have suggested and I have successfully done in many other (more
recently prepared) manuals. At least I have not had any problems with
such pdfs to speak of.

Again, thanks to all that helped or tried to. This list is really something. :-)

Bodvar

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You say all those EPSs are pages from PDF documents. Have you tried
 importing them directly as PDF images? I'm thinking that perhaps the
 raster preview images that are required for the EPSs might be clogging
 your available memory. Importing PDFs directly eliminates the need for
 the bulky preview images because the PDF can be directly rendered
 on-screen.

 -FR

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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-05 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Bummer!
To day is another day. :-(

Now it crashes again and on the same exact spot. I finally tried to
remove Chapter 3 from the book. This way the book printed OK to ps.
Then I printed Chapter 3 separately (also with bookmarks) and inserted
that into the distilled pdf from the book, moved the bookmarks to the
right place and everything works fine apart from the links in the ToC
to Chapter 3 which think that there must be some different file to
look for. I can live with that in this case.

This leads me to think that Chapter 3 maybe takes up too much
resources or memory. It includes some 6 tifs and 15 eps graphics
(referenced) which are in fact mostly full pages from pdf documents.

Can anyone comment on how XP SP2 memory or resources deal with EPSs in FM?

Bodvar

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Art,

 I am utterly flabbergasted! This worked. Thanks.

 In the early times of FM7.2 and/or Acrobat6 or 7 (IIRC), crashes were
 bound to happen if the Generate Tagged PDF was not set.
 And now Dov tells us that another must has to be the other way
 around. I am referring to the language level setting in EPS made from
 AI.

 This is a weird day.
 I hope this will stick for some time. I would hate to wake up
 tomorrow, finding out that the things that worked today will not or
 that there is something else that I have been doing right for years
 must be done the other way around. :-(

 It is time for my tea as the Englishmen say, so I am going home now.

 Thanks to everyone that helped -- or tried to.

 One final word to Adobe: Please make effort to make FM stable in
 handling all sorts of situation. I am really getting tired of the all
 to frequent surprises.

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try toggling the Generate Tagged PDF setting for the book
 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Yes

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I tried this now and same results.

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 No, I had not tried that yet.
 One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
 open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

 Thanks,

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec

Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Art Campbell
OK,
It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
without opening any unnecessary applications?

***
What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

Art

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when
 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the
 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of
 graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

-- 
Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thanks Art,

I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
file, so no problem there.
About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed
a book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed
one offending graphic.

Bodvar


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when
 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the
 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot of
 graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




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 -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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RE: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)
Bodvar,
Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
distills successfully?
I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

Thanks Art,

I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
file, so no problem there.
About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
offending graphic.

Bodvar


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the 
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling 
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you 
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always 
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps 
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the 
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot 
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a 
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




-- 
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
ingenious.
 -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Art Campbell
It may also be worth trying to saveimport the Illustrator EPS as an
AI or PDF...

Art

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




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 ingenious.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
No, I had not tried that yet.
One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

Thanks,

Bodvar

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I tried this now and same results.

Bodvar

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I had not tried that yet.
 One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
 open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

 Thanks,

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




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 ingenious.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Art Campbell
Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself?

Art

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried this now and same results.

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I had not tried that yet.
 One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
 open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

 Thanks,

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Yes

Bodvar

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I tried this now and same results.

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 No, I had not tried that yet.
 One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
 open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

 Thanks,

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




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 -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
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Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

2008-06-04 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Art,

I am utterly flabbergasted! This worked. Thanks.

In the early times of FM7.2 and/or Acrobat6 or 7 (IIRC), crashes were
bound to happen if the Generate Tagged PDF was not set.
And now Dov tells us that another must has to be the other way
around. I am referring to the language level setting in EPS made from
AI.

This is a weird day.
I hope this will stick for some time. I would hate to wake up
tomorrow, finding out that the things that worked today will not or
that there is something else that I have been doing right for years
must be done the other way around. :-(

It is time for my tea as the Englishmen say, so I am going home now.

Thanks to everyone that helped -- or tried to.

One final word to Adobe: Please make effort to make FM stable in
handling all sorts of situation. I am really getting tired of the all
to frequent surprises.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Air Atlanta Icelandic

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try toggling the Generate Tagged PDF setting for the book
 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you print Chapter 4 to PDF by itself?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I tried this now and same results.

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 No, I had not tried that yet.
 One funny thing. When processing the files with all book components
 open, I get recovery files of all files except Chapter 4.

 Thanks,

 Bodvar

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bodvar,
 Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
 distills successfully?
 I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
 it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

 Berny Gagne
 Lead Writer
 Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
 Bolton, Ontario, Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
 Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: Frame Users
 Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

 Thanks Art,

 I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
 file, so no problem there.
 About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
 running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
 applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
 book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
 offending graphic.

 Bodvar


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
 format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

 --
 Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358




 --
 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
 ingenious.
  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
 ___


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 It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so 
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